On November 04 2011 16:48 nam nam wrote: Now you know how the music industry feels.
They charge $1.69 for music that costs 0c to reproduce. I have no regrets pirating music.
I do buy the music i enjoy, though.
Uhm, it cost money to make music. I can bet you that the music industry loses more on piracy than TL does on Adblock. That was my point, not that the music companies are bastards.
On November 04 2011 16:25 Macpo wrote: I do block ads on teamliquid. It's a matter of principle, against advertisment in general. Why? 2 reasons.
1. it is a a very unproductive activity for society, in which yet a lot of money, time, and energy is thrown (away). How many people work to make ads? and for what purpose? Wouldn't all this be better used somewhere else?
2. the content of ads is generally not a celebration of the intelligence of man. Quite the contrary.
I am definitely willing subscribe to teamliquid, like paying a monthly fee; sure they deserve it. I do that for other websites, like news sites. I suggest that TL organizes this (if you are a subscriber, we suppress ads for you). But no ads sorry
It's depressing to read the shit people come up with to justify blocking ads.
Its not a justification, or a random idea. Ads pollute society, I walk outside and my eyes are constantly polluted by ads, i go on the internet, constant visual pollution of ads. I really can't blame people for not wanting the constant visual assault of shitty ads. I don't ad block, but I really have no problem with people who do. Ads are the product of this shitty society and I can't blame people for not wanting to see it.
I don't run adblock, but the ads are eaten by noscript. I allow TL's scripts, but I have sites like quantserve and googlesyndication blocked since they are responsible for a myriad of ads on other sites I visit, so I get the elephant, unfortunately.
On November 04 2011 14:56 Fyodor wrote: It's infinitesimal fractions of cents and they don't even matter if they're brought together.
If that was the case, then we wouldn't have ads at all. Since they wouldn't matter. But it is alright man. The 15 minutes it would take you, a popular website designer, to figure out how to allow an exception is far too great a cost compared to what you get from this website. In fact I think that you could philosophically extend this to all facets life. Help an old lady across the street? 3 minutes of time. But she probably would have made it any way, so it isn't worth it.
"If that was the case, then we wouldn't have ads at all. Since they wouldn't matter."
Would matter for Nazgul(?)'s bottom line. For most people involved, the TL ads don't mean anything. There's a hundred message board owners who love to get more traffic. (NOT dissing TL's ability run a forum, it's a top notch organization. I post here for a reason.) There is so little moral substance in activating or deactivating the adblock.
I can only imagine the most timid and wildly considerate or fanatic individual would actually add an exception to a specific website on moral grounds. (Now that it's a hot topic it's more likely to happen)
"In fact I think that you could philosophically extend this to all facets life."
Fair, as a thought exercise. I am not explaining my personal moral process here.
"Help an old lady across the street? 3 minutes of time. But she probably would have made it any way, so it isn't worth it."
I'm just going to say your valuation here is a little strange but if this is your assault on Utilitarianism... well I'm unimpressed.
On November 04 2011 16:25 Macpo wrote: I do block ads on teamliquid. It's a matter of principle, against advertisment in general. Why? 2 reasons.
1. it is a a very unproductive activity for society, in which yet a lot of money, time, and energy is thrown (away). How many people work to make ads? and for what purpose? Wouldn't all this be better used somewhere else?
2. the content of ads is generally not a celebration of the intelligence of man. Quite the contrary.
I am definitely willing subscribe to teamliquid, like paying a monthly fee; sure they deserve it. I do that for other websites, like news sites. I suggest that TL organizes this (if you are a subscriber, we suppress ads for you). But no ads sorry
It's depressing to read the shit people come up with to justify blocking ads.
No need to be so rude when people don't agree with you
(Man, you are an admin! at least, please respect the rules you ask others to respect, even if you disagree with posted content).
It isn't against the rules to call something shit, when it is indeed shit.
Well I won't come down to such a level of discussion, but I have to say it makes me a bit wondering about TL to know that mods are actually acting like this. Having said that, I don't see why making a subscription fee wouldn't be a respectable option to consider; I have seen many websites proposing this "ads vs fee" exchange, and it seemed to work for them. You should even make more money, which seems to be your goal here; as this fee would be nothing but an extra option.
You really need to read the 10 commandments to put the mods behavior in perspective. Their house, they are not gonna kick themselves out for being rude. You come to their house and be rude, then you arent welcome. Something like that.
Are you suggesting that it is ok for mods to be rude to standard posters? Interesting perspective... I don't know, when I invite people home, I don't do that personnally. Remember that admins wouldn't be much without people coming to their website.
But I don't want to make this a big problem! I just found Nazgul behavior inadequate here (as most people would), especially the fact that he allows this because of his status and is defended by other mods. But I assume he probably didn't mean to be absolutely rude and nasty, he just overreacted to something he didn't like (as it happens to everybody) and I can understand that. Just a bit more education wouldn't hurt though.
On November 04 2011 16:25 Macpo wrote: I do block ads on teamliquid. It's a matter of principle, against advertisment in general. Why? 2 reasons.
1. it is a a very unproductive activity for society, in which yet a lot of money, time, and energy is thrown (away). How many people work to make ads? and for what purpose? Wouldn't all this be better used somewhere else?
2. the content of ads is generally not a celebration of the intelligence of man. Quite the contrary.
I am definitely willing subscribe to teamliquid, like paying a monthly fee; sure they deserve it. I do that for other websites, like news sites. I suggest that TL organizes this (if you are a subscriber, we suppress ads for you). But no ads sorry
It's depressing to read the shit people come up with to justify blocking ads.
Has anyone ever been to some sites like mangafox.com... that site is full of viruses and such if one went there without adblock/no script
On November 04 2011 16:25 Macpo wrote: I do block ads on teamliquid. It's a matter of principle, against advertisment in general. Why? 2 reasons.
1. it is a a very unproductive activity for society, in which yet a lot of money, time, and energy is thrown (away). How many people work to make ads? and for what purpose? Wouldn't all this be better used somewhere else?
2. the content of ads is generally not a celebration of the intelligence of man. Quite the contrary.
I am definitely willing subscribe to teamliquid, like paying a monthly fee; sure they deserve it. I do that for other websites, like news sites. I suggest that TL organizes this (if you are a subscriber, we suppress ads for you). But no ads sorry
It's depressing to read the shit people come up with to justify blocking ads.
Has anyone ever been to some sites like mangafox.com... that site is full of viruses and such if one went there without adblock/no script
well that is a website that lets you read mangas for free without paying for the authors hard work...
naturally it is going to be a sketchy site... it is not really a valid argument to mention that. It is like me saying i need to adblock a torrent site
On November 04 2011 16:25 Macpo wrote: I do block ads on teamliquid. It's a matter of principle, against advertisment in general. Why? 2 reasons.
1. it is a a very unproductive activity for society, in which yet a lot of money, time, and energy is thrown (away). How many people work to make ads? and for what purpose? Wouldn't all this be better used somewhere else?
2. the content of ads is generally not a celebration of the intelligence of man. Quite the contrary.
I am definitely willing subscribe to teamliquid, like paying a monthly fee; sure they deserve it. I do that for other websites, like news sites. I suggest that TL organizes this (if you are a subscriber, we suppress ads for you). But no ads sorry
It's depressing to read the shit people come up with to justify blocking ads.
No need to be so rude when people don't agree with you
(Man, you are an admin! at least, please respect the rules you ask others to respect, even if you disagree with posted content).
It isn't against the rules to call something shit, when it is indeed shit.
Well I won't come down to such a level of discussion, but I have to say it makes me a bit wondering about TL to know that mods are actually acting like this. Having said that, I don't see why making a subscription fee wouldn't be a respectable option to consider; I have seen many websites proposing this "ads vs fee" exchange, and it seemed to work for them. You should even make more money, which seems to be your goal here; as this fee would be nothing but an extra option.
You really need to read the 10 commandments to put the mods behavior in perspective. Their house, they are not gonna kick themselves out for being rude. You come to their house and be rude, then you arent welcome. Something like that.
Are you suggesting that it is ok for mods to be rude to standard posters? Interesting perspective... I don't know, when I invite people home, I don't do that personnally.
The people that come to my house don't hang towels over the paintings they deem "not a celebration of the intelligence of man".
On November 04 2011 16:25 Macpo wrote: I do block ads on teamliquid. It's a matter of principle, against advertisment in general. Why? 2 reasons.
1. it is a a very unproductive activity for society, in which yet a lot of money, time, and energy is thrown (away). How many people work to make ads? and for what purpose? Wouldn't all this be better used somewhere else?
2. the content of ads is generally not a celebration of the intelligence of man. Quite the contrary.
I am definitely willing subscribe to teamliquid, like paying a monthly fee; sure they deserve it. I do that for other websites, like news sites. I suggest that TL organizes this (if you are a subscriber, we suppress ads for you). But no ads sorry
It's depressing to read the shit people come up with to justify blocking ads.
Wow dude. You can't just appeal to people's motives when discussing philosophy. If their reasoning is bad then start from there, no need to flame him as morally bankrupt person. (There's also an argument from depression in there but I've seen worse things happen on here)
On November 04 2011 16:25 Macpo wrote: I do block ads on teamliquid. It's a matter of principle, against advertisment in general. Why? 2 reasons.
1. it is a a very unproductive activity for society, in which yet a lot of money, time, and energy is thrown (away). How many people work to make ads? and for what purpose? Wouldn't all this be better used somewhere else?
2. the content of ads is generally not a celebration of the intelligence of man. Quite the contrary.
I am definitely willing subscribe to teamliquid, like paying a monthly fee; sure they deserve it. I do that for other websites, like news sites. I suggest that TL organizes this (if you are a subscriber, we suppress ads for you). But no ads sorry
On November 04 2011 16:25 Macpo wrote: I do block ads on teamliquid. It's a matter of principle, against advertisment in general. Why? 2 reasons.
1. it is a a very unproductive activity for society, in which yet a lot of money, time, and energy is thrown (away). How many people work to make ads? and for what purpose? Wouldn't all this be better used somewhere else?
2. the content of ads is generally not a celebration of the intelligence of man. Quite the contrary.
I am definitely willing subscribe to teamliquid, like paying a monthly fee; sure they deserve it. I do that for other websites, like news sites. I suggest that TL organizes this (if you are a subscriber, we suppress ads for you). But no ads sorry
LOL
It takes a lot for the response of a quality poster star user to just respond "LOL"
On November 04 2011 16:25 Macpo wrote: I do block ads on teamliquid. It's a matter of principle, against advertisment in general. Why? 2 reasons.
1. it is a a very unproductive activity for society, in which yet a lot of money, time, and energy is thrown (away). How many people work to make ads? and for what purpose? Wouldn't all this be better used somewhere else?
2. the content of ads is generally not a celebration of the intelligence of man. Quite the contrary.
I am definitely willing subscribe to teamliquid, like paying a monthly fee; sure they deserve it. I do that for other websites, like news sites. I suggest that TL organizes this (if you are a subscriber, we suppress ads for you). But no ads sorry
It's depressing to read the shit people come up with to justify blocking ads.
No need to be so rude when people don't agree with you
(Man, you are an admin! at least, please respect the rules you ask others to respect, even if you disagree with posted content).
It isn't against the rules to call something shit, when it is indeed shit.
Well I won't come down to such a level of discussion, but I have to say it makes me a bit wondering about TL to know that mods are actually acting like this. Having said that, I don't see why making a subscription fee wouldn't be a respectable option to consider; I have seen many websites proposing this "ads vs fee" exchange, and it seemed to work for them. You should even make more money, which seems to be your goal here; as this fee would be nothing but an extra option.
You really need to read the 10 commandments to put the mods behavior in perspective. Their house, they are not gonna kick themselves out for being rude. You come to their house and be rude, then you arent welcome. Something like that.
Are you suggesting that it is ok for mods to be rude to standard posters? Interesting perspective... I don't know, when I invite people home, I don't do that personnally.
The people that come to my house don't hang towels over the paintings they deem "not a celebration of the intelligence of man".
Oh I wish ads were paintings So when I pay my first subscription fee to TL (once you will have set up a subscription service), can you put some Michelangelo or Fra Angelico in the banner for me? That would be lovely.
What I wonder is why we're able to ad-block those ad-banners in the first place. I've been to plenty of websites with banners that don't get ad-blocked. Why can't TL just use that style of ad?
Noscript does the adblocking for me and it's not possible to specify that remote scripts called by a certain site to be allowed. Or at least I haven't found a way to do so. I'm really sorry
Boggles my mind to see how many don't get the humor in the >>>casplock<<< ESPORTS thing. You need to do the flying monkey thing on this thread, only with sunglas hotbid and ESPORTS dollars.
I don't use adblock, but instead block a whole slew of ad serving domains in my hosts file. So I get to see sad Elly, but can't do much about it. If the ads were served from TL's servers it wouldn't be a problem.
I do if I am not a huge fan of a player etc, if I still keep watching the same stream for 1-2hours I've probably turned it back on. Also major events, adblock is always on for me.
in the last few days i considered to enable adblocking again for TL because these stupid dating banners annoy me. i don't want to see "finest asian girls", muslima or blacks. or anything else when i click on a thread where koreans are mentioned. i'm missing tech ads or stuff that i would consider to buy.
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