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Both of these parents should lose their daughter. Seriously.
I know it's not fun as the child to get taken away - but this is beyond sickening. How is the dad not in prison?
Sure, your children needs to learn what disciplin is - but spanking her? And not even that... Really beating her up with a sick belt. And he's not in anyway holding back. This is... Awww... I feel sooo bad for this family... Anything released from the family as a response to this? Would love to hear something from the daughter
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That guy should go to jail for this. This is abuse. And it should be punished. Belting and corporal punishments are only acceptable between consenting adults. Else it should be prohibited.
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On November 02 2011 20:04 B.I.G. wrote: Oh wow, so the mother is actually gonna get out of this using the "I was abused too" card? That's fucking weak. She's just as bad or maybe even worse for standing there watching and sometimes even helping when her husband is beating the shit out of her daughter. I wish them both the worst.
Eh, I've seen this too (from my own mother). Speaking from experience, the girls mother in the video was most likely trying to prevent the dad from hitting her without invoking his fury upon herself. That's why she tried to do the whole "I'm gonna give you one the right way" thing. She probably thought that if her daughter cooperated it would make the father stop beating her further. It never actually works, but it's the only way to really get through that sort of situation without further endangering anyone.
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On November 02 2011 20:04 B.I.G. wrote: Oh wow, so the mother is actually gonna get out of this using the "I was abused too" card? That's fucking weak. She's just as bad or maybe even worse for standing there watching and sometimes even helping when her husband is beating the shit out of her daughter. I wish them both the worst.
Don't be too hard on her, it's a real problem. Some wives live in fear for years, being abused but afraid to leave their husband, for many reasons including: severe emotional attachment, fear of losing financial stability, fear of what will happen to the child. She did leave him eventually, so it's obvious she knew something was wrong.
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Anyone in America having the balls to pay this guy a visit? I imagine someone is willing. Wouldn't be surprised if we hear something about it next week.
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Parents have the right to spank their kids and especially on the butt because that's the place you don't cause damage, just pain. But this is obviously severe and in no way is it beneficial to correcting the problem. All it does it makes the girl hate her family and feel insecure.
I mean I understand two or three swipes on the but and it sometimes actually leads to a better behavior, I mean certainly if all you do is spoil your kid he/she is going to become a first class asshole that no one can stand in the future, so kids need to be spanked sometimes, but the spanks have to resemble the disobedience, like playing a game on the computer is not bad. I mean I can understand if she got few spanks if she played like 10 hours a day computer games every day, but I also feel there are better ways to parent your children.
I mean you need to be more proactive in your kids life and use examples to teach them how something could be wrong for them, etc...
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On November 02 2011 20:08 ryanAnger wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 20:04 B.I.G. wrote: Oh wow, so the mother is actually gonna get out of this using the "I was abused too" card? That's fucking weak. She's just as bad or maybe even worse for standing there watching and sometimes even helping when her husband is beating the shit out of her daughter. I wish them both the worst. Eh, I've seen this too (from my own mother). Speaking from experience, the girls mother in the video was most likely trying to prevent the dad from hitting her without invoking his fury upon herself. That's why she tried to do the whole "I'm gonna give you one the right way" thing. She probably thought that if her daughter cooperated it would make the father stop beating her further. It never actually works, but it's the only way to really get through that sort of situation without further endangering anyone.
Pretty much dead on, the woman in the video looked to me like she was trying to prevent it without getting beat herself, and there are so many examples of this. They live in so much fear they wont reveal it to anyone. Dont be harsh on her, unless its a lie.
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This is such theorycrafting at this point and the sensationalist title doesn't help. We have no idea what goes on inside that home, except that the beatings must stop
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On November 02 2011 19:22 Ahelvin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 19:22 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 19:16 Capped wrote:On November 02 2011 19:11 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 19:08 Capped wrote:On November 02 2011 19:02 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:57 Ahelvin wrote:On November 02 2011 18:55 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:53 prplhz wrote:On November 02 2011 18:50 pandaBee wrote: [quote]
and how would the stern lecturing / 50 seconds of booty spanking cause her mental trauma? did you watch the video? she's clearly in a very stressful situation and apparently she hasn't dropped it for 7 years. this has scarred her for life and i doubt she's just acting up because she's a drama queen. i imagine she genuinely did not like having a grown man slap her repeatedly with a belt while she was screaming for mercy. imo she is just a drama queen why in the world did she not report this earlier she had hard evidence so she could have help she was 16 then if she was afraid for her life she could have waited 2 years and then done it but no she waited for 7. Why seven? probably to use her parents and then drop this F-bomb when she's secure and comfortable so she can watch u all argue for her while cracking open the popcorn. Profit. Either you're a troll or you have no clue. I really wish you could talk someday with a girl that has been physically abused (YES, this is physical abuse when your father is screaming GET ON YOUR KNEES while spanking you with a belt) so she could tell you how this kind of thing can impair your ability to live an happy life. i have talked with many girls in that situation yeah but unlike this one they've all moved on to become good adults Without betraying her parents in this fashion. some of them went through therapy some of them didn't. some of them grew up a little warped some of them didn't. but in the end they're living fine lives. any form of physical discipline is obviously done by someone stronger otherwise they wouldnt be carry it out. so for anyone that keeps saying "oh yeah he's bigger and stronger so this is wrong!" well when my mom beat my ass when i was four or five she was also bigger and stronger what do u have to say about that? i can generailze this for anyones mom it doesn't necessarily have to be a man what uhave a problem with is the actual spanking not the fact that the guy is stronger. obviously he's stronger that doesn't realy add anything to your point since if this was done by someone younger and smaller and weaker it wouldnt be discipline it would be a joke. i'm not trying to pin all the blame on the girl or anything. but i don't like how everyone is bashing on the father either. neither of these is the right way to view this event. You are so fucking far wrong, this is NOT acceptable and completely disgusting. Punishing a child with beats is not entirely wrong, slaps to the ass etc. BUT THIS IS ABUSE, PLAIN AND SIMPLE PHYSICAL ABUSE. Fucking betrayed her parents? Theres a death penalty in your country isnt there? lets use it. Whoever condones this is fucking sick and twisted and it makes me so angry im not going to come back to this thread. im not condoning abuse in any way. but then again im not condoning people who aren't parents criticizing people who actually Are parents and have to make these decisions - whether they seem good or bad - on a daily basis. do u think parents like to resort to physical disciplining? ofc u can argue that it is not necessary but depending on what culture u are from and who u are it is a part of growing up. clearly the man says that it was a last resort and that she had c rossed the line several times for it to have come to this. You are fucking condoning it, you are defending his actions. I work with kids day in day out and i see the effects of what this bullshit does. So dont fuck me around and say i have no actual "view" on the situation. I have already explained all my views on physical punishment and how far over the line this shit is, a whip is a weapon, being used on a child. You are scum, worse then shit and you are probably this way because you suffered the same or worse then this girl did, much like the others sound who defend his actions in this thread. I cant fucking believe humanity right now, sick twisted fuck. ignorant people ignorant conclusions. calling me bad names won't change my opinions you are only hurting your own cause friend. if you're trying to convince me that is  Read what I just said and answer it. Until then, you are an ignorant troll.
Yeah this guy is nothing but a troll, there are plenty of more effective ways to deal with "children" though a 16 year old is well on the way to not being one anymore.. and there is a huge difference between that video and a "spanking" in my eyes.. spanking for me would be at most a quick slap on the ass of a child, at most!! hard enough to be felt, but no where near any real pain.. for a young mind to know that whatever was done.. was very bad.. I can remember i was spanked (my version of it) followed by a pointing finger and "dont you do that again" in a stern voice.. that i can understand, at least for that generation.. psychology have gotten far enough for us to know better ways to deal with children
that video was on the verge of fucking torture over some computer bullshit? piracy was it? dunno.. but sounded pretty trivial from the video "install more computer games?!" ...
If he actually didn't break any law and cant be tossed in jail with a lonely guy named bubba as a cell mate, i realy hope the internet destroys him in other ways...
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jesus fk'in christ, this is fricking scary... I can't imagine how long the girl had been abused for.
kind of reminds me of my own dad when he would hit me (not hard) if he caught me playing games at night, I can still remember sometimes I couldn't stop my body shivering because I was just damn scared @@
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how sickening. Up here it's illegal to hit your child at all.
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"Internet users responded with a wave of support for miss Adams, and a storm of fury directed at judge William Adams. His office telephone has been ringing busy for several hours, Child Protective Services has been informed, the local Sheriff's office has opened a file, men have offered to beat the judge senseless, residents of the local community have been alerted and are already shunning "judge" William Adams. His career and reputation are soon likely to collapse."
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On November 02 2011 20:08 Trizz wrote: Anyone in America having the balls to pay this guy a visit? I imagine someone is willing. Wouldn't be surprised if we hear something about it next week.
You don't solve violence by violence, I think humanity has evolved that enough to know that!
What needs to be done is the father needs to go to jail for abusing his daughter, especially on the fact the punishment was way too severe for the "problem", which in my book isn't even a problem.
I think kids should be spanked and its the parents right, but beating her up is not the same. It was obvious this was way too severe.
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On November 02 2011 20:17 TheBomb wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 20:08 Trizz wrote: Anyone in America having the balls to pay this guy a visit? I imagine someone is willing. Wouldn't be surprised if we hear something about it next week.
You don't solve violence by violence, I think humanity has evolved that enough to know that!
I disagree. Sending this guy to a white collar prison for ~10 years won't do jack other than make him more pissed off at the world. Get rid of him. Saves the country money, and it saves the innocent lives he would no doubt torture after he's released.
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On November 02 2011 20:09 TheBomb wrote: Parents have the right to spank their kids and especially on the butt because that's the place you don't cause damage
because the only kind of damage you can do to a child is physical, right?
Watch the Opie & Anthony clip with Louie CK posted earlier in this thread.. it's so remarkably insightful, I'm almost surprised Louie doesn't have a phd in psychology.
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I'm sorry TL but i'm astounded people advocating corporal punishement aren't perm banned.
this is really bad for this site in my opinion
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A lot of people seem to have missed the fact that this was recorded 7 years ago. The girl is now 24 and posted the video up herself. She is no longer in harms way.
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On November 02 2011 20:22 deconduo wrote: A lot of people seem to have missed the fact that this was recorded 7 years ago. The girl is now 24 and posted the video up herself. She is no longer in harms way. You've pegged me spot on, I didn't read in depth enough to notice that.. I'm very embarrassed  I just wanted to argue the (pretty common here) issue of the validity of corporal punishment (that was a poor sentence..)
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first of all you dont fucking hit a daughter no matter what... nothing can justify it.
For sons, it could be acceptable as long as its within limits. I mean you shouldnt go buck wild on an 8 year old because he stole a dollar from your wallet to go play at the arcade or something. But the most important thing is to make sure they UNDERSTAND why and that you love them. Dont leave them with a fucking grudge or something.
Personally, the few times i got my ass beat as a kid, my dad felt so bad that right afterwards he came with neosporin or something and talked to me about it. I could see that it hurt him more than me. Well.. since i was a immature kid, i would be thinking all sorts of evil shit, but after calming down a bit I could see that it was my fault.
But even for us asians, it will probably stop with our generation. Times are changing and you dont really need to resort to physical punishment to get your point across.
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