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j0k3r
United States577 Posts
On October 27 2011 04:13 relyt wrote: Why is it so important then? Is it just a tradition thing? Tradition plus it is symbolic of wealth and status. Some may believe it has anti-cancer properties as well. Hocus pocus. Basically you eat it for everything except the way it tastes. | ||
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Warlike Prince
371 Posts
I have only eaten it a few times but its good and I would like to have it again sometime the ONLY reason there should be a ban it that the animal is endangered and not "some moral animal rights hocus-pocus" That being said I am a firm believer that most animals will have to go eventually to make room for more people. Just keep a DNA sample of everything and clone them for the zoo edit: On October 27 2011 04:13 ninazerg wrote: I think this is a travesty of legislation that was done for purely political reasons and heads should roll for this. I love eating sharks and anyone who stands in the way of that should be eaten by a shark. i agree that it was done for purely political reasons, if that picture of all those finned sharks was never spread around the web this likely would not have happened People need to start caring about their fellow humans as much as they care about animals that would gladly kill them and gladly kill and eat anything they want all the time | ||
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Kiangani
United States122 Posts
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Enki
United States2548 Posts
And for people who said they have eaten shark fin and liked it, like I said before, the fin itself is tasteless, the flavor all comes from the broth, so why can't you just use noodles? Oh, right, you have to eat as a status of wealth....are you fucking kidding me? To kill an animal that can weigh thousands of pounds and just use the fins is a fucking joke. It's the same shit with rhino horns in Africa. Chinese still believe in this stupid notion of natural medicine, so until they change their mindset, I don't see any changes happening. | ||
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Grettin
42411 Posts
On October 27 2011 04:08 j0k3r wrote: This woman is also clinically insane I might add. Not a good representation of the Chinese community unless you're trying to say everyone would act like a belligerent child if they couldn't have any more shark fin soup. They'll deal with it. Exactly. Retarded video if you ask me.. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On October 27 2011 04:18 Warlike Prince wrote: I think the problem is that everyone thinks that fishers ALWAYS just take the fin and throw the rest back. Just because that happens doesnt mean everyone does it. I have only eaten it a few times but its good and I would like to have it again sometime the ONLY reason there should be a ban it that the animal is endangered and not "some moral animal rights hocus-pocus" That being said I am a firm believer that most animals will have to go eventually to make room for more people. Just keep a DNA sample of everything and clone them for the zoo Pretty sure that killing off sharks isn't going to make more room for people. | ||
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Warlike Prince
371 Posts
I thought the vid was fake? yes it says its a spoof right at the start. shes nto insane shes acting | ||
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LeaD
Canada464 Posts
On October 27 2011 04:18 Warlike Prince wrote: I think the problem is that everyone thinks that fishers ALWAYS just take the fin and throw the rest back. Just because that happens doesnt mean everyone does it. I have only eaten it a few times but its good and I would like to have it again sometime the ONLY reason there should be a ban it that the animal is endangered and not "some moral animal rights hocus-pocus" That being said I am a firm believer that most animals will have to go eventually to make room for more people. Just keep a DNA sample of everything and clone them for the zoo Do you not read any other posts in this thread? The fin adds nothing to the soup, the taste comes from the broth. It's a status symbol. So, do people live in the ocean now? Are sharks taking up that 2/3 of the world that we don't live in? We need to get rid of them! Yes, let's just kill any animal we want, keep the DNA and who knows how long down the road, after the worlds ecosystems are irreparably damaged, we'll be able to clone the animals and put them back! Genius. | ||
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Grumbaki
Belgium141 Posts
On October 27 2011 04:14 hugman wrote: How is it a joke? I don't think breeding animals to eat is unethical as long as you treat them well and kill them in a quick, painless way. I would never buy meat in a store but I buy from people I know personally who breed their own animals on a very small scale. This quasi oxymoron makes it a joke. "it's ok to kill as long as my ability for anthropomorphism isn't hurt". The utilitarian principle is more important to me. Killing for vanity (ivory) is not acceptable. Killing for bogus beliefs (tiger penis, bear bile) isn't acceptable. To feed (well) it is. On October 27 2011 04:27 LeaD wrote: Do you not read any other posts in this thread? The fin adds nothing to the soup, the taste comes from the broth. It's a status symbol. My taste buds > random internet posters. Several bowl on a table, you can taste the fin quality from one bowl to the other. Same broth different fins. | ||
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Warlike Prince
371 Posts
On October 27 2011 04:25 GolemMadness wrote: Pretty sure that killing off sharks isn't going to make more room for people. That was a side note about animals in general, more of an afterthought that prob didnt need to be added. These days people care so much about animals but not about other people, I'm the complete oppisite, | ||
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BeJe77
United States377 Posts
On October 27 2011 03:42 ETisME wrote: well, the thing is that it is a huge traditional dish that asians like, shark fin soup is unbelievably tasty... to be honest, I find slaughter house a lot more unethical than these shark farmers. You guys should really see some videos of slaughter house, Blows Your Mind Well, personally, I really don't see why people are in such an uproar about the "cruel" treatment of sharks just to get their fins, if anything its hypocritical because of the things we do to the animals we farm on land for our consumption. It's nothing different or worse. The big issue here is the eco-system of the ocean. Where as on land we easily replace a slaughtered pig/cow/chicken with their offspring because we actually farm them. On the ocean it's not what we do, we do not replace that shark we take out, we just keep taking it out. The end result is a dwindling population of the sharks, where it has come to the point where they are on the endangered line. Why is it a big problem if we keep hunting sharks? It's a big problem because like we are the top dog on land, the sharks are top dog in the ocean. It is them that keeps other species in check so that their populations don't grow too large and endanger other species. Like a certain poster has pointed out, if you fish out the sharks from one area, the species that the sharks have hunted will have a substantial increase in their population, in turn this species will continue to hunt it's natural pray that has not changed in their numbers. This leads to over fishing/exhausting the food supply of the growing species. Now take this number or example across thousands of different species in the ocean, it would become total devastation of the eco-system. Not only would we lose sharks as a species, but countless other species we hunt for sea-food. It has nothing to do with picking on Chinese and their dishes, it has everything to do with preserving the eco-system and the diversification of the ocean dwelling species. You don't have to outright ban finning but control the quota like they do with whales and other species. If you ban it, the only thing you would do is create an even more lucrative business as the price of shark fin would skyrocket, which would prompt even more people to fish them for their fins. | ||
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Grettin
42411 Posts
On October 27 2011 04:25 Warlike Prince wrote: I thought the vid was fake? yes it says its a spoof right at the start. shes nto insane shes acting Well i fucking hope so. But actually pointing it out with a video like this is idiotic. | ||
FlaShFTW
United States10495 Posts
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repsac
91 Posts
On October 27 2011 04:18 Warlike Prince wrote: I think the problem is that everyone thinks that fishers ALWAYS just take the fin and throw the rest back. Just because that happens doesnt mean everyone does it. I have only eaten it a few times but its good and I would like to have it again sometime the ONLY reason there should be a ban it that the animal is endangered and not "some moral animal rights hocus-pocus" That being said I am a firm believer that most animals will have to go eventually to make room for more people. Just keep a DNA sample of everything and clone them for the zoo edit: i agree that it was done for purely political reasons, if that picture of all those finned sharks was never spread around the web this likely would not have happened People need to start caring about their fellow humans as much as they care about animals that would gladly kill them and gladly kill and eat anything they want all the time what does it matter, removing the fin kills the shark. is your retarded, primitive, and outmoded tradition worth killing sharks so that you and people like you can eat something of negligible nutritional value just so that you can feel better about yourselves? | ||
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DStylistic
Korea (South)4 Posts
The video is a parody of another video where a woman freaks out in a similar fashion for missing her flight. Its in the description of the video and its even annotated in the video. Just thought I'd point that out. | ||
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TheGiftedApe
United States1243 Posts
I am against banning something that is a cultural tradition to any people, but when your tradition endangers the future of a species I think its acceptable. Learn a more efficient way to harvest/farm the sharks and it will be fine, chopping off fins and discarding the rest of the shark is unacceptable. If I was told that I could no longer eat alaskan crab to save the species so that my children/grandchildren, would be able to eat some crab sometime in their life I would. | ||
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Warlike Prince
371 Posts
On October 27 2011 04:27 LeaD wrote: Do you not read any other posts in this thread? The fin adds nothing to the soup, the taste comes from the broth. It's a status symbol. So, do people live in the ocean now? Are sharks taking up that 2/3 of the world that we don't live in? We need to get rid of them! Yes, let's just kill any animal we want, keep the DNA and who knows how long down the road, after the worlds ecosystems are irreparably damaged, we'll be able to clone the animals and put them back! Genius. not put them back ... put them in zoos, eventally there will be no room for animals. Read my other post, thats just my thoughts on animals in general, not necessarily sharks in this situation. Also eventually there will be water based citys because we can only go up and down so far Right now thjere is 7 billion, how long till 70 billion or even 700 billion. How long can we care about what happens to other species before it effects the numbers of our own? | ||
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StyLeD
United States2965 Posts
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Atlas247
Canada318 Posts
To be clear i understand that its a tradition and all. but we can't live in the past ,sooner or later we're gonna run out or it's be illegal. Might as well stop it now right? | ||
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repsac
91 Posts
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