EPTits a terrible waste and putting many species of sharks endangered just for the fins
Opinions on ban of shark fin - Page 25
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MenSol[ZerO]
Canada1134 Posts
its a terrible waste and putting many species of sharks endangered just for the fins | ||
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CCitrus
Canada164 Posts
On October 27 2011 05:12 Childplay wrote: sigh... this is part of tradition, and to all the haters, what if the city you lived in banned turkey? i know thats a bad example, but still I guess I wouldn't eat Turkey. I assume it's being banned for sensible reasons. | ||
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LXR
357 Posts
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Bibdy
United States3481 Posts
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pandaBee
United States251 Posts
the long fishing lines that fishermen cast out overnight end up catching many, MANY other kind of fish otehr than shark, most of which are discarded so it's not just a shark fin for a shark it's a shark fin for a shark + a bunch of other fish that got caught (and died) on the line. not to mention that sharks are becoming endangered because of this ridiculousness this is the problem with hunting animals at the top of their food chains : there's not very many of them so hunting them will cut their numbers down drastically. imagine if lions were the "new delicacy" lions would be gone pretty quickly. | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
Now regardless of the current context, in my opinion banning something is never right, because it does not get rid of the root of any problem. And if people do not want to listen to (my) reason, then who am I to impose my moral framework onto other people? This shark fin banning seems nothing more than a try of some politician to divert from their own problems by pointing at problems involving a minority. Now I cannot speak for Canada, but I know that Europe has problems regarding mass animal farming themselves regarding animal cruelty and most of the people with authority (media, politicians) turn a blind eye on it. | ||
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Achilles306
Canada84 Posts
Second is the barbaric way that the sharks are caught and then having their fins cut off before being thrown back in the ocean. This disgusting industry deserves to die IMO. | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On October 27 2011 05:17 MenSol[ZerO] wrote: imo the fin can only be used if the rest of the shark will also be used its a terrible waste and putting many species of sharks endangered just for the fins I'd be in for shark steaks honestly | ||
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bonifaceviii
Canada2890 Posts
On October 27 2011 05:14 Leopoldshark wrote: There's a difference between eating something for nourishment and killing a whole animal and only eat a small part of it just to show your friends how rich and awesome you are. It's like killing a bear with your bare hands and eating its heart... in soup form! | ||
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Deadeight
United Kingdom1629 Posts
On October 27 2011 05:05 darkcloud8282 wrote: So what's the difference between farming sharks for their fins and farming cows/pigs/fish ? Is it fine if people set up shark farms? Yeah that's fine. Cows/pigs/fish aren't going extinct any time soon. If I understand the situation correctly a lot of the issue is about sustainable fishing. Both shark fishing and standard farming could also be more ethical I think, but ethics is dodgy ground. | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On October 27 2011 05:27 Deadeight wrote: Yeah that's fine. Cows/pigs/fish aren't going extinct any time soon. If I understand the situation correctly a lot of the issue is about sustainable fishing. Both shark fishing and standard farming could also be more ethical I think, but ethics is dodgy ground. Thank you for your idea, I will open a fish farm for shark fins =D, that'll be so sick. | ||
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Praetorial
United States4241 Posts
Fisheries-are not in any way endangered, and are not declining at a significant rate. | ||
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Treemonkeys
United States2082 Posts
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LtCalley
United States244 Posts
On October 26 2011 18:41 T.O.P. wrote: It's an example of the majority infringing on the rights of the minority. The law unfairly targets people of Chinese descent by banning one of their cultural traditions. this happens all the time in democratic republics, i'm just grateful i live in one. i see no problem here. if you don't like the system of government in canada and the united states, no one is forcing anyone to live here. i am no whale hugger or vegetarian, but i personally think it's disgusting that people will waste an entire animal, only cutting off the fins and then throwing it back in the ocean. your "cultural tradition" is nothing short of poaching when you look at it from an animal rights standpoint. american poachers have a "cultural tradition" of killing deer, taking the antlers, and then leaving the deer carcass to rot, much the same way these fishermen are severing the fins of a shark and then wasting the rest of the animal. | ||
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Eilvin
Sweden12 Posts
On October 27 2011 05:38 PraetorialGamer wrote: Sharks-a lot of them are endangered. Fisheries-are not in any way endangered, and are not declining at a significant rate. By fisheries do you mean fish-farms? or do you mean normal fishing? Because most of the fish that we are taking out of the ocean is being heavily overfished. For example the atlantic cod and the blue-finned tuna are now listed as endangered because of heavy overfishing in the latest decades. | ||
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ThePurist
Canada686 Posts
On October 26 2011 18:17 Sasquatch wrote: I have no problem with people wanting to eat shark fin soup, but currently it is being harvested in a completely insane and unsustainable manner. Greed tends to ruin any good thing. For reference, here's a piece Gordon Ramsay did on shark fin harvesting: Some what off topic: Ramsay is a joke who the fuck can universally judge what tastes good or bad? Shark's fin is an acquired taste and he tries it for the first time and says it's not good. He's so full of it now ever since he turned into a "celeb-chef" probably hasn't cooked anything for the longest time. On topic: Banning is just stupid. As many others have said already, they need to work together and find a solution instead of simply closing the issue at hand. Coupled with such high demand and making the goods illegal it's just going to be a black market item. People who really want shit won't stop at a law that is hard to enforce. More social and economic problems will arise from the black market trading within cities. This issue is particularly sensitive with Chinese people because it's pretty much shitting on their culture and saying it's no good. What they need to do is consult and listen to different propositions from experts (Ecologists/Chinese relations experts so on so forth) instead of this mindless domino effect shit they got going now. | ||
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buickskylark
Canada664 Posts
The most frustrating thing about it though is that it seems like the Chinese do not really care. I saw in one interview about a store owner selling shark fin soup for thousands of dollars who said that he doesn't give a shit about the extinction of sharks because he'll be dead by then. I'm not an animal lover by any means but even that sort of mentality pisses of me off so much. | ||
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ThePurist
Canada686 Posts
On October 27 2011 06:01 buickskylark wrote: It would be nice if China banned shark fin soup first but now that there is such a large movement against the delicacy from the West it just looks like racism. I'm not saying that it is, there's definitely an element of animal protectionism but China and most Asian countries have always been criticized by western countries for their cuisine. The most frustrating thing about it though is that it seems like the Chinese do not really care. I saw in one interview about a store owner selling shark fin soup for thousands of dollars who said that he doesn't give a shit about the extinction of sharks because he'll be dead by then. I'm not an animal lover by any means but even that sort of mentality pisses of me off so much. He's uneducated lol don't let stupid people piss you off - people with that kind of mentality have no place in making decisions nor have any influence. He's just doing what he does so he can get paid. | ||
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Fijnkonijn
Netherlands48 Posts
If you really think your culture is worth destroying the world, perhaps you need another culture... | ||
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ThePurist
Canada686 Posts
On October 27 2011 06:07 Fijnkonijn wrote: From what I read so far here it seems like most people are not known with most shark species, they're not all doing that well actually and they're an important part of the ocean. If you really think your culture is worth destroying the world, perhaps you need another culture... It's true that sharks are important and they aren't doing well. However, one sided hard views on another's culture is just pointless in solving the issue and I really wish people wouldn't view it this way. I'm not even Chinese but it's just stupid how people view it as: 1) OMG how can you eat the shark when it's endangered? 2) OMG get off my back I don't hate on you for eating _____ ! ?? | ||
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