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Video description says she's dead, now.
I thought I was pretty jaded, too, but this is the worst thing I've ever seen on the internet..
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On October 18 2011 10:59 TOloseGT wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2011 10:57 Sfydjklm wrote:On October 18 2011 10:55 Slipspace wrote:On October 18 2011 10:36 Blasterion wrote:On October 18 2011 10:35 The KY wrote:On October 18 2011 10:22 Blasterion wrote:On October 18 2011 10:20 HellRoxYa wrote:On October 18 2011 10:11 Blasterion wrote:
We're not saying not to help them, but you gotta be cautious to help people in China, Their lives are not as important as your own. This actually makes no sense at all. Their value compared to your own would only matter if you were to risk anything by assisting them. Say that as you help her and her mother jumps out of the shadows to sue you for helping Anyone who watches a 2 year old girl die because they are afraid of being sued is...well that's a bullshit reason. Like I said, better her dying than my family going hungry from me losing my assets, job, and future Helping isn't bad but think abit about what can happen if you do. Is your family worth that one life? This is god awful, terrible, cowardice logic. First of all, you probably won't get sued. In fact, we see the mother crying in this video. You wouldn't have gotten sued. And 99% of the time you wouldn't get sued. Second of all, you and your family are still alive. Completely selfish and cowardly to assume your own family will starve because of a lawsuit that might not even WIN much less happen in the first place. This disgusts me. I'm sorry but I just don't understand how anyone can react in this manner. it's not logic. There is no logic in split second decisions. You either help or you are a coward. LOL, OK their cowboy. I'd rather be a coward and still be able to provide for my family.
you clearly never been in this kind of situations and have no idea what i'm talking about.
In moment like that you don't have time to think about your family. It's all just your true nature because you act on instincts.
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On October 18 2011 10:48 Sipher wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2011 10:38 Dazer wrote:On October 18 2011 10:36 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
I just realized another fucking problem with that video. Where's the godamn sidewalk? There should be regulations to ensure the presence of sidewalks so you can set easy limits for children, ie stay off the road. There should also be regulations for the vehicles. That thing's as tall as a fucking bus, it had no business .....
Space... there's no space... godamn it. So many issues are interrelated. Welcome to third world society. If you think China is a Third World country then you are very ignorant. By the old technical terms (I hate most 1st, 2nd, and 3rd world labels because it related to back in the Cold War; and they are outdated terms), China would be a 2nd world country because they are Communist. However, to be honest. They have a booming economy, and have such high growth that they are looking like the USA back in the 50's after WW2.
China can't be qualified as 1st 2nd or 3rd world because of simply how vast and how varied each province and each town is from one another. If you go to the big populated urban centers like Beijing or Shanghai or Hong Kong, it's very clearly a 1st world environment. However, the vast majority of China are not that developed and many places aren't even close to being so developed. Something like 50%+ of China is still completely rural and can definitely be qualified as 3rd world.
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On October 18 2011 10:07 JediGamer wrote:
This is probably the most fucked up thing I've ever seen. I will never go to china and I will never trust a chinese born person in my life.
User was warned for this post
Thanks, dawg, for not trusting me...
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On October 18 2011 11:00 Blasterion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2011 10:57 Sfydjklm wrote:On October 18 2011 10:55 Slipspace wrote:On October 18 2011 10:36 Blasterion wrote:On October 18 2011 10:35 The KY wrote:On October 18 2011 10:22 Blasterion wrote:On October 18 2011 10:20 HellRoxYa wrote:On October 18 2011 10:11 Blasterion wrote:
We're not saying not to help them, but you gotta be cautious to help people in China, Their lives are not as important as your own. This actually makes no sense at all. Their value compared to your own would only matter if you were to risk anything by assisting them. Say that as you help her and her mother jumps out of the shadows to sue you for helping Anyone who watches a 2 year old girl die because they are afraid of being sued is...well that's a bullshit reason. Like I said, better her dying than my family going hungry from me losing my assets, job, and future Helping isn't bad but think abit about what can happen if you do. Is your family worth that one life? This is god awful, terrible, cowardice logic. First of all, you probably won't get sued. In fact, we see the mother crying in this video. You wouldn't have gotten sued. And 99% of the time you wouldn't get sued. Second of all, you and your family are still alive. Completely selfish and cowardly to assume your own family will starve because of a lawsuit that might not even WIN much less happen in the first place. This disgusts me. I'm sorry but I just don't understand how anyone can react in this manner. it's not logic. There is no logic in split second decisions. You either help or you are a coward. I may be a coward, but my family will have food on their table
On October 18 2011 10:59 TOloseGT wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2011 10:57 Sfydjklm wrote:On October 18 2011 10:55 Slipspace wrote:On October 18 2011 10:36 Blasterion wrote:On October 18 2011 10:35 The KY wrote:On October 18 2011 10:22 Blasterion wrote:On October 18 2011 10:20 HellRoxYa wrote:On October 18 2011 10:11 Blasterion wrote:
We're not saying not to help them, but you gotta be cautious to help people in China, Their lives are not as important as your own. This actually makes no sense at all. Their value compared to your own would only matter if you were to risk anything by assisting them. Say that as you help her and her mother jumps out of the shadows to sue you for helping Anyone who watches a 2 year old girl die because they are afraid of being sued is...well that's a bullshit reason. Like I said, better her dying than my family going hungry from me losing my assets, job, and future Helping isn't bad but think abit about what can happen if you do. Is your family worth that one life? This is god awful, terrible, cowardice logic. First of all, you probably won't get sued. In fact, we see the mother crying in this video. You wouldn't have gotten sued. And 99% of the time you wouldn't get sued. Second of all, you and your family are still alive. Completely selfish and cowardly to assume your own family will starve because of a lawsuit that might not even WIN much less happen in the first place. This disgusts me. I'm sorry but I just don't understand how anyone can react in this manner. it's not logic. There is no logic in split second decisions. You either help or you are a coward. LOL, OK their cowboy. I'd rather be a coward and still be able to provide for my family.
I know it is your opinion and therefore a bit futile to argue against it - but this attitude is exactly why noone stopped to help and i respectfully disagree with it. I think these priorities are just a little bit mixed up.
Is there any news on the little girl in the hospital? Extent of the damage etc?
On October 18 2011 11:01 sCFade wrote:
Video description says she's dead, now.
I thought I was pretty jaded, too, but this is the worst thing I've ever seen on the internet..
apaprently she isn't dead but is in critical condition in hospital
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On October 18 2011 10:56 Blasterion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2011 10:55 Slipspace wrote:On October 18 2011 10:36 Blasterion wrote:On October 18 2011 10:35 The KY wrote:On October 18 2011 10:22 Blasterion wrote:On October 18 2011 10:20 HellRoxYa wrote:On October 18 2011 10:11 Blasterion wrote:
We're not saying not to help them, but you gotta be cautious to help people in China, Their lives are not as important as your own. This actually makes no sense at all. Their value compared to your own would only matter if you were to risk anything by assisting them. Say that as you help her and her mother jumps out of the shadows to sue you for helping Anyone who watches a 2 year old girl die because they are afraid of being sued is...well that's a bullshit reason. Like I said, better her dying than my family going hungry from me losing my assets, job, and future Helping isn't bad but think abit about what can happen if you do. Is your family worth that one life? This is god awful, terrible, cowardice logic. First of all, you probably won't get sued. In fact, we see the mother crying in this video. You wouldn't have gotten sued. And 99% of the time you wouldn't get sued. Second of all, you and your family are still alive. Completely selfish and cowardly to assume your own family will starve because of a lawsuit that might not even WIN much less happen in the first place. This disgusts me. I'm sorry but I just don't understand how anyone can react in this manner. A foreigner like you are in no place to say that
A human life has the same value, whether its in China or in any other part of the world. Saving that girl has to be the number one priority, no matter what the consequences. It surprises and shocks me that you are able to say this with a clean conscience. The risk of being sued is well worth it to save an innocent kid's life. The moral degeneration that you exhibit is disgusting to say the least.
I'm not going to sit here and pretend that this phenomenon is local to China or any specific country. But any person who just walks away without even lifting a finger is no better than the driver of the van himself and is a leech on the society who enjoys its benefits without any responsibilities. A society with such people is swiftly and surely heading towards its own destruction.
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On October 18 2011 11:02 Ryuu314 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2011 10:48 Sipher wrote:On October 18 2011 10:38 Dazer wrote:On October 18 2011 10:36 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
I just realized another fucking problem with that video. Where's the godamn sidewalk? There should be regulations to ensure the presence of sidewalks so you can set easy limits for children, ie stay off the road. There should also be regulations for the vehicles. That thing's as tall as a fucking bus, it had no business .....
Space... there's no space... godamn it. So many issues are interrelated. Welcome to third world society. If you think China is a Third World country then you are very ignorant. By the old technical terms (I hate most 1st, 2nd, and 3rd world labels because it related to back in the Cold War; and they are outdated terms), China would be a 2nd world country because they are Communist. However, to be honest. They have a booming economy, and have such high growth that they are looking like the USA back in the 50's after WW2. China can't be qualified as 1st 2nd or 3rd world because of simply how vast and how varied each province and each town is from one another. If you go to the big populated urban centers like Beijing or Shanghai or Hong Kong, it's very clearly a 1st world environment. However, the vast majority of China are not that developed and many places aren't even close to being so developed. Something like 50%+ of China is still completely rural and can definitely be qualified as 3rd world.
That's pretty true.
City people are rich and own several condos, Owning houses are hard simply because there almost isn't any, poor people well, kind eat dirt
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I want to believe that it is fake.
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On October 18 2011 11:03 bkrow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2011 11:00 Blasterion wrote:On October 18 2011 10:57 Sfydjklm wrote:On October 18 2011 10:55 Slipspace wrote:On October 18 2011 10:36 Blasterion wrote:On October 18 2011 10:35 The KY wrote:On October 18 2011 10:22 Blasterion wrote:On October 18 2011 10:20 HellRoxYa wrote:On October 18 2011 10:11 Blasterion wrote:
We're not saying not to help them, but you gotta be cautious to help people in China, Their lives are not as important as your own. This actually makes no sense at all. Their value compared to your own would only matter if you were to risk anything by assisting them. Say that as you help her and her mother jumps out of the shadows to sue you for helping Anyone who watches a 2 year old girl die because they are afraid of being sued is...well that's a bullshit reason. Like I said, better her dying than my family going hungry from me losing my assets, job, and future Helping isn't bad but think abit about what can happen if you do. Is your family worth that one life? This is god awful, terrible, cowardice logic. First of all, you probably won't get sued. In fact, we see the mother crying in this video. You wouldn't have gotten sued. And 99% of the time you wouldn't get sued. Second of all, you and your family are still alive. Completely selfish and cowardly to assume your own family will starve because of a lawsuit that might not even WIN much less happen in the first place. This disgusts me. I'm sorry but I just don't understand how anyone can react in this manner. it's not logic. There is no logic in split second decisions. You either help or you are a coward. I may be a coward, but my family will have food on their table Show nested quote +On October 18 2011 10:59 TOloseGT wrote:On October 18 2011 10:57 Sfydjklm wrote:On October 18 2011 10:55 Slipspace wrote:On October 18 2011 10:36 Blasterion wrote:On October 18 2011 10:35 The KY wrote:On October 18 2011 10:22 Blasterion wrote:On October 18 2011 10:20 HellRoxYa wrote:On October 18 2011 10:11 Blasterion wrote:
We're not saying not to help them, but you gotta be cautious to help people in China, Their lives are not as important as your own. This actually makes no sense at all. Their value compared to your own would only matter if you were to risk anything by assisting them. Say that as you help her and her mother jumps out of the shadows to sue you for helping Anyone who watches a 2 year old girl die because they are afraid of being sued is...well that's a bullshit reason. Like I said, better her dying than my family going hungry from me losing my assets, job, and future Helping isn't bad but think abit about what can happen if you do. Is your family worth that one life? This is god awful, terrible, cowardice logic. First of all, you probably won't get sued. In fact, we see the mother crying in this video. You wouldn't have gotten sued. And 99% of the time you wouldn't get sued. Second of all, you and your family are still alive. Completely selfish and cowardly to assume your own family will starve because of a lawsuit that might not even WIN much less happen in the first place. This disgusts me. I'm sorry but I just don't understand how anyone can react in this manner. it's not logic. There is no logic in split second decisions. You either help or you are a coward. LOL, OK their cowboy. I'd rather be a coward and still be able to provide for my family. I know it is your opinion and therefore a bit futile to argue against it - but this attitude is exactly why noone stopped to help and i respectfully disagree with it. I think these priorities are just a little bit mixed up. Is there any news on the little girl in the hospital? Extent of the damage etc? Show nested quote +On October 18 2011 11:01 sCFade wrote:
Video description says she's dead, now.
I thought I was pretty jaded, too, but this is the worst thing I've ever seen on the internet.. apaprently she isn't dead but is in critical condition in hospital
Alive, but definitely bad condition
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Tragic.
I'll leave out any of the cliché "what's the world coming to" style postings, I'm sure others will fill in that role.
Extremely sickening to watch someone run over a child, stop and then continue to run her over..
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Luckily I married someone with the decency to accept poverty if it meant saving a girl dying in the streets.
Hell, we spent a large sum of money recently to give surgery to a dying stray cat, and that was a fucking CAT. And believe me when I say we are not close to being well-off.
It is convenient I suppose to assume that the result of saving this girl is having your children and family starve to death. Those sort of irrational assumptions make it much easier to rationalize walking away.
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On October 18 2011 11:03 bkrow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2011 11:00 Blasterion wrote:On October 18 2011 10:57 Sfydjklm wrote:On October 18 2011 10:55 Slipspace wrote:On October 18 2011 10:36 Blasterion wrote:On October 18 2011 10:35 The KY wrote:On October 18 2011 10:22 Blasterion wrote:On October 18 2011 10:20 HellRoxYa wrote:On October 18 2011 10:11 Blasterion wrote:
We're not saying not to help them, but you gotta be cautious to help people in China, Their lives are not as important as your own. This actually makes no sense at all. Their value compared to your own would only matter if you were to risk anything by assisting them. Say that as you help her and her mother jumps out of the shadows to sue you for helping Anyone who watches a 2 year old girl die because they are afraid of being sued is...well that's a bullshit reason. Like I said, better her dying than my family going hungry from me losing my assets, job, and future Helping isn't bad but think abit about what can happen if you do. Is your family worth that one life? This is god awful, terrible, cowardice logic. First of all, you probably won't get sued. In fact, we see the mother crying in this video. You wouldn't have gotten sued. And 99% of the time you wouldn't get sued. Second of all, you and your family are still alive. Completely selfish and cowardly to assume your own family will starve because of a lawsuit that might not even WIN much less happen in the first place. This disgusts me. I'm sorry but I just don't understand how anyone can react in this manner. it's not logic. There is no logic in split second decisions. You either help or you are a coward. I may be a coward, but my family will have food on their table Show nested quote +On October 18 2011 10:59 TOloseGT wrote:On October 18 2011 10:57 Sfydjklm wrote:On October 18 2011 10:55 Slipspace wrote:On October 18 2011 10:36 Blasterion wrote:On October 18 2011 10:35 The KY wrote:On October 18 2011 10:22 Blasterion wrote:On October 18 2011 10:20 HellRoxYa wrote:On October 18 2011 10:11 Blasterion wrote:
We're not saying not to help them, but you gotta be cautious to help people in China, Their lives are not as important as your own. This actually makes no sense at all. Their value compared to your own would only matter if you were to risk anything by assisting them. Say that as you help her and her mother jumps out of the shadows to sue you for helping Anyone who watches a 2 year old girl die because they are afraid of being sued is...well that's a bullshit reason. Like I said, better her dying than my family going hungry from me losing my assets, job, and future Helping isn't bad but think abit about what can happen if you do. Is your family worth that one life? This is god awful, terrible, cowardice logic. First of all, you probably won't get sued. In fact, we see the mother crying in this video. You wouldn't have gotten sued. And 99% of the time you wouldn't get sued. Second of all, you and your family are still alive. Completely selfish and cowardly to assume your own family will starve because of a lawsuit that might not even WIN much less happen in the first place. This disgusts me. I'm sorry but I just don't understand how anyone can react in this manner. it's not logic. There is no logic in split second decisions. You either help or you are a coward. LOL, OK their cowboy. I'd rather be a coward and still be able to provide for my family. I know it is your opinion and therefore a bit futile to argue against it - but this attitude is exactly why noone stopped to help and i respectfully disagree with it. I think these priorities are just a little bit mixed up.
My priorities change depending on where I am. In any Western society, you can be damned sure I'd be there to help. In China, not so much.
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even with 06 decision(most people you help will feel gratitude and not put a blame on you or try to sue) you have to forget about yourself at some point and step in as a human being, this was one of those scenarios. most other places the bystander effect would apply when it puts their own lives at risk not for fear of getting sued. its silly for there to be a system that would make you think twice about helping people in dire need. w t f china.
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There's a difference between people in the West hesitating to help victims of stabbings or other life threatening situations and cases like this, where a toddler that's been critically injured after being run over is turned a blind eye towards by pedestrians.
Let's forget all the talk of "oh well, this happens everywhere!" Of course it does, but it happens more frequently in countries that tend to be a little more backwards... Whereas in the above example, the bystander effect probably takes precedence in both situations, one happens to be very much influenced by government policy.
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On October 18 2011 11:01 sCFade wrote:
Video description says she's dead, now.
I thought I was pretty jaded, too, but this is the worst thing I've ever seen on the internet..
I wish I didn't watch that.....
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On October 18 2011 11:03 Piledriver wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2011 10:56 Blasterion wrote:On October 18 2011 10:55 Slipspace wrote:On October 18 2011 10:36 Blasterion wrote:On October 18 2011 10:35 The KY wrote:On October 18 2011 10:22 Blasterion wrote:On October 18 2011 10:20 HellRoxYa wrote:On October 18 2011 10:11 Blasterion wrote:
We're not saying not to help them, but you gotta be cautious to help people in China, Their lives are not as important as your own. This actually makes no sense at all. Their value compared to your own would only matter if you were to risk anything by assisting them. Say that as you help her and her mother jumps out of the shadows to sue you for helping Anyone who watches a 2 year old girl die because they are afraid of being sued is...well that's a bullshit reason. Like I said, better her dying than my family going hungry from me losing my assets, job, and future Helping isn't bad but think abit about what can happen if you do. Is your family worth that one life? This is god awful, terrible, cowardice logic. First of all, you probably won't get sued. In fact, we see the mother crying in this video. You wouldn't have gotten sued. And 99% of the time you wouldn't get sued. Second of all, you and your family are still alive. Completely selfish and cowardly to assume your own family will starve because of a lawsuit that might not even WIN much less happen in the first place. This disgusts me. I'm sorry but I just don't understand how anyone can react in this manner. A foreigner like you are in no place to say that A human life has the same value, whether its in China or in any other part of the world. Saving that girl has to be the number one priority, no matter what the consequences. It surprises and shocks me that you are able to say this with a clean conscience. The risk of being sued is well worth it to save an innocent kid's life. The moral degeneration that you exhibit is disgusting to say the least. I'm not going to sit here and pretend that this phenomenon is local to China or any specific country. But any person who just walks away without even lifting a finger is no better than the driver of the van himself and is a leech on the society who enjoys its benefits without any responsibilities. Such a society is swiftly and surely heading towards its own destruction.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I'm a Canadian but my parents are Chinese. I've discussed with them regarding this and we had the same opinion. In China, what happened, is the standard thing that should've happened. Given that the 06 case penalty was based on REASONING, not PROOF, there's not much of a reason to take the chance that you could be caring for hell, 20% of the treatment of a random person you found on the street for the rest of their life. In Canada, I would've helped the girl in a heartbeat. In China, I would've looked and at the very most, called 120. I'm willing to bet that everyone who sees both sides will probably see the same way I do. Sorry to the girl's parents but my family > their family, in 100% of cases.
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On October 18 2011 10:49 Parj wrote:Show nested quote +
Like I said, better her dying than my family going hungry from me losing my assets, job, and future
Helping isn't bad but think abit about what can happen if you do.
Is your family worth that one life?
Oh sure you're right, life is so pragmatical. Why don't you take her rests for dinner?
Easy to be a judgmental little shit when you're never gonna be in that situation yourself.
On a related note, even though theres no form of 'Good Samaritan' law in bangladesh, I've personally seen people just say fuck it and try to help. Of course the situations absolutely different from china, so its not a comparison.
When my uncle took me to the park when i was 5 or 6 or something, i dropped some candy or something and started crying like a little girl. 5 different guys walked up and demanded my uncle prove hes not kidnapping me because i was crying so hard (we look nothing alike, and our skin colors were very different).
Also if somebody pulls out a knife here and starts threatening, instead of people running like fuck they DIVE on the guy with the knife as a crowd. Its kind of ridiculous
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What The Fu*k.... That is just awful SOO many people walk right by... do nothing...
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This just happened this past Thursday. Yet another incident of Chinese citizens watching another citizen (even this young child!) injured yet no response from them. This phenomenon of watching idly to this degree of accident may seem barbaric to us in the US, but this can be accredited to the fear of getting accused of being the cause of the accident rather than a good Samaritan...Thank God for the Good Samaritan Law here. This is such a sad case and I just cant wrap my mind around the thought of just watching a toddler seriously injured and having to weigh my choices of helping or ignoring. That's just so inhumane.
Yes if only every country in the world was just like the US... aahh.. what a sad world. Lol.
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On October 18 2011 11:08 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Luckily I married someone with the decency to accept poverty if it meant saving a girl dying in the streets.
Hell, we spent a large sum of money recently to give surgery to a dying stray cat, and that was a fucking CAT. And believe me when I say we are not close to being well-off.
It is convenient I suppose to assume that the result of saving this girl is having your children and family starve to death. Those sort of irrational assumptions make it much easier to rationalize walking away.
Where do you get off going the moral high road? I love that you live in a fairy land where there's evil and there's good. This shit is complicated because of past precedents. I would love to help, but since I'm not superman, there's a chance I could get owned doing so. I'm weighing the life of one person to the lives of 4 people.
I'm glad that you would willingly spend 40% of your income throughout your life towards your cat, I'm not as generous.
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