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On June 23 2014 17:11 Mikau wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 08:47 sluggaslamoo wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 23 2014 08:07 Mikau wrote:
So there's a girl I'm interested in. She is amazingly hot and ticks all my boxes. Lately she's been acting really flirty with me (touching me, laughing at jokes I'm pretty sure weren't funny, acting all sad when I was leaving among other things). The problem is she's 18 years old to my 25, and she's a colleague of mine. She's a waitress, I'm a chef.
I feel like a bit of a perv for being attracted to her but I am attracted to her. I'll only be working with her for another 2 months, after that I'm going back to uni. Regardless, would you guys agree with an assessment that acting on my attraction would be a recipe for disaster?
If not, how do I escalate anything without becoming the company pedobear? Legally she's an adult no? There's nothing wrong with acting off attraction that's completely normal. You know yourself better than anyone else, if you are the kind of person that gets hurt over relationships, then its best to just be really direct and open with her before you get invested. If you can handle break ups easily and you are really confident then you could play it as you go. If you are scared of "ruining the chance" because you think things are going amazingly with this hot girl and you don't wanna screw it up then I would be wary. This is exactly the kind of mentality that will get you super invested and then not work out. I want to just emphasise this because of the bolded part. You know nothing about her, saying that she already ticks all the boxes means you are giving her attributes that don't exist or can't possibly know yet, possibly because of her looks. She can't possibly "tick all the boxes" until you know a lot more about her. Take off the rose tinted glasses and see her for who she is, have valid reasons for getting into a relationship with her. Its just if your drivers are mostly external it can cause you a lot of pain when things don't work out. In the end she's just a girl, nothing separates her from the rest of them, she's not special and there's nothing to say that you won't meet a better person in the future. As long as you have your life worked out and you know exactly what you want, and you know when to let things go if you don't connect, then there is nothing to be worried about. This is what I would do (I'm not you so I'm not saying this is the best way). Make sure to not just come out of the blue, give her some time to prepare. In the middle of a chat during the day say something like "hey what are you doing after work? I'd like to talk to you about something" at a really comfortable time, then play it off and continue your fun chat like you've normally been doing. If she's busy just say ok and keep talking, move on, try again later, if she says she's got time then there's probably something going on. Then come that time start chatting with her, talk anything interesting about your day, exaggerate it! tell her some amazing story that happened or whatever. Then you could be really direct look straight at her in the eyes and say (and try to be as slow and casual as possible, don't blurt it out) "Yeah so I find you really attractive, I think you feel the same way about me, and was wondering if you wanted to hang out". She will either say no sorry or yes, this is good because you don't get invested and get hurt in the future, or you both are "in the know" and you can escalate quickly without trouble. No matter how she responds keep talking, it will make both of you feel better and not make the situation weird. Once you start dating, escalating wise I found its just better to save the trouble and get everything out the door for me. Tell her what you like, your lifestyle and what you are about, what you are looking for, find how you can fulfill each others needs, e.g sex, going out and enjoyment, what you find attractive, etc (same for her). Obviously not like an interview manner, but I try to get the bases covered early because the longer the relationship goes the harder these questions are for her to answer. And if you don't match up just let it go and find someone else that fits you better. Or you can be indirect and play games and take the rollercoaster ride of not knowing where each other are at, either works it depends on you and the girl, really its up to you. Maybe "she ticks all my boxes" was phrased poorly. What I meant to say was, A lot of the character traits and interests she displayed are ones I find attractive. I realise that I know next to nothing about her and that we've only been chatting for a bit. There's no real pedestal or investment so far, though I have been prone to do that in the past. I think the way I feel about the age difference is keeping that at bay at the moment. Thanks for your other advice on asking her out. I'm working with her again today so the least I can do today is flirt back. I'll be on holiday for a week after that so we'll see what happens when I get back. Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 11:35 Xiphos wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 23 2014 08:07 Mikau wrote:+ Show Spoiler +So there's a girl I'm interested in. She is amazingly hot and ticks all my boxes. Lately she's been acting really flirty with me (touching me, laughing at jokes I'm pretty sure weren't funny, acting all sad when I was leaving among other things). The problem is she's 18 years old to my 25, and she's a colleague of mine. She's a waitress, I'm a chef. I feel like a bit of a perv for being attracted to her but I am attracted to her. I'll only be working with her for another 2 months, after that I'm going back to uni. Regardless, would you guys agree with an assessment that acting on my attraction would be a recipe for disaster? (don't shit where you eat, don't hit on barely legal girls  ) If not, how do I escalate anything without becoming the company pedobear? Huh, well there are many factors at play here. First off all, we need to look at some logistical factors. Will your work be effected by the pursuit of this girl? Atm, I only care about your wellness, so if there are any policies regarding forging relationships b/w employees. And even though, you will be out there in 2 months, I hate to your work getting prematurely terminated. Under the assumption that your job placement won't be affected, is it legally to date her? Which appears to be positive through http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe#Netherlands. So if it is legal to date her, you shouldn't feel bad about it at all! Personally, I treat women with respect so by the fact that she is acting really flirty with you is a sign that she WANTS you to flirt back. By denying her advances, you are unconsciously saying that she ain't good for you, this will perhaps make her lose self-esteems and really not showing the necessary respect that she deserves. By all means, you should go for it! Later on, you may never see this girl again due to moving, careers, or just general life obstacles. Will you really live the rest of your life in regret of thinking about "what if..."? Yeah she's legal, and no my work won't really be affected. I could avoid her if I wanted to, and we don't exactly work together on a daily basis anyway. So her attitude towards me won't really change my work. There is no real policies regarding dating so that too shouldn't be a problem. I'm not so sure on the attitude of other more direct colleagues if they hear I've been hitting on an 18 year old though...  I agree that I don't want to regret and think "what if". I also don't really think I shouldn't be trying to get something going with her, I just think I need a bit of time to get used to the idea. I'll see what I can get accomplished working with her today.
Just keep in mind she's only 18 and has had significantly less life experience than you, and might be expecting different things in a relationship or be less mature in certain areas.
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SoSexy's pro tips: if you date many girls but you start to feel very attracted to one (i.e. think about her way too much etc) you have two options:
1) ask her to be exclusive 2) drop her
If you don't do one of these twos, shit will happen.
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Just be honest, and don't do anything drastic you might regret later.
If you know you're attracted to a girl but don't want a relationship, just tell her exactly that.
The worst thing that can happen is that you won't see her again, no harm done. The best thing that can happen is that you find a friends with benefit type situation that lasts until you find someone you really like, or she does.
The only thing you shouldn't do is to lie about your intentions or pretend you're interested in a relationship when all you want is her delicious booty.
The way I see it:
Sex with a girl you love > regular sex with a girl you find only physically attractive > random one night stands > having a wank.
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On June 24 2014 03:43 SixStrings wrote: Just be honest, and don't do anything drastic you might regret later.
If you know you're attracted to a girl but don't want a relationship, just tell her exactly that.
The worst thing that can happen is that you won't see her again, no harm done. The best thing that can happen is that you find a friends with benefit type situation that lasts until you find someone you really like, or she does.
The only thing you shouldn't do is to lie about your intentions or pretend you're interested in a relationship when all you want is her delicious booty.
The way I see it:
Sex with a girl you love > regular sex with a girl you find only physically attractive > random one night stands > having a wank.
Wtf, I think you should apologize to the wank.
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On June 24 2014 04:45 Nausea wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 03:43 SixStrings wrote: Just be honest, and don't do anything drastic you might regret later.
If you know you're attracted to a girl but don't want a relationship, just tell her exactly that.
The worst thing that can happen is that you won't see her again, no harm done. The best thing that can happen is that you find a friends with benefit type situation that lasts until you find someone you really like, or she does.
The only thing you shouldn't do is to lie about your intentions or pretend you're interested in a relationship when all you want is her delicious booty.
The way I see it:
Sex with a girl you love > regular sex with a girl you find only physically attractive > random one night stands > having a wank. Wtf, I think you should apologize to the wank.
Agreed. Random one night stands are pretty shit.
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On June 24 2014 06:43 Ghostcom wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 04:45 Nausea wrote:On June 24 2014 03:43 SixStrings wrote: Just be honest, and don't do anything drastic you might regret later.
If you know you're attracted to a girl but don't want a relationship, just tell her exactly that.
The worst thing that can happen is that you won't see her again, no harm done. The best thing that can happen is that you find a friends with benefit type situation that lasts until you find someone you really like, or she does.
The only thing you shouldn't do is to lie about your intentions or pretend you're interested in a relationship when all you want is her delicious booty.
The way I see it:
Sex with a girl you love > regular sex with a girl you find only physically attractive > random one night stands > having a wank. Wtf, I think you should apologize to the wank. Agreed. Random one night stands are pretty shit.
Tell me straight-facedly that you'd prefer having a wank over having sex with an eager girl, even if it's just once, and I'll call you a liar.
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On June 24 2014 07:22 SixStrings wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 06:43 Ghostcom wrote:On June 24 2014 04:45 Nausea wrote:On June 24 2014 03:43 SixStrings wrote: Just be honest, and don't do anything drastic you might regret later.
If you know you're attracted to a girl but don't want a relationship, just tell her exactly that.
The worst thing that can happen is that you won't see her again, no harm done. The best thing that can happen is that you find a friends with benefit type situation that lasts until you find someone you really like, or she does.
The only thing you shouldn't do is to lie about your intentions or pretend you're interested in a relationship when all you want is her delicious booty.
The way I see it:
Sex with a girl you love > regular sex with a girl you find only physically attractive > random one night stands > having a wank. Wtf, I think you should apologize to the wank. Agreed. Random one night stands are pretty shit. Tell me straight-facedly that you'd prefer having a wank over having sex with an eager girl, even if it's just once, and I'll call you a liar. I'll tell it to you, and you'll be wrong. But obviously you know all.
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On June 24 2014 07:22 SixStrings wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 06:43 Ghostcom wrote:On June 24 2014 04:45 Nausea wrote:On June 24 2014 03:43 SixStrings wrote: Just be honest, and don't do anything drastic you might regret later.
If you know you're attracted to a girl but don't want a relationship, just tell her exactly that.
The worst thing that can happen is that you won't see her again, no harm done. The best thing that can happen is that you find a friends with benefit type situation that lasts until you find someone you really like, or she does.
The only thing you shouldn't do is to lie about your intentions or pretend you're interested in a relationship when all you want is her delicious booty.
The way I see it:
Sex with a girl you love > regular sex with a girl you find only physically attractive > random one night stands > having a wank. Wtf, I think you should apologize to the wank. Agreed. Random one night stands are pretty shit. Tell me straight-facedly that you'd prefer having a wank over having sex with an eager girl, even if it's just once, and I'll call you a liar.
Oh look, it's Mr. I impregnated a girl and ran from my responsibility talking.... Or do you prefer Mr. I got a girl to phone her boyfriend whilst she orally pleasured me? I'll repeat myself: One night stands are shit.
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On June 24 2014 07:41 Ghostcom wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 07:22 SixStrings wrote:On June 24 2014 06:43 Ghostcom wrote:On June 24 2014 04:45 Nausea wrote:On June 24 2014 03:43 SixStrings wrote: Just be honest, and don't do anything drastic you might regret later.
If you know you're attracted to a girl but don't want a relationship, just tell her exactly that.
The worst thing that can happen is that you won't see her again, no harm done. The best thing that can happen is that you find a friends with benefit type situation that lasts until you find someone you really like, or she does.
The only thing you shouldn't do is to lie about your intentions or pretend you're interested in a relationship when all you want is her delicious booty.
The way I see it:
Sex with a girl you love > regular sex with a girl you find only physically attractive > random one night stands > having a wank. Wtf, I think you should apologize to the wank. Agreed. Random one night stands are pretty shit. Tell me straight-facedly that you'd prefer having a wank over having sex with an eager girl, even if it's just once, and I'll call you a liar. Oh look, it's Mr. I impregnated a girl and ran from my responsibility talking.... Or do you prefer Mr. I got a girl to phone her boyfriend whilst she orally pleasured me? I'll repeat myself: One night stands are shit.
Which we can't verify any of those because it is the anonymous part of the internet so take his stories with a grain of salt.
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Well he either did those things, or he thought it would make him sound cool to lie about them. The second is possibly worse.
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On June 24 2014 07:22 SixStrings wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 06:43 Ghostcom wrote:On June 24 2014 04:45 Nausea wrote:On June 24 2014 03:43 SixStrings wrote: Just be honest, and don't do anything drastic you might regret later.
If you know you're attracted to a girl but don't want a relationship, just tell her exactly that.
The worst thing that can happen is that you won't see her again, no harm done. The best thing that can happen is that you find a friends with benefit type situation that lasts until you find someone you really like, or she does.
The only thing you shouldn't do is to lie about your intentions or pretend you're interested in a relationship when all you want is her delicious booty.
The way I see it:
Sex with a girl you love > regular sex with a girl you find only physically attractive > random one night stands > having a wank. Wtf, I think you should apologize to the wank. Agreed. Random one night stands are pretty shit. Tell me straight-facedly that you'd prefer having a wank over having sex with an eager girl, even if it's just once, and I'll call you a liar. A good old-fashioned wank doesn't have any drama, bullshit, or moral bankruptcies involved, so... I'm a liar?
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No luck here, nyan. Oh well, that's life for ya.
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On June 24 2014 09:19 SeraNyan wrote: No luck here, nyan. Oh well, that's life for ya.
Try not being such a pussy.
User was warned for this post
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On June 24 2014 03:07 SoSexy wrote: SoSexy's pro tips: if you date many girls but you start to feel very attracted to one (i.e. think about her way too much etc) you have two options:
1) ask her to be exclusive 2) drop her
If you don't do one of these twos, shit will happen.
OR
3) Tell her you need some time off because you are really busy right now (but assure her that you still really like her so she doesn't get all insecure). Then wait until the feeling subsides and you can think about her normally again. Sometimes they end up liking you more when you come back anyway.
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On June 24 2014 09:02 NewSunshine wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 07:22 SixStrings wrote:On June 24 2014 06:43 Ghostcom wrote:On June 24 2014 04:45 Nausea wrote:On June 24 2014 03:43 SixStrings wrote: Just be honest, and don't do anything drastic you might regret later.
If you know you're attracted to a girl but don't want a relationship, just tell her exactly that.
The worst thing that can happen is that you won't see her again, no harm done. The best thing that can happen is that you find a friends with benefit type situation that lasts until you find someone you really like, or she does.
The only thing you shouldn't do is to lie about your intentions or pretend you're interested in a relationship when all you want is her delicious booty.
The way I see it:
Sex with a girl you love > regular sex with a girl you find only physically attractive > random one night stands > having a wank. Wtf, I think you should apologize to the wank. Agreed. Random one night stands are pretty shit. Tell me straight-facedly that you'd prefer having a wank over having sex with an eager girl, even if it's just once, and I'll call you a liar. A good old-fashioned wank doesn't have any drama, bullshit, or moral bankruptcies involved, so... I'm a liar?
Wait how does a one night stand necessarily have those things?
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On June 24 2014 12:59 IgnE wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 09:02 NewSunshine wrote:On June 24 2014 07:22 SixStrings wrote:On June 24 2014 06:43 Ghostcom wrote:On June 24 2014 04:45 Nausea wrote:On June 24 2014 03:43 SixStrings wrote: Just be honest, and don't do anything drastic you might regret later.
If you know you're attracted to a girl but don't want a relationship, just tell her exactly that.
The worst thing that can happen is that you won't see her again, no harm done. The best thing that can happen is that you find a friends with benefit type situation that lasts until you find someone you really like, or she does.
The only thing you shouldn't do is to lie about your intentions or pretend you're interested in a relationship when all you want is her delicious booty.
The way I see it:
Sex with a girl you love > regular sex with a girl you find only physically attractive > random one night stands > having a wank. Wtf, I think you should apologize to the wank. Agreed. Random one night stands are pretty shit. Tell me straight-facedly that you'd prefer having a wank over having sex with an eager girl, even if it's just once, and I'll call you a liar. A good old-fashioned wank doesn't have any drama, bullshit, or moral bankruptcies involved, so... I'm a liar? Wait how does a one night stand necessarily have those things? The third thing is probably the most common. I value my relationships with women, so I don't see much appeal in using somebody once and throwing her away for someone else to pick up, I think that's the mark of someone who doesn't really know what they want. And just spending time to yourself - doesn't have to be a wank - keeps your head free and clear of the other two.
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On June 24 2014 12:28 sluggaslamoo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 03:07 SoSexy wrote: SoSexy's pro tips: if you date many girls but you start to feel very attracted to one (i.e. think about her way too much etc) you have two options:
1) ask her to be exclusive 2) drop her
If you don't do one of these twos, shit will happen. OR 3) Tell her you need some time off because you are really busy right now (but assure her that you still really like her so she doesn't get all insecure). Then wait until the feeling subsides and you can think about her normally again. Sometimes they end up liking you more when you come back anyway.
4) tell her that you think it's possible to love more than one person at a time and that no single person can provide for 100% of a person's needs and desires
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On June 24 2014 13:03 NewSunshine wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 12:59 IgnE wrote:On June 24 2014 09:02 NewSunshine wrote:On June 24 2014 07:22 SixStrings wrote:On June 24 2014 06:43 Ghostcom wrote:On June 24 2014 04:45 Nausea wrote:On June 24 2014 03:43 SixStrings wrote: Just be honest, and don't do anything drastic you might regret later.
If you know you're attracted to a girl but don't want a relationship, just tell her exactly that.
The worst thing that can happen is that you won't see her again, no harm done. The best thing that can happen is that you find a friends with benefit type situation that lasts until you find someone you really like, or she does.
The only thing you shouldn't do is to lie about your intentions or pretend you're interested in a relationship when all you want is her delicious booty.
The way I see it:
Sex with a girl you love > regular sex with a girl you find only physically attractive > random one night stands > having a wank. Wtf, I think you should apologize to the wank. Agreed. Random one night stands are pretty shit. Tell me straight-facedly that you'd prefer having a wank over having sex with an eager girl, even if it's just once, and I'll call you a liar. A good old-fashioned wank doesn't have any drama, bullshit, or moral bankruptcies involved, so... I'm a liar? Wait how does a one night stand necessarily have those things? The third thing is probably the most common. I value my relationships with women, so I don't see much appeal in using somebody once and throwing her away for someone else to pick up, I think that's the mark of someone who doesn't really know what they want. And just spending time to yourself - doesn't have to be a wank - keeps your head free and clear of the other two.
What's morally bankrupt about a one-night stand? It's sexist of you to think that the woman is always 'thrown away' as if a woman can't knowingly enter a one-night stand without some kind of agenda to get something more out of it.
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On June 24 2014 13:05 IgnE wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 13:03 NewSunshine wrote:On June 24 2014 12:59 IgnE wrote:On June 24 2014 09:02 NewSunshine wrote:On June 24 2014 07:22 SixStrings wrote:On June 24 2014 06:43 Ghostcom wrote:On June 24 2014 04:45 Nausea wrote:On June 24 2014 03:43 SixStrings wrote: Just be honest, and don't do anything drastic you might regret later.
If you know you're attracted to a girl but don't want a relationship, just tell her exactly that.
The worst thing that can happen is that you won't see her again, no harm done. The best thing that can happen is that you find a friends with benefit type situation that lasts until you find someone you really like, or she does.
The only thing you shouldn't do is to lie about your intentions or pretend you're interested in a relationship when all you want is her delicious booty.
The way I see it:
Sex with a girl you love > regular sex with a girl you find only physically attractive > random one night stands > having a wank. Wtf, I think you should apologize to the wank. Agreed. Random one night stands are pretty shit. Tell me straight-facedly that you'd prefer having a wank over having sex with an eager girl, even if it's just once, and I'll call you a liar. A good old-fashioned wank doesn't have any drama, bullshit, or moral bankruptcies involved, so... I'm a liar? Wait how does a one night stand necessarily have those things? The third thing is probably the most common. I value my relationships with women, so I don't see much appeal in using somebody once and throwing her away for someone else to pick up, I think that's the mark of someone who doesn't really know what they want. And just spending time to yourself - doesn't have to be a wank - keeps your head free and clear of the other two. What's morally bankrupt about a one-night stand? It's sexist of you to think that the woman is always 'thrown away' as if a woman can't knowingly enter a one-night stand without some kind of agenda to get something more out of it. Thrown away as in, I have no further need for her, therefore she can go away. That's the thinking of someone who's not ready for something serious, or who doesn't know what they're looking for, so they just picked someone. Not necessarily morally bankrupt, as I put it, but it can certainly be the case. Then again, you implied that I was trying to prove that it's always the case, when I didn't say that. I said spending time with yourself will never make that the case. Different.
On June 24 2014 13:04 IgnE wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 12:28 sluggaslamoo wrote:On June 24 2014 03:07 SoSexy wrote: SoSexy's pro tips: if you date many girls but you start to feel very attracted to one (i.e. think about her way too much etc) you have two options:
1) ask her to be exclusive 2) drop her
If you don't do one of these twos, shit will happen. OR 3) Tell her you need some time off because you are really busy right now (but assure her that you still really like her so she doesn't get all insecure). Then wait until the feeling subsides and you can think about her normally again. Sometimes they end up liking you more when you come back anyway. 4) tell her that you think it's possible to love more than one person at a time and that no single person can provide for 100% of a person's needs and desires And on the other hand, you just said this, so I'm seriously wondering if I should keep discussing the point with you. Doesn't seem like good use of my time.
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Hey boys, you ever hang out with a girl that youre so comfortable with and everything is just cool. Relaxed. Im seeing this girl, we work together, We hangout watch movies, go out, you know basic stuff. But whats different from anything ive ever been with is how comfortable i am with her, its just natural. We say the same things sometimes, we choose the same decisions, its just weird. And its also weird because Im not deeply into her like I would be with other women. Im attracted to her of course, Im happy its so chill. Ive never had this before lol
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