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On August 11 2013 00:56 BisuEver wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2013 00:35 Ianuus wrote:On August 10 2013 02:40 chadissilent wrote:On August 10 2013 02:19 QuanticHawk wrote:On August 10 2013 02:13 chadissilent wrote:
To get laid. well yeah that is true hahah. even if you are just trying to get a nut off that requires tolerating someone's presence for at least a few hours and id prefer to not feel like stabbing myself in the eye during that time, but it could just be me. everyone is different! Protip: rate girls on a combination of their looks and personality. I'd fuck anything 15 or higher, so she can be a pretty dumb bitch (5) if she's a 10 in the looks department. Conversely, I'd take down a 5 if she was the coolest person ever. Protip #2: in no way does sex imply dating in the above protip. Nah, fuck those with high looks but low personality, friendzone those with low looks but high personality, date those with high of both. I don't like stupid girls and I don't like girls with shitty personalities. Other things can be worked out. I only date girls that like small dogs. The smaller the better.
The girls or the dogs? Let us be honest here: anything below the size of a dachshund should be classified as a rodent, not a dog.
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On August 11 2013 04:05 BisuEver wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2013 03:26 aTnClouD wrote:On August 10 2013 17:46 BisuEver wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/TpgwIGA.jpg) If this is what one can expect I don't think I want a relationship. Ever. It's like sticking your penis in a blender. I would rather become gay or marry my hand if this is what I could expect. Just terrible people. If you are a shitty person the quality of relationship you can expect will be shitty. Because you have shitty people. You can have a relationship, you just have to man up and be ready to let it go if that happens. So many break up problems are caused by useless clinging. That's not what caused it but ok.
Just don't take it seriously unless you know for sure it's worth it.
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On August 11 2013 04:06 Ghostcom wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2013 00:56 BisuEver wrote:On August 11 2013 00:35 Ianuus wrote:On August 10 2013 02:40 chadissilent wrote:On August 10 2013 02:19 QuanticHawk wrote:On August 10 2013 02:13 chadissilent wrote:
To get laid. well yeah that is true hahah. even if you are just trying to get a nut off that requires tolerating someone's presence for at least a few hours and id prefer to not feel like stabbing myself in the eye during that time, but it could just be me. everyone is different! Protip: rate girls on a combination of their looks and personality. I'd fuck anything 15 or higher, so she can be a pretty dumb bitch (5) if she's a 10 in the looks department. Conversely, I'd take down a 5 if she was the coolest person ever. Protip #2: in no way does sex imply dating in the above protip. Nah, fuck those with high looks but low personality, friendzone those with low looks but high personality, date those with high of both. I don't like stupid girls and I don't like girls with shitty personalities. Other things can be worked out. I only date girls that like small dogs. The smaller the better. The girls or the dogs? Let us be honest here: anything below the size of a dachshund should be classified as a rodent, not a dog.
You know what they say about rabbits.
I wonder if I can find a woman that has a thing for rabbits not dogs.
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On August 11 2013 04:06 Ghostcom wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2013 00:56 BisuEver wrote:On August 11 2013 00:35 Ianuus wrote:On August 10 2013 02:40 chadissilent wrote:On August 10 2013 02:19 QuanticHawk wrote:On August 10 2013 02:13 chadissilent wrote:
To get laid. well yeah that is true hahah. even if you are just trying to get a nut off that requires tolerating someone's presence for at least a few hours and id prefer to not feel like stabbing myself in the eye during that time, but it could just be me. everyone is different! Protip: rate girls on a combination of their looks and personality. I'd fuck anything 15 or higher, so she can be a pretty dumb bitch (5) if she's a 10 in the looks department. Conversely, I'd take down a 5 if she was the coolest person ever. Protip #2: in no way does sex imply dating in the above protip. Nah, fuck those with high looks but low personality, friendzone those with low looks but high personality, date those with high of both. I don't like stupid girls and I don't like girls with shitty personalities. Other things can be worked out. I only date girls that like small dogs. The smaller the better. The girls or the dogs? Let us be honest here: anything below the size of a dachshund should be classified as a rodent, not a dog.
Not sure if he means small dogs ... the smaller the better ... literally 0.o
I did reject an otherwise pretty single girl just because she dolled up a chihuahua and called it cutesy names all the time.
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On August 11 2013 10:57 Danglars wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2013 04:06 Ghostcom wrote:On August 11 2013 00:56 BisuEver wrote:On August 11 2013 00:35 Ianuus wrote:On August 10 2013 02:40 chadissilent wrote:On August 10 2013 02:19 QuanticHawk wrote:On August 10 2013 02:13 chadissilent wrote:
To get laid. well yeah that is true hahah. even if you are just trying to get a nut off that requires tolerating someone's presence for at least a few hours and id prefer to not feel like stabbing myself in the eye during that time, but it could just be me. everyone is different! Protip: rate girls on a combination of their looks and personality. I'd fuck anything 15 or higher, so she can be a pretty dumb bitch (5) if she's a 10 in the looks department. Conversely, I'd take down a 5 if she was the coolest person ever. Protip #2: in no way does sex imply dating in the above protip. Nah, fuck those with high looks but low personality, friendzone those with low looks but high personality, date those with high of both. I don't like stupid girls and I don't like girls with shitty personalities. Other things can be worked out. I only date girls that like small dogs. The smaller the better. The girls or the dogs? Let us be honest here: anything below the size of a dachshund should be classified as a rodent, not a dog. Not sure if he means small dogs ... the smaller the better ... literally 0.o I did reject an otherwise pretty single girl just because she dolled up a chihuahua and called it cutesy names all the time.
Some girls like teacup dogs. Literally the smaller the better. That's crazy hot.
And some girls don't like dogs at all that's even hotter.
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soooooo, fuck girls that have cats, that's all I have to say about that!
P.S. I don't mean literally fuck them, I mean stay away from girls with cats, bitches be crazy!
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Ok, so I'm slightly drunk and just want to vent.... sorry for the verbal diarrhea that's about to follow.
Why the fuck do I always attract girls that are recently out of a committed relationship. My new policy is going to be only attempt to talk to/date girls that have been single for over 4-6 months. My last two dating experiences have been with girls that I can't help but feel used me for a rebound. Are the majority of girls so insecure that after a break up they have to seek attention from any guy just to feel wanted, but at the first sign of physical/serious potential they freak out and say that's not what they're looking for? Maybe I've just had a couple of unlucky experiences or maybe I'm just doing something wrong. How long after a girl is dumped is she psychologically capable of having an actual relationship? Its just so fucking frustrating that the girls I want to date say they aren't ready for a relationship. I'm to the point where I'm almost apathetic to the whole situation.
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On August 10 2013 17:46 BisuEver wrote:If this is what one can expect I don't think I want a relationship. Ever. It's like sticking your penis in a blender. I would rather become gay or marry my hand if this is what I could expect. Just terrible people. If you are a shitty person the quality of relationship you can expect will be shitty. Because you have shitty people.
This is what you should expect if you date cold bitches with less maturity than my itty bitty poodle and more vileness than your local politician. At least my dog certainly has more common sense, and cares about the well-being of others rather than screwing them over.
Sadly, ever since exercising a lot and putting on 20+ lbs and really upped my social skills in the past year and a half, this scroundelish, slutty sort of girls is what I seem to attract for the most part. I think things are changing though. There is one I actually like, and it is mutual. It's been rare I've liked a girl strongly enough since my last breakup, but this lady impresses me.
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On August 11 2013 18:31 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 17:46 BisuEver wrote:If this is what one can expect I don't think I want a relationship. Ever. It's like sticking your penis in a blender. I would rather become gay or marry my hand if this is what I could expect. Just terrible people. If you are a shitty person the quality of relationship you can expect will be shitty. Because you have shitty people. This is what you should expect if you date cold bitches with less maturity than my itty bitty poodle and more vileness than your local politician. At least my dog certainly has more common sense, and cares about the well-being of others rather than screwing them over. Sadly, ever since exercising a lot and putting on 20+ lbs and really upped my social skills in the past year and a half, this scroundelish, slutty sort of girls is what I seem to attract for the most part. I think things are changing though. There is one I actually like, and it is mutual. It's been rare I've liked a girl strongly enough since my last breakup, but this lady impresses me.
Why can't girls like me for my personality? Maybe my personality was too small. Yeah that was it.
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On August 10 2013 02:19 QuanticHawk wrote:well yeah that is true hahah. even if you are just trying to get a nut off that requires tolerating someone's presence for at least a few hours and id prefer to not feel like stabbing myself in the eye during that time, but it could just be me. everyone is different! Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 14:38 Shotcoder wrote:
Protocol for dating/seeing your manager? shit rolls down hill, but you can fuck your way to the top Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 10:47 sunprince wrote:On August 09 2013 07:16 Frits wrote:
Shallowness usually stems from stupidity, try looking for gay guys in more intelligent places. I would argue it's more likely to be a maturity issue. Undergraduate students are generally more intelligent than average, yet campus culture (including fraternities/sororities, college bars/clubs, and house parties) is rather shallow. A gay high school student is particularly disadvantaged when looking for a partner due to the low total number of available out-of-the-closet gay/bi peers, let alone mature ones. I tend to agree with this more. Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 10:59 Retgery wrote:On August 09 2013 09:24 Godwrath wrote:
You don't tell why you are on fear (laughed hard at the terror boner, fucking imagination), i would guess because you were scared of not being good enough ? Drop that shit out of the window, if you never start you will never get better at it. I am pretty sure most people have had some of those insecurities at some point. I really don't know why I was afraid, I was probably afraid of what would happen after. I usually decide if somethings a bad idea before I do it, and then decide not to do it. you've got anxiety issues dude, that's why you were afraid. Every single person in this thread, even the super confident ones, were nervous as hell at one time or another when they were inexperienced like you are. your therapist could obviously give you better insight than i could since you have built up trust with them and i'm just a swell and fabulous internet stranger, and you should probably talk to them about this, but you are in high school. what happens after really is insignifcant because high school relationships are pretty much all bullshit where people are first learning about themselves and relationships, and years later youll just have a funny story most likely. youre battling your own head on that one. there's really not much to think about. get laid, evaluate after, probably get laid again. you have crippling social anxiety and youve got two girls fawning after you. you're already way better than most people in your spot haha
Weirdly enough for me the biggest fear was wtf do I do after. If when I'm not thinking on alcohol I decide I don't want to pursue anything romantic but want to keep seeing that person and my/her friends without feeling I'm about to get stabbed, I am kinda fucked.
And I can't say no to a girl when on alcohol, on pretty much anything. But I can fake being too drunk.
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On August 12 2013 03:09 dakalro wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 02:19 QuanticHawk wrote:On August 10 2013 02:13 chadissilent wrote:
To get laid. well yeah that is true hahah. even if you are just trying to get a nut off that requires tolerating someone's presence for at least a few hours and id prefer to not feel like stabbing myself in the eye during that time, but it could just be me. everyone is different! On August 09 2013 14:38 Shotcoder wrote:
Protocol for dating/seeing your manager? shit rolls down hill, but you can fuck your way to the top On August 09 2013 10:47 sunprince wrote:On August 09 2013 07:16 Frits wrote:
Shallowness usually stems from stupidity, try looking for gay guys in more intelligent places. I would argue it's more likely to be a maturity issue. Undergraduate students are generally more intelligent than average, yet campus culture (including fraternities/sororities, college bars/clubs, and house parties) is rather shallow. A gay high school student is particularly disadvantaged when looking for a partner due to the low total number of available out-of-the-closet gay/bi peers, let alone mature ones. I tend to agree with this more. On August 09 2013 10:59 Retgery wrote:On August 09 2013 09:24 Godwrath wrote:
You don't tell why you are on fear (laughed hard at the terror boner, fucking imagination), i would guess because you were scared of not being good enough ? Drop that shit out of the window, if you never start you will never get better at it. I am pretty sure most people have had some of those insecurities at some point. I really don't know why I was afraid, I was probably afraid of what would happen after. I usually decide if somethings a bad idea before I do it, and then decide not to do it. you've got anxiety issues dude, that's why you were afraid. Every single person in this thread, even the super confident ones, were nervous as hell at one time or another when they were inexperienced like you are. your therapist could obviously give you better insight than i could since you have built up trust with them and i'm just a swell and fabulous internet stranger, and you should probably talk to them about this, but you are in high school. what happens after really is insignifcant because high school relationships are pretty much all bullshit where people are first learning about themselves and relationships, and years later youll just have a funny story most likely. youre battling your own head on that one. there's really not much to think about. get laid, evaluate after, probably get laid again. you have crippling social anxiety and youve got two girls fawning after you. you're already way better than most people in your spot haha Weirdly enough for me the biggest fear was wtf do I do after. If when I'm not thinking on alcohol I decide I don't want to pursue anything romantic but want to keep seeing that person and my/her friends without feeling I'm about to get stabbed, I am kinda fucked. And I can't say no to a girl when on alcohol, on pretty much anything. But I can fake being too drunk.
I can say no to anyone ever in any condition in any state. It's called self control.
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This thread has become pretty depressing this weekend. I am gonna see my girl tomorrow. So happy right now. Without any PUA-tricks, without any fake personalities, without being the most confident guy ever. Without her being a cold bitch, a control freak, using me as break-up-therapy or anything. Just keep it up, there are more then enough decent girls out there for anyone.
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On August 12 2013 03:39 Broetchenholer wrote:
This thread has become pretty depressing this weekend. I am gonna see my girl tomorrow. So happy right now. Without any PUA-tricks, without any fake personalities, without being the most confident guy ever. Without her being a cold bitch, a control freak, using me as break-up-therapy or anything. Just keep it up, there are more then enough decent girls out there for anyone.
I think it's more about maturity, wisdom, and not being a dick I guess. I think if you got 2 people with those you're pretty set and everything else can be worked out.
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On August 12 2013 02:39 BisuEver wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2013 18:31 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:On August 10 2013 17:46 BisuEver wrote:If this is what one can expect I don't think I want a relationship. Ever. It's like sticking your penis in a blender. I would rather become gay or marry my hand if this is what I could expect. Just terrible people. If you are a shitty person the quality of relationship you can expect will be shitty. Because you have shitty people. This is what you should expect if you date cold bitches with less maturity than my itty bitty poodle and more vileness than your local politician. At least my dog certainly has more common sense, and cares about the well-being of others rather than screwing them over. Sadly, ever since exercising a lot and putting on 20+ lbs and really upped my social skills in the past year and a half, this scroundelish, slutty sort of girls is what I seem to attract for the most part. I think things are changing though. There is one I actually like, and it is mutual. It's been rare I've liked a girl strongly enough since my last breakup, but this lady impresses me. Why can't girls like me for my personality? Maybe my personality was too small. Yeah that was it.
It really depends on the kinds of girls you meet. In all honesty that's what it comes down to. Also being in a position where you meet girls. If you have the latter, you're literally "too big to fail". If you are in college and unless you hole yourself up in your dorm, you will be fine.
Not being in a position where girls are just around (like a college dorm where you have 100 girls within 100 feet lol) makes things tough, however. You can be an amazing person in many regards and find it difficult meeting girls if you are not in a convenient position to meet and hang out with them. That's when you have to join certain groups/clubs in your town or do lots of cold approaching.
You can't imagine how many guys I've seen who have no personality, no interests, unsociable, are vile when it benefits them and the opportunity arises, and have nothing one can observe of them that is positive or attractive other than they play some video games, and some of them do have girlfriends.
I don't believe for a second that you can be this "low". I don't know you but I'd like to think you're a good fellow in many regards.
However, it never hurts to improve oneself. Do not take me for being demeaning, I tell myself the same thing. There is always room for self-improvement in every regard. But do note, you'll come to a point or maybe you have where you want to date a girl not simply for the sake of having a gf as almost everyone younger than 25-30 does, but as a best friend and companion forever. This is when you'll need to meet girls for that purpose, rather than 'swaying' them for a short affair or a relationship where it's kind of obvious it'll end up with a breakup somewhere down the line.
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On August 10 2013 23:45 BisuEver wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 19:03 sunprince wrote:On August 10 2013 17:46 BisuEver wrote:If this is what one can expect I don't think I want a relationship. Ever. It's like sticking your penis in a blender. I would rather become gay or marry my hand if this is what I could expect. Just terrible people. If you are a shitty person the quality of relationship you can expect will be shitty. Because you have shitty people. Just-world fallacy. If anything, you've got it backwards: being a bad person increases the likelihood that you will be taking advantage of other people rather than the other way around, so if you are a "shitty" person you are less likely to date "shitty" people. No, I'm saying it will be a shitty relationship. There's 2 people in 1. It's like a prisoner's dilemma thing. Either you can be a worse person or they can be a better one. Otherwise you're both in for some shit.
Your assumption here is that in any relationship, one partner rises to the level of the other and/or one partner sinks to the level of the other.
You have absolutely no basis for that assumption, aside from possibly too many romance movies.
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wow you guys seem rather pessimistic about people in general.. Maybe I'm lucky (haven't been around idiots or something)? I'm still in high school but I have hope for everybody and I believe there is some underlying reason for the way people act and speak.
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On August 12 2013 12:09 Kenpachi wrote:
wow you guys seem rather pessimistic about people in general.. Maybe I'm lucky (haven't been around idiots or something)? I'm still in high school but I have hope for everybody and I believe there is some underlying reason for the way people act and speak.
You're young. Give it time and you will understand, if you keep dating that is.
Sex comes with it's share of baggage and anyone who wants to play the game needs to learn how to carry it. It's a painful process, but a worthwhile one.
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On August 12 2013 08:40 sunprince wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 23:45 BisuEver wrote:On August 10 2013 19:03 sunprince wrote:On August 10 2013 17:46 BisuEver wrote:If this is what one can expect I don't think I want a relationship. Ever. It's like sticking your penis in a blender. I would rather become gay or marry my hand if this is what I could expect. Just terrible people. If you are a shitty person the quality of relationship you can expect will be shitty. Because you have shitty people. Just-world fallacy. If anything, you've got it backwards: being a bad person increases the likelihood that you will be taking advantage of other people rather than the other way around, so if you are a "shitty" person you are less likely to date "shitty" people. No, I'm saying it will be a shitty relationship. There's 2 people in 1. It's like a prisoner's dilemma thing. Either you can be a worse person or they can be a better one. Otherwise you're both in for some shit. Your assumption here is that in any relationship, one partner rises to the level of the other and/or one partner sinks to the level of the other. You have absolutely no basis for that assumption, aside from possibly too many romance movies.
There is also the assumption that having a new partner lined up before ending it with the previous one makes you a shitty person. It doesn't.
It stings. Trust me I know it does, but it doesn't make her a bad person you should harbor resentment for.
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On August 12 2013 19:29 Killscreen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 08:40 sunprince wrote:On August 10 2013 23:45 BisuEver wrote:On August 10 2013 19:03 sunprince wrote:On August 10 2013 17:46 BisuEver wrote:If this is what one can expect I don't think I want a relationship. Ever. It's like sticking your penis in a blender. I would rather become gay or marry my hand if this is what I could expect. Just terrible people. If you are a shitty person the quality of relationship you can expect will be shitty. Because you have shitty people. Just-world fallacy. If anything, you've got it backwards: being a bad person increases the likelihood that you will be taking advantage of other people rather than the other way around, so if you are a "shitty" person you are less likely to date "shitty" people. No, I'm saying it will be a shitty relationship. There's 2 people in 1. It's like a prisoner's dilemma thing. Either you can be a worse person or they can be a better one. Otherwise you're both in for some shit. Your assumption here is that in any relationship, one partner rises to the level of the other and/or one partner sinks to the level of the other. You have absolutely no basis for that assumption, aside from possibly too many romance movies. There is also the assumption that having a new partner lined up before ending it with the previous one makes you a shitty person. It doesn't.
...if you guys had agreed on a monogamous relationship, that's pretty much the definition of shitty??
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