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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
October 08 2011 20:52 GMT
#41
On October 09 2011 05:37 MattBarry wrote:
It's so stupid for people to get angry about this. 2 Americans does not represent the entire country.

You think it's stupid to get angry about rape? Who cares if they interpret 2 Americans as the entire country, I'm pretty sure having your people raped is something to get angry about regardless of the offenders nationality.
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Sandro
Profile Joined April 2011
897 Posts
October 08 2011 20:53 GMT
#42
On October 09 2011 05:49 stork4ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 05:47 Sandro wrote:
American soldiers shouldn't be allowed outside of their bases.


Lose 28500 customers?

The negligible loss in economy is worth it in the long run so less rapes, hit and runs, murders, robberies, what have you occur.
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
October 08 2011 20:54 GMT
#43
On October 09 2011 05:52 Grobyc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 05:37 MattBarry wrote:
It's so stupid for people to get angry about this. 2 Americans does not represent the entire country.

You think it's stupid to get angry about rape? Who cares if they interpret 2 Americans as the entire country, I'm pretty sure having your people raped is something to get angry about regardless of the offenders nationality.

Angry at America I meant.
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Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
October 08 2011 20:55 GMT
#44
"Absolutely Inexcusable"
"Makes me sad to be an American"
"Hang them"
"Chemical Castration sounds good"

You people are crazy, you don't even know if they did anything. They were ACCUSED, that doesn't mean they actually did anything. It's like 90% of the people in this thread just completely skipped over those key words.
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
October 08 2011 20:56 GMT
#45
On October 09 2011 05:50 koreasilver wrote:

This is why you people are so deluded. North Korea is as threatening as a homeless dog. Their military is largely obsolete. If a war broke out between the two Koreas and no outside force interfered, North Korea would lose without a question. The whole "North Korea is a threat" thing that Americans think and fear so much rises up from pure rhetorical fear-mongering. North Korea isn't keeping sheepish because of American military presence. They're all talk because they know they don't have the capacity to do anything even if they wanted to.


Dont want to make this a NK vs SK but I believe North Korea have nuclear weapons and so anyone with nuclear weapons is a threat as they can make any peace of land unusable for 100s/1000s of years and kill many people.
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 20:57:27
October 08 2011 20:57 GMT
#46
On October 09 2011 05:53 Sandro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 05:49 stork4ever wrote:
On October 09 2011 05:47 Sandro wrote:
American soldiers shouldn't be allowed outside of their bases.


Lose 28500 customers?

The negligible loss in economy is worth it in the long run so less rapes, hit and runs, murders, robberies, what have you occur.

This is implying that soldiers are more likely to commit crimes. If they aren't, then applying your logic we can just lock everybody up if the loss in economy if worth less crimes.
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Enki
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2548 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 20:59:31
October 08 2011 20:57 GMT
#47
Meh, sounds like an isolated incident. This is the first time I have heard of servicemen in Korea being accused of something like this though. People in the service, as well as their children, have done a bunch of horrible shit overseas, look up all the marines who have been arrested in Japan for doing various retarded shit.
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Fus
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1112 Posts
October 08 2011 20:58 GMT
#48
So, this is US military. US should just shut down 7/8 of their military and do something useful with the money, like making free healthcare for everyone. Why does America think they have to control the world?
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semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 20:59:51
October 08 2011 20:59 GMT
#49
On October 09 2011 05:55 Chewbacca. wrote:
"Absolutely Inexcusable"
"Makes me sad to be an American"
"Hang them"
"Chemical Castration sounds good"

You people are crazy, you don't even know if they did anything. They were ACCUSED, that doesn't mean they actually did anything. It's like 90% of the people in this thread just completely skipped over those key words.

Looking into it a little bit at least 1 rape would be under forceful rape, ages 18 woman and 21 solider making chemical castration not valid. But in general something like that is either the woman was raped or not raped, if raped was raped by someone looking foreign or a new recruit ir would be wearing his fatigues which would point to the US, and the US military would limit it to people who were off base during the incident and turn that person over for questioning.

The problem with the op is that it doesn't have the 2 separate stories in good detail.
Ocedic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1808 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 21:01:51
October 08 2011 20:59 GMT
#50
On October 09 2011 05:47 Sandro wrote:
American soldiers shouldn't be allowed outside of their bases.

Also, as a show of good faith, these soldiers should be tried in Korean courts and get sentenced to chemical castration.


Not saying rape should be tolerated, but punishing thousands of soldiers for the actions of 2 is ridiculous. Imagine if you were stationed overseas and not allowed to leave a base for months/years.

What happened was terrible and the soldiers should be punished for their crimes. However, this shouldn't be a reflection of the entire US armed forces.

On October 09 2011 05:54 MattBarry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 05:52 Grobyc wrote:
On October 09 2011 05:37 MattBarry wrote:
It's so stupid for people to get angry about this. 2 Americans does not represent the entire country.

You think it's stupid to get angry about rape? Who cares if they interpret 2 Americans as the entire country, I'm pretty sure having your people raped is something to get angry about regardless of the offenders nationality.

Angry at America I meant.


Everyone does this. Hell, the American media has demonized an entire race/religion for 9/11 and justified a war for doing it. Yes, you need to be level headed and realize that a select group of people do not represent a larger group, but you're basically beating a dead horse by pointing that out in this thread.
cmen15
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1519 Posts
October 08 2011 21:00 GMT
#51
First of all Id like to say that yes this stuff happens all the time when foreign army's stay overseas. Its god terrible and you would hope that this kind of shit wouldn't happen today. Secondly im sorry but this is funny. No i don't think im a bad person for laughing at it, i thought it was a good joke.

On October 09 2011 05:23 jANii_ wrote:
heard a rumor that south korea will react to this by taking a fast gold and do a +2 timing push

Greed leads to just about all losses.
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
October 08 2011 21:02 GMT
#52
On October 09 2011 05:59 semantics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 05:55 Chewbacca. wrote:
"Absolutely Inexcusable"
"Makes me sad to be an American"
"Hang them"
"Chemical Castration sounds good"

You people are crazy, you don't even know if they did anything. They were ACCUSED, that doesn't mean they actually did anything. It's like 90% of the people in this thread just completely skipped over those key words.

Looking into it a little bit at least 1 rape would be under forceful rape, ages 18 woman and 21 solider making chemical castration not valid. But in general something like that is either the woman was raped or not raped, if raped was raped by someone looking foreign or a new recruit ir would be wearing his fatigues which would point to the US, and the US military would limit it to people who were off base during the incident and turn that person over for questioning.

The problem with the op is that it doesn't have the 2 separate stories in good detail.


??? Sorry but I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say in this post at all... :/
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Citrustea
Profile Joined September 2011
15 Posts
October 08 2011 21:02 GMT
#53
On October 09 2011 05:59 semantics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 05:55 Chewbacca. wrote:
"Absolutely Inexcusable"
"Makes me sad to be an American"
"Hang them"
"Chemical Castration sounds good"

You people are crazy, you don't even know if they did anything. They were ACCUSED, that doesn't mean they actually did anything. It's like 90% of the people in this thread just completely skipped over those key words.

Looking into it a little bit at least 1 rape would be under forceful rape, ages 18 woman and 21 solider making chemical castration not valid. But in general something like that is either the woman was raped or not raped, if raped was raped by someone looking foreign or a new recruit ir would be wearing his fatigues which would point to the US, and the US military would limit it to people who were off base during the incident and turn that person over for questioning.

The problem with the op is that it doesn't have the 2 separate stories in good detail.


Which basically led to this thread becoming another bash america and their military thread. Until those soldiers are PROVEN guilty, I would hope to see team liquid members be a little more open minded. But that ain't happening since it seems the only thing that they learned in school was how to mindlessly bash america.
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
October 08 2011 21:03 GMT
#54
On October 09 2011 06:02 solidbebe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 05:59 semantics wrote:
On October 09 2011 05:55 Chewbacca. wrote:
"Absolutely Inexcusable"
"Makes me sad to be an American"
"Hang them"
"Chemical Castration sounds good"

You people are crazy, you don't even know if they did anything. They were ACCUSED, that doesn't mean they actually did anything. It's like 90% of the people in this thread just completely skipped over those key words.

Looking into it a little bit at least 1 rape would be under forceful rape, ages 18 woman and 21 solider making chemical castration not valid. But in general something like that is either the woman was raped or not raped, if raped was raped by someone looking foreign or a new recruit ir would be wearing his fatigues which would point to the US, and the US military would limit it to people who were off base during the incident and turn that person over for questioning.

The problem with the op is that it doesn't have the 2 separate stories in good detail.


??? Sorry but I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say in this post at all... :/


LOL I know. I saw he replied to my post so I was going to reply back...but I have no idea what he is trying to say.
Bolognatroll
Profile Joined May 2011
United States32 Posts
October 08 2011 21:03 GMT
#55
On October 09 2011 05:58 Fus wrote:
So, this is US military. US should just shut down 7/8 of their military and do something useful with the money, like making free healthcare for everyone. Why does America think they have to control the world?


I completely agree with you. From the USA i am.

It's just that corporations control the minds of the people here, and much profiteering is to be made in the war & gun industry. It's a shame.

How they control the minds of the people is both complex and simple.
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WightyCity
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada887 Posts
October 08 2011 21:03 GMT
#56
i hope its not true. maybe there was a error in communication. if they did do it. shame on them
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rockerman101
Profile Joined June 2011
United States85 Posts
October 08 2011 21:03 GMT
#57
god its horrible that we have soldiers doing this shit
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24690 Posts
October 08 2011 21:05 GMT
#58
On October 09 2011 05:58 Fus wrote:
So, this is US military. US should just shut down 7/8 of their military and do something useful with the money, like making free healthcare for everyone. Why does America think they have to control the world?

The US military is often relied upon by other countries to do things (for example, recently Libya).

Maybe this isn't ideal for the world, nor for the USA, but it's not just the USA's fault.
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APurpleCow
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1372 Posts
October 08 2011 21:06 GMT
#59
To be honest, I don't really see what the big deal is...

Unless I'm reading this wrong, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics#United_States says there are ~28 cases of rape in the US/100,000 people per year.

With 30,000 soldiers there, some rapes will occur.
kirdie
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany221 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 21:07:44
October 08 2011 21:06 GMT
#60
I find this kind of stupid. People do all kinds of crime but just because the two were soldiers the headline is now "U.S. solders did such and such." There are black sheep everywhere but as long as the rate of crime done by U.S. soldiers is not higher than that of the others it's highly illogical to conclude somehow that all of them are like that...

P.S.: I also think that the US is there to help south korea else they wouldnt even be there anymore...
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