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Noli
United Kingdom179 Posts
On October 09 2011 05:25 SpiritAshura wrote: Shut up. Absolutely awful, these 2 soldiers will pay for their actions however. Stupid people like this don't help the United States military's image. USA military has a reputation now? What kind of overly censored media do you watch... | ||
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BarbieHsu
574 Posts
Horrifying, both the allegation and the logic in this thread. @toodarkpark: A diplomat is a spy, above all else. EDIT: "white man's burden" is Kipling's line | ||
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gullberg
Sweden1301 Posts
On October 09 2011 21:45 Noli wrote: USA military has a reputation now? What kind of overly censored media do you watch... They have a very bad reputation in S.Korea, yes. | ||
Milkis
5003 Posts
On October 09 2011 15:43 totii wrote: Milkis, you brought me out of lurking here. Something about your post bothered me, so I did a little research: (at http://seoul.usembassy.gov/p_june13acc.html) You said Korean law enforcement can't do anything about GIs Compare that with Korean military, whose soldiers are 100% exempt from civil courts, in Korea and in any other country they are stationed. Additionally, in that website it actually lays out the facts of the case you specifically mentioned: the two soldiers were charged with criminal negligence, which is the most they could prove in two trials. Public apologies came from every level of the chain of command, including the president. Perhaps this still isn't justice to you, but it is the arrangement the South Korean government has agreed on. In the end, none of this excuses any rape. However, you should still refrain from posting hearsay. This is only my second post because I would rather just lurk than flame people over nothing. People respect you and I'd hate for them to just accept your post as truth. TL;DR -+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://fastcache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2008/02/xkcdwrongoninternet.jpg) Ah, I see. My impression, and impression of most of the Koreans are quite different regarding this. | ||
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iLikeRain
Denmark504 Posts
On October 09 2011 05:37 MattBarry wrote: It's so stupid for people to get angry about this. 2 Americans does not represent the entire country. Unfortunately a lot of people are too blinded by rage or emotion to look past this. This is basically the same as saying that all imigrants in developed countries are criminals or outlaws. It portrays a pathetic and low state of mind, that sadly, a lot of people seem to have. | ||
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FecalFrown
215 Posts
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pedduck
Thailand468 Posts
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ihateplexa
United States2 Posts
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Zergneedsfood
United States10671 Posts
On October 09 2011 22:20 pedduck wrote: I think we should see it as two asshole raped inocent people. Them being us or korean is kinda irrelevent. I agree with this. Nationality doesn't automatically cause people to act in one way or another (at least in terms of turning them into rapists). Also, I'm saddened that people immediately jump to conclusions even though the two soldiers were "accused" and not found guilty. I reserve judgement when the verdict finally hits. | ||
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Jongl0
631 Posts
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weekendracer
United States37 Posts
On October 09 2011 05:58 Fus wrote: So, this is US military. US should just shut down 7/8 of their military and do something useful with the money, like making free healthcare for everyone. Why does America think they have to control the world? Why does the US stick it's nose everywhere? Because the rest of the world wants us there and we've taken over the role of protector of everyone else. I don't agree with it, but it IS the current situation until it can be altered. Our military is the same as our population, a lot of really good people with a few truly rotten apples mixed into group. I've been 'accused' of some bad things in 11 years of law enforcement. None of them were true and I was exonerated in the end. Let the courts figure it out, if they are guilty, bury them. If the girls are shown to be lying, charge them with false accusation/libel/slander and punish them accordingly. | ||
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hmunkey
United Kingdom1973 Posts
On October 09 2011 05:58 Fus wrote: So, this is US military. US should just shut down 7/8 of their military and do something useful with the money, like making free healthcare for everyone. Why does America think they have to control the world? You know the rest of the world's governments want American bases in their country, right? The US is basically the muscle for most of the first world to the point that it hurts US citizens (not enough money for other things like healthcare) and helps foreign citizens. Look at countries like Poland and Finland -- they are basically right next to the giant that is Russia yet they spend almost nothing on defense. Why? The US has bases and is willing to flex their strength to protect other countries' sovereignty. The same applies for Korea and Japan. The popular sentiment is very anti-American in terms of wanting bases there, but the government knows that the US stationing entire battalions is a bigger deterrent to NK and China than anything they could themselves do. It's free protection at the expense of Americans. And the kicker? America doesn't even control the countries they have bases in like you think -- Korea gets a lot more out of the US than the other way around. | ||
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EventHorizoN
Germany101 Posts
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Zuxo
Sweden395 Posts
On October 09 2011 23:08 weekendracer wrote: Why does the US stick it's nose everywhere? Because the rest of the world wants us there and we've taken over the role of protector of everyone else. I don't agree with it, but it IS the current situation until it can be altered. . hahahahahaahaa | ||
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Duban
United States548 Posts
On October 09 2011 23:49 hmunkey wrote: You know the rest of the world's governments want American bases in their country, right? The US is basically the muscle for most of the first world to the point that it hurts US citizens (not enough money for other things like healthcare) and helps foreign citizens. Look at countries like Poland and Finland -- they are basically right next to the giant that is Russia yet they spend almost nothing on defense. Why? The US has bases and is willing to flex their strength to protect other countries' sovereignty. The same applies for Korea and Japan. The popular sentiment is very anti-American in terms of wanting bases there, but the government knows that the US stationing entire battalions is a bigger deterrent to NK and China than anything they could themselves do. It's free protection at the expense of Americans. And the kicker? America doesn't even control the countries they have bases in like you think -- Korea gets a lot more out of the US than the other way around. I'm not sure it's entirely at the expense of America. They have been useful for projecting military force across the globe and logistics. It's been the age of America "World Police" for some time, for better or for worse. | ||
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EtherealBlade
660 Posts
On October 09 2011 23:08 weekendracer wrote: Why does the US stick it's nose everywhere? Because the rest of the world wants us there and we've taken over the role of protector of everyone else. I don't agree with it, but it IS the current situation until it can be altered. Wow that's one of the most ignorant statements I've read lately. The same could be said about Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union during and after WW2 then. Of course the US is no tyrant, no no, hahaha we all know that. | ||
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BradfordLove
42 Posts
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Half
United States2554 Posts
It's so stupid for people to get angry about this. 2 Americans does not represent the entire country. lol they don't need to represent anyone, they raped two 20 year old women, thats kinda enough to get angry about in itself. | ||
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djmeat
United States3 Posts
On October 10 2011 00:18 Muki wrote: Wow that's one of the most ignorant statements I've read lately. The same could be said about Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union during and after WW2 then. Of course the US is no tyrant, no no, hahaha we all know that. I lold. User was banned for this post. | ||
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blackone
Germany1314 Posts
On October 10 2011 00:18 Muki wrote: Wow that's one of the most ignorant statements I've read lately. The same could be said about Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union during and after WW2 then. Of course the US is no tyrant, no no, hahaha we all know that. In fact, the USA are what saved us (Europe) from Nazi Germany. Disgusting comparison. | ||
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