EPTBulgarian Riots - Page 13
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
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cellblock
Sweden206 Posts
When our bathroom was getting repaired we had to use the gypsies one. Even though they had moved out already, the fucking smell in the apartment was sickening. Ive never smelled anything that bad before, like dead animal mixed with piss and shit. If you see a beggar on the streets in bigger towns here, then its 99% a gypsy. They tend to hand out red roses for free to people on the streets, but want you to pay after you recieved it. Ive noticed that its only their women and children begging, which is sad. They need to learn how to adapt to a modern society. | ||
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Coulthard
Greece3359 Posts
A few months ago some old gypsy women asked me money,I opened my wallet to give them a few coins and they stole from my wallet a 50 euro bill,it was so fast I couldnt react. Last year they beat a student so badly the guy barely made it alive and yet the police acts like they dont exist. Some gypsies in my town take off the skin from small animals just for fun,it is the most disgusting thing you can see. Gypsies are parasites and whoever says the opposite simply doesnt have any of them in their country.I dont see any solution to this problem since we are living in an age where they f*ck us in the ass and we cant do nothing about it. | ||
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speedphlux
Bulgaria962 Posts
On September 28 2011 02:31 Nikon wrote: Rofl, apparently, several people that are 75+ years old were arrested for hooliganism. They took part in a peaceful protest in the capitol. This is some kind of a grotesque joke. Nah, this is the Police State our Prime Minister - Boko The Pumpkin (because he has the IQ of a pumpkin (NOTE : If any pumpkins feel offended from this compare, please forgive me)) and his BFF - Tzv-Tzv, have created. As for those 75+ years old hooligans that got arrested ... well, I've seen some very naughty 75+ years old, so I'm sure those deserved it :D Hooliganism doesn't knows age mate, just like stupidity :D | ||
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HaiVan
Bulgaria1698 Posts
On September 28 2011 00:30 Probe1 wrote: Edit: Estimated Roma population of US- 50k Estimated Roma population of Bulgaria- 75k :\ and thieving gypsys are like the very least of our social problems. Where the hell did you come up with those ridiculous estimates, seriously dude you're a joke. | ||
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pred470r
Bulgaria3265 Posts
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blahblahblahwhatever
Armenia52 Posts
I don't care if it's 1943 again or whatever, this is the objective truth, no matter how much you hate it and hate me for saying it. And tens of millions of eastern europeans will tell you the exact same thing. | ||
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Deleted User 183001
2939 Posts
Fact of the matter is those people don't want to be integrated into society, and live off of crime and government welfare. Of course, a few aren't going to follow this behavior and ideology, but the overwhelming majority does. Probably not as violent as Kurds (killings of Christians in northern Iraq even in the present day come to mind, nevermind the Armenian and Assyrians genocides), but at least a greater number of Kurds seem to be interested in being a part of Turkish, Iraqi, and Iranian society than gypsies are in their respective countries of residence afaik. On September 27 2011 21:18 Passion wrote: Why do you deem this comparison so far fetched? The step from deportation to extermination isn't THAT huge. It both starts with the idea that these people don't have the right to live (here). Edit: This pravda site is a complete joke. Nice example: http://english.pravda.ru/world/africa/23-09-2011/119133-libya_terrorists-0/ In ancient and medieval times, deportations were common in order to keep order in conquered lands and move about rowdy populations. Rarely did they end up in killing people. So, it isn't one step away. More like a few light years. make them a country!, you know, like Israel because they come from nowhere (unless you count old India as a valid target for deportation) Last I checked, those Jews came from Poland, Germany, USSR, etc. They came from somewhere, and that's pretty much where they came from originally. In most ancient Semitic pagan religions, most famously Judaism and Assyrian religion, their gods told them that their land belongs to them. Since Judaism spread to Europe through proselytizing, many native northern/eastern Europeans who adopted judaism of course will believe that their god mandates that ancient Canaan is their land, even considering they have no ancestry of people from that time and place at that. Even if they were Mideastern people, it would still be pretty ridiculous to claim that some land is theirs because their god said so. rofl. Also, don't compare Judaism to the gypsies. You're comparing a religious ideology to an ethnicity. It doesn't exactly work. | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
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Gigaudas
Sweden1213 Posts
scary as fuck thread though | ||
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WickedSkies
Netherlands81 Posts
http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2011/06/the_netherlands_to_delay_roman.phpabout In my honest opinion this is due to the fact that as far as Western Europe is conserned, Bulgarian and Romanian nationals are in fact the gypsies that live in France, Germany, the Netherlands or any other Western European country. The sole fact that we are perceived as gypsies is very offending to me, but the negative image that Bulgarian and Romanian gypsies create across whole Europe is undeniable. As far as I see, soon in my country gypsy population is going to become dominant, it is already 9%, coupled with the fact that an average gypsy family has 9+ children and an average Bulgarian family has 1- and every 2-nd young Bulgarian goes abroad. As for the violence and the riots in Bulgaria, I can clearly see the frustration of a nation where people with 2 masters degrees can't find a job, where corruption is commonplace and where money is the idol. Gypsies are not THE problem that caused the current situation, other than the negative image they create to the rest of Europe. HOWEVER, in my opinion, the riots and the violence that are now taking place, create even a worse image of Bulgaria and I don't think they can be excused. Comeon, we live in the 21-th century, doing openly racist and extremist deeds is hardly the way to go and will be hardly any help in making the rest of Europe accept us among its members with open arms. Shame on my country for that. | ||
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Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
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AnachronisticAnarchy
United States2957 Posts
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dubRa
2165 Posts
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Slegg
Czech Republic75 Posts
We dont hate them because of their race, we hate them because the extreme majority of them live the type of life described here many times already (leeching on social support while avoiding work, having childern for more money from the state). Luckily we dont have this clan/baron stuff here in Czech rep. so I cant say more about that. There is about 3% unemployment rate in Czech Republic and 70% of that are gypsies (can't prove it sadly, it was a research I saw long time ago and I can't remember where). The other side of this coin is that the gypsy kids are probably raised with hatred towards white people (and being the minority they express their hatred more loudly, its not uncommon for a group of 10 gypsies to beat up a white kid here just because he was alone in the wrong place at the wrong time) aswell so I really dont see any easy solution. So to answer your question AnachronisticAnarchy, we dont have bad apples, we have the occasional good apples which are sadly probably going to be having a harder time proving themselves to society because of what all the other gypsies do. | ||
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sunprince
United States2258 Posts
The OP's source, Pravda, is a formerly-Soviet tabloid. Can we get some reputable sources in here instead? | ||
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NexuS 321
Bulgaria2 Posts
doing openly racist and extremist deeds is hardly the way to go and will be hardly any help in making the rest of Europe accept us among its members with open arms. Shame on my country for that. You know very well that our homeland has done enough during these last 20 years.People barely can pay their taxes and live with what they have left from their 150 euro monthly salary ( average salary amount for Bulgaria). Our taxes go to senior citizens that have earned their pensions and to the gypsyes. "Surprisingly" most of the money go to the gypsyes, especially around election times because they've proven time and time again that they'll sell their vote to anyone that gives them 5-15 euros per person.Corrupt politicians ,low monthly salaries ,a health system that's sicker than most people ... I can go on if you'd like? The Roma for the most part are a problem we've learned to live with.We didn't like them but for the most part we didn't hate them either...They've raided villages of about 200 people across the country, stealing pensions of people who live on 35-50 euros per month, ransacking their houses and lets not forget the rapes, human trafficking and homicides.But still we managed to live with them "in the name of ethnic peace" ... And the anger and disapointment has been stacking during all that time. This was the last straw for many people that are protesting and rioting. Roma have gotten away with murder for far too long. Don't trus me? Google it. It's all on the web. Don't blame bulgarians for what's happening at this time. The roma have brought this upon themselves. Through arrogance (politicians buy their votes and they came to feel more important than they really are) and violence and as the saying goes " what goes around comes around". We've been made to feel like strangers in our own country that we've lived in for more than 1300 years. You can't expect an opressed nation to stay down forever.The government and the governments of the past have neglected us so that they can keep the roma happy and voting. People say they've had enough, and that's true. Most of you haven't lived here to see what's to have it bad. Some of you know what's like living with gypsyes but believe, untill you walk a mile in our shoes your oppinions on the matter wether what's going on is wrong or right, don't really matter.I'm sorry I don't mean to offend anyone, I'm just telling it like it is... | ||
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bonifaceviii
Canada2890 Posts
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hgt1002
Hungary30 Posts
On September 28 2011 04:56 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote: Just a quick question: are the bad apples of the gypsies comparable to say, drug cartels in Mexico on a smaller scale? Just a question for the guys who actually have to deal with them as I live in America. no. drug cartels are well organized, effective, acting in order to reach a certain goal. gypsys are the exact opposite, as that is what they missing out the most. they unorganized following their own law only (romani kris), extremely uneffective with even such basic issues as sustaining themselves and only just floating in the chaos they create around themselves. | ||
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vasatko2
Czech Republic28 Posts
I think it's because you just can't imagine who gypsies really are. Here is a picture of one demosled house by gypsies ![[image loading]](http://www.mrk.cz/Data/Pics/2010/442136_2c85d.jpg) And here is classical gypsy behavior - even in TV | ||
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