EPTYou could call them a symtpom of your goverments failure....
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Velr
Switzerland10854 Posts
You could call them a symtpom of your goverments failure.... | ||
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MyNameIsAlex
Greece827 Posts
On September 28 2011 06:26 Velr wrote: Sounds like countries with corruption issues allow gypsys to "prosper" which leads to a ton of other problems. You could call them a symtpom of your goverments failure.... This is true based on what I have seen on my own country, organized governments usually dont allow them in, or make it difficult for them, or just plain deport them. | ||
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krasytod
Bulgaria7 Posts
On September 27 2011 23:29 Probe1 wrote: krasytod when did protest turn into ![[image loading]](http://www.novinite.com/media/images/2011-09/photo_verybig_132364.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ktxbE.jpg) After this : "Roma Stolipinovo left with orange bus "Ford Transit" to protect Rashkovi in which ran over 19-year Angel Petrov, while walking his dog. Witnesses say the car hit the youth and drag it a few feet, then the driver fled in an unknown direction." and this: "Minutes later Katunitsa men began to gather in front of houses Rashkovi. Arrived on the spot and two policemen from the area in Sadovo. After about an hour the van appeared again and crashed into formations cordon of people. Ran over two people and pushed the police and then hid in the yard of the daughter of Tsar Kir" the original translated with google When someone treats you as NPC from Carmageddon and the police dare not to intervene, the only thing you can do is to resist. | ||
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n00b3rt
Bulgaria890 Posts
On September 28 2011 06:26 Velr wrote: Sounds like countries with corruption issues allow gypsys to "prosper" which leads to a ton of other problems. You could call them a symtpom of your goverments failure.... As I mentioned in a previous post, gypsies mean 1 million votes for the party that pays 3 meatballs, so the government is behind a lot of this. Still countries with corruption issues are also the ... let's call them weaker countries. Italy and France can't integrate gypsies, but they are strong enough to deport their gypsies without being called racist. Eastern European countries cannot afford that  So it's a more complex problem | ||
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Psychobabas
2531 Posts
We just bought some fast food when this Roma woman carrying a baby just calmly grabbed half of my friends french fries as he was carrying his food on the tray and she then just walked off like nothing happened. Try to integrate that. I double dare you! | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France7989 Posts
On September 27 2011 21:32 aTnClouD wrote: dude you have no idea how wicked gypsies are. they are a true plague to humanity and only the people living in countries who have them understand. ask bulgarians, romanians, french or italian people they will all tell you the same. I don't have any problem with gypsies to be honest. So I guess that's a bit of a wild statement. | ||
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JohnnyReverb
Switzerland132 Posts
On September 28 2011 06:47 Biff The Understudy wrote: I don't have any problem with gypsies to be honest. So I guess that's a bit of a wild statement. no its not. im originally from focsani, vrancea, in romania, and you simply dont know what you are talking about! again, those people who didnt use to live with them, should just listen to people from hungary, bulgaria, especially from romania. - you never had to beaten up 3-4 kids only avoiding not to be pushed into a corner with more scumms waiting for you - you never ever have seen such big trash houses and the conditions that they are living in, but they dont want to change at all - you never have been pickpocked in the bus corner, carefully watching everything around you! - you never find a such cleverness from roma kids, or roma in general - and you never have seen such brutality from men, who got nothing to loose edit: and i forgot: in romania when you see a bmw x5 or an audi s8, its 50/50 that a rich gipsy would sit in. but would they share ? no the hell ! not a bit. romania is a country where money rules, harder and deeper than in other countries. just talk with people from greece or italy or bulgaria, romania, hungary... you will find the similar opinions! | ||
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WickedSkies
Netherlands81 Posts
On September 28 2011 06:47 Biff The Understudy wrote: I don't have any problem with gypsies to be honest. So I guess that's a bit of a wild statement. I have spent 18 years in Plovdiv, the city where Stolipinovo is, one of the largest gypsy communities in Bulgaria. There is a bridge, under which there are underage gypsy prostitutes. I am pretty open to prostitution, hell I live in the Netherlands now, but some of the girls under that bridge are way under 18. Also, the fact that I have had 3 radios stolen out of my car when I have parked it there speaks pretty much for itself. I have seen gypsy crowds in buses surround an unsuspecting victim and relief him of his/her wallet and other possessions without him/her noticing. I have seen the houses they live in, they are mostly in gross condition, roofs leaking, cockroaches running around, holes in the walls, hay on the floor, junk cluttering everything. Their children don't go to school and are forced to beg/steal/rummage in garbage bins or just hang around. Illiteracy is commonplace, so is crime and violence. They don't pay for electricity/water and sometimes have a friggin HORSE/GOAT living in their house. But! We are in Europe, nobody should be above the law, nobody should take the law in their hands, unless their name is Chuck, Silvester, Bruce or Arnold. In that sense the murder of the 19-th old should be punishable by law and the person responsible for that should be held accountable, regardless of race. Not held accountable by an angry mob with torches but held accountable in court and then put in jail. Our judicial system is very corrupt and flawed but handling this delicate case can be a test to it to prove that we do belong to Europe. P.S. Once the trial is finished, the guy goes to jail. Media is happy, justice is served, and you know what happens to the gypsy in jail...That is how the issue should be resolved, and not with stupid angry youngsters running around with torches and getting themselves to jail. | ||
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BlazingGlory
Bulgaria855 Posts
The gypsies are not at fault here, the Bulgarians are. And its too late to be fixed. Impossible. My dream is to get done in with Accidental Infringement and when i wake up to get my Violent Retribution I get to see the brighter future. On the brighter side thanks to gypsies that stole my car and some of the furniture and electronics at my place, I had to buy new ones. Aint I a lucky guy. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France7989 Posts
On September 28 2011 07:01 JohnnyReverb wrote: no its not. im originally from focsani, vrancea, in romania, and you simply dont know what you are talking about! again, those people who didnt use to live with them, should just listen to people from hungary, bulgaria, especially from romania. - you never had to beaten up 3-4 kids only avoiding not to be pushed into a corner with more scumms waiting for you - you never ever have seen such big trash houses and the conditions that they are living in, but they dont want to change at all - you never have been pickpocked in the bus corner, carefully watching everything around you! - you never find a such cleverness from roma kids, or roma in general - and you never have seen such brutality from men, who got nothing to loose edit: and i forgot: in romania when you see a bmw x5 or an audi s8, its 50/50 that a rich gipsy would sit in. but would they share ? no the hell ! not a bit. romania is a country where money rules, harder and deeper than in other countries. just talk with people from greece or italy or bulgaria, romania, hungary... you will find the similar opinions! I won't start to argue with anybody in that thread because I will end up saying what I think and I will get banned because it's not nice. So I just make one remark: One day you guys all learn to make the distinction between correlation and causality. That day, 99% of humanity's problem are solved. Good luck. | ||
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Manimal_pro
Romania991 Posts
http://www.220.ro/documentare/Copiii-Tigani-Cersetori-Din-Romania/mFwSS2l2pw/ | ||
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kaisen
United States601 Posts
On September 28 2011 04:56 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote: Just a quick question: are the bad apples of the gypsies comparable to say, drug cartels in Mexico on a smaller scale? Just a question for the guys who actually have to deal with them as I live in America. That's a pretty stupid comparison. Drug cartels are organized crime organizations. It's no different from other criminal organizations from Russia, china, Italy, or wherever. The term gypsies is not an organization, but people. | ||
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iAmSoSly
Netherlands13 Posts
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Manimal_pro
Romania991 Posts
On September 28 2011 06:34 Psychobabas wrote: My most memorable encounter with a Roma gypsie was in Athens (when I lived there). We just bought some fast food when this Roma woman carrying a baby just calmly grabbed half of my friends french fries as he was carrying his food on the tray and she then just walked off like nothing happened. Try to integrate that. I double dare you! they do it because they know that 99 % of westerns will not react violently as they are not accustomed with their nature. If someone does that in romania i would crush their face with my elbow, not because i'm a violent man, but because we cannot afford to tolerate such behaviors | ||
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
THESE PROTESTS ARE NOT BUILT ON ETHNIC DIFFERENCES There are several gypsy families in Katunitsa, but the only one that is problematic is the family of Kiril Rashkov. Anything else is provocateurs planted in peaceful protests and political parties trying to ride the conflict. Just FYI, the next elections over here are in less than a month. | ||
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NeonFox
2373 Posts
If stealing money from handicaped people this way is not sick, I don't know what is. | ||
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Orcasgt24
Canada3238 Posts
The gypsie problem? What problem? The one where you treat a group of people like crap for 500 years and now you wanna get rid of them? The problem is you. Maybe if they had a chance to live normally noone would care. | ||
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MozoM
France71 Posts
Only thing i know about them is that they fake handicap to beg on the streets and they steal everything they can, even railroads. There probably a good amount of them who live peacefully, but the minority acting criminally is a fucking plague. The gypsie problem? What problem? The one where you treat a group of people like crap for 500 years and now you wanna get rid of them? The problem is you. Maybe if they had a chance to live normally noone would care. Easy to say when you're not confronted with it. A group of people traveling from a country/city to another, without respecting laws isn't right. | ||
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Orcasgt24
Canada3238 Posts
On September 28 2011 08:26 MozoM wrote: Funny thing is that french governementt pays roms when they are expulsed back to Romania a lot of money, but they come back in weeks, turning it to a new business. Only thing i know about them is that they fake handicap to beg on the streets and they steal everything they can, even railroads. There probably a good amount of them who live peacefully, but the minority acting criminally is a fucking plague. No worse then the non gypsies that rob banks and scam people. I garuntee that gypsy criminality is only a fraction of your total crime. But because they are gypsys people give a fuck and are upset. | ||
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MozoM
France71 Posts
But because they are gypsys people give a fuck and are upset. French criminals didn't purposely choose to be born in France to be criminals, but gypsys are coming to Paris especially to do that, so yeah, we got to be upset. | ||
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