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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Okay I'll admit it's funny and the dude is being a dick and the cops in London are very patient it seems. | ||
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Emporio
United States3069 Posts
On November 20 2011 02:33 H0i wrote: Assaulting people because they want their freedom is not an atrocity? And you seriously suggest calling something like this an atrocity is insulting to victims of other atrocities? Really? ... Search for that Syria video thats been reposted on reddit, currently frontpage. It's totally NSFL as a warning, depicting people dying and heads split open. I'm not completely sure of the context but from what I've gathered this is a random killing of citizens that just happens to keep fear in their hearts. I'm all for being sympathetic to people who are actually victims of police brutality, but merely being hit with a baton reallly needs to be taken in context. This is a thought I've started having about these whole debates. If you're so pissed off about how police act and how stupid they are and how they completely overreact, why not become a police officer yourself and act the way you want them to act. Plus the job is actually a pretty nice one in and of itself since you get a good pension and such. You solve two problems: How police act and people not having jobs. | ||
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Xearilo
United States2 Posts
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Sermokala
United States13935 Posts
On November 20 2011 02:51 TruthIsCold wrote: From browsing through this thread, I can tell that StealthBlue is a big fan of the "cops are brutalizing people" angle. I'm wondering if he gets this kind of stuff emailed to him, or if he searches for it online. You are right, when people refuse to follow lawful police orders, the police have NO CHOICE but to use force to enforce the law. If I was a part of this movement, I would take some fucking personal responsibility for my behavior. I would say, "yes, they told me to leave, and yes, I stayed, knowing full well there was a chance I would get gassed or jabbed or pushed or arrested. I knowingly took that risk, so I have no right to whine about it occurring." But we all know that isn't how the victimization train is run. To be frank they are. People don't have another option that they've giving the cops and then they want to bitch when they pepper spray people and hit them with batons. People won't beat the cops they'll get backed up by the national guard and thats when things get really bad. "does anyone have water?" HAHAHA water will make the pepper spray worse. That guy has a painball gun at 4:00? The people where getting mob like and so they got togeather and slowly left. they didn't do anything wrong but hey. The whole "its our university" is really werid. Where did that come from? Its not true in any way and yes they do get a pension that they've paid into their whole career. The cops are just following orders. That guy in Britain will probably get a lot of views so he isn't stupid I'll give him that but he really lose's me when he talked about the Nuremberg trials. The people who where there where accused of mass murder not beating and pepper spraying protesters. Do people actually think they're is going to be a revolution? The larger urban cities can do a lot of things but there is a lot of people that live in the rual area that lets just say have different political views then the people who live in the city. people I belive completely overestimate the capabilities of city folk to preform a revolution. In times of strife the rednecks will stick to their guns(literally), their bibles, and their families. They're will be conflict between the 2 populations if they is going to be a revolution and I just don't see how it could possibly go in the urban populations favor. | ||
Falling
Canada11350 Posts
It's Captain Ray Lewis, retired police chief of Philadelphia who joined the protest and expressed his thoughts on the use of force. They arrested him too. This has popped up on several news sites: Lobby firm memo to undermine OWC Basically looking to spend $850K to run a smear campaign on the OWC movement. I'm sure this will be denied outright. However, anyone that has a vested interest in the current lobby system would look to undermine the movement by any means necessary. | ||
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screamingpalm
United States1527 Posts
On November 20 2011 04:15 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Dg5pxlvqkY + Show Spoiler + Okay I'll admit it's funny and the dude is being a dick and the cops in London are very patient it seems. Hey I think that's one of the "Everything is OK" guys lol. Check out the montage video I posted earlier in the thread... funny stuff (they were the ones with the megaphone). That one is Danny I think, they had parted ways when he took a more militant approach where Charlie advocates a more non-violent method. They have a lot of good videos on youtube.  | ||
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zEMPd
Angola259 Posts
On November 20 2011 04:46 Xearilo wrote: Check out this video at UCDavis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwEZf2uUQuM I lol'd a few times, looking at all of the people recording the situation on their iPads. | ||
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screamingpalm
United States1527 Posts
This has popped up on several news sites: Lobby firm memo to undermine OWC Basically looking to spend $850K to run a smear campaign on the OWC movement. I'm sure this will be denied outright. However, anyone that has a vested interest in the current lobby system would look to undermine the movement by any means necessary. That video deseves embedding :D Although, I'm sure there are similar memos floating around with Obama's staff. | ||
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Reaper9
United States1724 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
Just stop hitting people, especially when it's old women showing a court order. | ||
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Pleiades
United States472 Posts
On November 20 2011 20:06 WhiteDog wrote: The police is full of retards, they will kill someone eventually and the protest will go apeshit... Just stop hitting people, especially when it's old women showing a court order. Going to be a sad day if people start martyring themselves. | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On November 20 2011 20:17 Pleiades wrote: Going to be a sad day if people start martyring themselves. That's not martyring... that's just the policemen who don't know how to restrain themselves. Did you see the blood on the old women's dress? What if she just fall and bang her head on the floor ? | ||
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Pleiades
United States472 Posts
On November 20 2011 20:20 WhiteDog wrote: That's not martyring... that's just the policemen who don't know how to restrain themselves. Did you see the blood on the old women's dress? What if she just triple and bang her head on the floor ? Maybe I should rephrase what I said, Going to be a sad day when and if people start martyring themselves. | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On November 20 2011 20:22 Pleiades wrote: Maybe I should rephrase what I said, Going to be a sad day when and if people start martyring themselves. I don't understand your point man, death happen everyday for no fucking reason, and in this specific situation you got to be really precocious. A martyr is someone who chose to die for his beliefs, I'm not talking about that at all, just a ridiculous mystake. That's what happened in 1968 in France. | ||
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Pleiades
United States472 Posts
Hopefully it doesn't come to that with these protests, but you never know depending on how desperate people may get. Although I understand and agree to some points of the movement, I don't agree to some of the actions made by it. | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On November 20 2011 20:34 Pleiades wrote: What I mean is, OWS stems from the ideas of the Arab world protests. The turning point of those revolutions began when people would rather die than to live in oppression, by committing suicide in the belief of that. Their deaths brought a message so strong and fast that it's horrifying that the citizens the government are supposed to serve would rather die than live another day under their rule. Hopefully it doesn't come to that with these protests, but you never know depending on how desperate people may get. Although I understand and agree to some points of the movement, I don't agree to some of the actions made by it. I understand what you are saying, but let's not even try to forsee how some people might eventually use the death of someone in a way that could possibly turn people in martyr... I was just saying, stop with the violence, a tragedy can happen really fast, especially when you consider that some people in those protests are quite old. | ||
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H0i
Netherlands484 Posts
On November 20 2011 20:34 Pleiades wrote: What I mean is, OWS stems from the ideas of the Arab world protests. The turning point of those revolutions began when people would rather die than to live in oppression, by committing suicide in the belief of that. Their deaths brought a message so strong and fast that it's horrifying that the citizens the government are supposed to serve would rather die than live another day under their rule. Hopefully it doesn't come to that with these protests, but you never know depending on how desperate people may get. Although I understand and agree to some points of the movement, I don't agree to some of the actions made by it. Those people are not asking to be killed by a cop. But it might happen. That veteran who was hit by a rubber bullet and some other "non lethal weapons" from the cops (for no good reason) is still in the hospital, and maybe still in life danger (at least he was for quite a while). | ||
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Ungrateful
United States71 Posts
On November 20 2011 22:43 H0i wrote: Those people are not asking to be killed by a cop. But it might happen. That veteran who was hit by a rubber bullet and some other "non lethal weapons" from the cops (for no good reason) is still in the hospital, and maybe still in life danger (at least he was for quite a while). Play with fire and you are going to get burned.. All this shows now is OWS is a bunch of narcissists doing anything for attention. No one would cover there 99% theory anymore so now they are trying police brutality. | ||
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seppolevne
Canada1681 Posts
On November 21 2011 01:52 Ungrateful wrote: Play with fire and you are going to get burned.. All this shows now is OWS is a bunch of narcissists doing anything for attention. No one would cover there 99% theory anymore so now they are trying police brutality. A bunch of narcissists? I'm pretty sure it's a group of people that have realised that your country is a fucking hellhole and want to change it for the better, to make everyone a little better off. That sounds like the opposite of narcissism, actually. edit: Are you fucking serious? "characterized by a lack of empathy, a willingness to exploit others, and an inflated sense of self-importance" is pretty much exactly why all these people are fucked, and THEY are the narcissists? What the fuck goes on in your brain? | ||
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