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First-Ever Images of an Electron In Orbit

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Artemis
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States129 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-30 03:24:54
August 29 2011 18:00 GMT
#1
It was only two years ago that IBM showed us an image of a complete molecule, atomic bonds and all, but today's news does that one infinitesimally-sized breakthrough better. Ladies and gents, behold the first image of an electron's path.

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SOURCE: http://gizmodo.com/5835164/fascinatingly-small-images-give-first ever-glimpse-of-an-electrons-orbit
Full Article: http://www.nature.com/nchem/journal/v3/n4/full/nchem.1008.html#/access
Explanation:
On August 30 2011 06:49 Nycaloth wrote:
ok.... i see there is some explaining to do here. just as a bit of a reference, i work as a PhD student for one of the people who helped obtain the results referenced in this http://gizmodo.com/5346964/ibm-takes-first-3d-image-of-atomic-bonds] article, which is also linked in the gizmodo article in the first post and work in the field of molecular microscopy.

There are some misconceptions and presented so far and id like to rectify that a bit and give a very general explanation on what we see and what it means.

The pictures we see are taken by very advanced microcopes, the techniques used are scanning tunneling mocroscopy (STM) and atomic force microscopy (AFM). though called that, they are not microscopes in the "traditional" sense and do not use light and lenses to peek into the very small. instead, both work by scanning a surface with a very narrow metal tip and recording certain surface properties at different points. these measurements can be combined into pictures of the surface, single measurements being the pixels combining the picture. Through the use of piezo crystals and sofisticated dampening of the tip-sample system as a whole, the motion of the tip can be controlled very precisely, on scales smaller the the diameter of an atom. understanding of both techniques requires a basic familiarity with quantum mechanics, but the wikipedia articles on the subject should be enough to explain how exactly they work.

Since we are doing quantum mechanics (QM), one has to be exceedingly careful when using terms such as "position", "velocity" or "path", since they cannot usually be defined in a meaningful way any more. i cant read the full article referenced in the OP at the moment since im not at the university and dont have access to it, but what we see in the pictures are molecular orbitals. what QM can only predict possibilities and other statistical quantities. orbitals are such a quantity, they represent the possibility to find an electron within a certain volume of space. this quantity can be computed numerically for complex systems such as molecules and these days can be measured by STM. due to electronic properties, namely the pauli exclusion principle, only two electrons can fit into one of these orbitals at a time. they are filled up until all the electrons in the molecule are used up. Thus, wer get the highest occupied molecular orbital, the HOMO, and the lowest unoccupied moelcular orbital, or LUMO. these two are usually involved when the molecule exchanges charge with its surroundings, eg during the formation of chemical bonds, which makes them interesting for study.

what can we learn from this? well, by studying the electronic properties of molecules, we can learn something about their behaviour! and since the STM and AFM also allow us to manipulate single atoms and molecules, we can start building things on this scale. our hope is that by understanding molecular interaction on this small scale, we will be able to build circuitry, memory or other useful things from molecular building blocks. a few advances have already been made in this area, as researchers have found molecules that can act as switches or rectifiers or have other potentially useful properties.

ill be happy to try and answer any questions on the topic!



This is simply amazing to be able to prove all those electron models, its crazy how fast camera's are advancing. Just to clarify the electrons are densest in the white parts and the nuclei is somewhere in the middle of all that.
Kinetik_Inferno
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1431 Posts
August 29 2011 18:02 GMT
#2
That's pretty incredible. Do you have a source?
urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
August 29 2011 18:03 GMT
#3
So...it would be swell to have some sources for this amazing new information.
Who dat ninja?
DisneylandSC
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands435 Posts
August 29 2011 18:04 GMT
#4
Could someone tell me what I'm looking at exactly. What are the white parts / what are the black parts / what is the relation between the pictures?
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-29 18:16:37
August 29 2011 18:05 GMT
#5
Untill I see a source I believe those are my dentist xrays.
After source I will be very interested indeed.

EDIT: This is awesome. I wonder how small they can get the exposure in 10 years.
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
August 29 2011 18:06 GMT
#6
Honey I shrunk the camera.
Artemis
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States129 Posts
August 29 2011 18:06 GMT
#7
updated with sources
Nqsty
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom118 Posts
August 29 2011 18:09 GMT
#8
Some explanation on what this is exactly ? I can't quite make sense of these photos with my very limited knowledge on the matter
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
August 29 2011 18:09 GMT
#9
Very nice, but there are better sources than Gizmodo for that stuff =D

"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
ChuU
Profile Joined December 2010
United States10 Posts
August 29 2011 18:11 GMT
#10
This is HUGE in terms of quantum physics. Imagine the changes in chemistry and intramolecular physics with the advancements of tracking electron's paths. The next few months with this are going to be quite interesting.
shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-29 18:11:43
August 29 2011 18:11 GMT
#11
For those of you currently in university, you can read the original paper if you go through your school's network or provided VPN.

This amazing, thanks for sharing.
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Gaga
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany433 Posts
August 29 2011 18:11 GMT
#12
amazing shit ....

ChuU
Profile Joined December 2010
United States10 Posts
August 29 2011 18:12 GMT
#13
On August 30 2011 03:09 Djzapz wrote:
Very nice, but there are better sources than Gizmodo for that stuff =D



The full article underneath goes into more about it
Backu
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden17 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-29 18:14:32
August 29 2011 18:13 GMT
#14
On August 30 2011 03:04 DisneylandSC wrote:
Could someone tell me what I'm looking at exactly. What are the white parts / what are the black parts / what is the relation between the pictures?


The white parts are electron clouds I guess you could call it and the black part is just background or something I suppose. It's pretty much proof of that the theory of how the electrons looklike in orbit looks like, which the pictures below show how they look like in theory.

I fail at explaining :<

On August 30 2011 03:11 shindigs wrote:
For those of you currently in university, you can read the original paper if you go through your school's network or provided VPN.

This amazing, thanks for sharing.



Oeh, thanks for the advice. Have to see if I can find it ^^
faruq
Profile Joined August 2011
United Arab Emirates116 Posts
August 29 2011 18:13 GMT
#15
This is cosmically epic!
Grats to human innovation!

If only we could make that time machine work! :D
ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
August 29 2011 18:15 GMT
#16
not really understand the images, if its true its amazing though electrons don't follow an orbit, ithey are pretty much at random places inside an orbital
No_Roo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States905 Posts
August 29 2011 18:15 GMT
#17
Comments in the article point out, they have not taken any image of an electron, the picture you're seeing is the deflection from the entire orbit of the electron. This is a significant difference in size by many orders of magnitude.
(US) NoRoo.fighting
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
August 29 2011 18:16 GMT
#18
Great to see people still pursuing knowledge for knowledge's sake.
The universe created an audience for itself.
0mar
Profile Joined February 2010
United States567 Posts
August 29 2011 18:18 GMT
#19
On August 30 2011 03:15 ilj.psa wrote:
not really understand the images, if its true its amazing though electrons don't follow an orbit, ithey are pretty much at random places inside an orbital



That's been known for about 100 years now...
ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
August 29 2011 18:19 GMT
#20
On August 30 2011 03:18 0mar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2011 03:15 ilj.psa wrote:
not really understand the images, if its true its amazing though electrons don't follow an orbit, ithey are pretty much at random places inside an orbital



That's been known for about 100 years now...

Yes, I was just pointing that out since the OP title is misleading
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