EPTThe Machinist
Memento
Fight Club
Intellectual Movies - Page 17
| Forum Index > General Forum |
|
Excessive
Denmark151 Posts
The Machinist Memento Fight Club | ||
|
sulliwan
85 Posts
On June 01 2011 15:52 casm wrote: I believe you are referring to Tideland - a wonderful Terry Gilliam film that I think deserves mention in this thread. 'The Fall' is a sort of similar movie that i would also recommend. I can't believe how underrated Tideland is, it is easily one of my favorite movies of all time. No other movie has ever managed to take me on a tour of my on mind in quite the same way. To add something to the thread: I believe K-PAX and The Ninth Configuration have not been mentioned yet. K-PAX is pretty unique as far as movies go, The Ninth Configuration is basically Shutter Island, I enjoyed Shutter Island more because of it's powerful visuals that reinforced the story. The Name of the Rose is also well worth watching. One of the few Sean Connery roles where he does not completely overwhelm the plot with his charisma. | ||
|
MozzarellaL
United States822 Posts
On June 01 2011 19:38 R3m3mb3rM3 wrote: and the most abstract: mullholand drive - its so intellectual that i never met anyone who knew what the hell is going on in that movie At its most basic level it's about a failed, depressed actress who wants to get revenge on her estranged girlfriend, and has a fantasy dream about what she wished her life had been. But all fantasies crumble...and she has to face reality. | ||
|
lepape
Canada557 Posts
, those are two true masters of their art. | ||
|
TheGiz
Canada708 Posts
On the whole though Naomi Watt's performance is stellar. Lynch mentally BROKE her during the filming of this movie, to which I'm going to say good job on his part, because he got a really good performance out of her. | ||
|
MozzarellaL
United States822 Posts
On June 01 2011 23:13 TheGiz wrote: Mulholland Drive is so cryptic however that it takes time after seeing the movie to finally figure out everything that's going on. Even though I fully understand the movie I still don't get the scene behind the diner..... I think it just serves as foreshadowing. The man goes in the back, sees something horrible, and his reality ends. Naomi Watts' character sees her 'death' in her dream, and her fantasy begins to crumble, and eventually leads to the end of her reality. The later scene at the end where her grandparents magically appear from near the dumpster and culminate in the ending just sort of ties the two things together. | ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States45262 Posts
On December 30 2010 06:33 Suffir wrote: Here are all of the movies spoken about that ive seen. I've categorized them by pseudo genre - many of them fit 3 or more. Ratings: (I'll try to be unbiased, but we know that's impossible) Great = ++ Good = + Mediocre = - and if didn't belong on here in the first place, nothing. This is based on the film as a whole, I may favor intellectuality. Intellectual 12 Monkies++ (Sci-fi Cult Classic) 21 grams+ A beautiful mind++ (Emotional, schizophrenic, delusional, brilliant) A Space Odyssey 2001++ (Kubrick classic) Adaptation+ Butterfly Effect- (So much potential...) Dark City++ (Cult classic) Donnie Darko++ (Cult classic) Eternal Sunshine of a Spotless Mind++ (Funny, weird, colorful and emotional) Eyes Wide Shut+ (too slow) Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas++ (Drug classic) Fight Club++ (If you haven't seen this... now.) Identity+ Jacob's Ladder++ (Madness) Magnolia++ (Weird and twisted at times. Funny, pretty much covers everything) Mulholland Drive++ (David Lynch is acquired taste) Saw++ (As a series, very compelling morality) Silence of the Lambs++ (Anthony WAS the series) Waking Life+ (A nice intro to existential thought, but pretty basic) The Fountain++ (Unique) Proof+ Primer++ (Given the budget, a masterpiece) Revolver++++++++ (SEE this movie. If you consider yourself a connoisseur.) Wall-E++ (Best Disney to date) Emotional A Requiem for a Dream++ (A trip into the insanity of drugs, legal and not) American History X+ (Racial, gangs, a tough life) Artificial Intelligence+++ (Question what emotion truly is Equilibrium++ (Life is not without emotion) Garden State+ (Mostly depressing. The main character is meant to be disliked. Reality check.) Goodwill Hunting+ (The life of an intellectual who doesn't care) Igby Goes Down+ (Dealing with a handicapped brother) Meet Joe Black (This movie had no merit to me) Memento+++ (Place yourself in the shoes of this man) Solaris+ (Odd sci-fi) The Shawshank Redemption+ (Overrated, but worth watching) The Sixth Sense++ (Hits the mark on being an outcast, though special) The Virgin Suicides+ The Jacket++ (Clever. Should see this one) Moon++ (Isolation, terribly sad) Action Apocalypse Now++ (One of the best war movies) Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels++ (Guy Ritchie does his thing. Great stuff.) Matrix++ (Eternally bashed, but magnificently conducted take on life) Pandorum+ (Insanity on a wrecked spaceship) The Deer Hunter+ (If you enjoy war movies, then this is one of the better ones) V for Vendetta+ (Dictation, revolution. Tad bit shallow, but gets what it aims for) Watchmen- (Has its high points, but overall... cash crop superheroes) Comedy Being John Malkovich++ (Hilarious and smart) I Heart Huckabees++ (Cooperation vs. Trees, with quirky undertones) Lost in Translation+ (Seemed a bit empty. Bill Murray has gotten stale) One Flew Over the Cockoo's Nest++ (A nice journey into a psych ward) Stranger than Fiction+++ (Hilarious) Synechdoche New York++ (Odd and sometimes just downright weird) Zombieland (Best comedic zombie movie) Fantasy Interview with a Vampire++ (Cult classic vampires) Spirited Away++ (Weird Japanese cartoon.) Can't Classify Irreversible++ (Unique piece of art) Old Boy++ (Good starter Asian film) Pi++ (A masterpiece, but it takes a special kind of person to appreciate it) Se7en++ (Pushing the disgusting ones to extremes, sin, beauty in death) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now, movies none of you posted. Intellectual Stay++ (Absolutely gorgeous, great clash with insanity and self destruction.) Inception++ (Cliche, i know, but it was a beautifully built movie. Took me a few days to truly get it) The Nines++ (Brilliant, i love it. Funny, captivating, and twisty.) The Chumscrubber+++ A Scanner Darkly++ (Cell shading ala Waking Life. Paranoia, trust, drug addiction. Classic.) Slipstream+ (If you have the patience, it's worth it. Nicely shot, but not gorgeous) Dead Poets Society++ (Do what you desire. Fantastic deviation from prep norm) Black Swan+ (Not up to Pi, Requiem, or Fountain standards. But interesting.) Enter the Void++ (This is an experience. Artistically overwhelming. Pretty long, but any intellectual will appreciate this.) Great movies on their own merits Scott Pilgrim vs the World++ (Must see if you play games. It hits all the right notes, best game movie ever.) Snatch++ (Guy Ritchie again. Sure, he recycles plots. But he's good at what he does.) RocknRolla++ (See above. Imo, better than Snatch. It has more life to it.) Go+ (Worth the watch, it has pretty much everything. Times three.) The Brothers Bloom++ (Great movie all around, it's intelligent, pretty, funny... and more) Chatroom- (Had to throw this one in here. Unique as far as I know. Worth a watch) Foreign Audition++ (Known by many as one of the best horror films of all time. Asian.) Martyrs++ (One of the sickest horror films ive seen. The plot behind it is one to ponder.) I'm ending this list here, spent enough time here already. WOW. Allow me to add one more... The Truman Show. | ||
|
SirGlinG
Sweden933 Posts
Man tänker sitt. A philosophy book open for anyones reflections are met in a swedish small town through a young boys thoughts. The stories in it opens up to people from anywhere in the world through it's lifewide perspective. I believe Mellancholia might already be in here somewhere above but have a need to write a bit about it. Von Trier can somehow catch you even with your guard up( at least it happened to me). The red thread is never left, whenever a word is thrown out without a later goal it's still a clear completing part to the film. Beethovens 9th becomes loaded with your questions, emotions for the first beatufiul 10minutes, this musical relationship is well used through the whole movie. To me these movies doesn't really require intellect. It requires an open mind. Open for thoughts that can hurt, emotions that can scare you, But it you're thrown into it, you feel like you really did something afterwards. It wasn't just another movie night, it was something rewarding for your personal gain, your view on life or yourself. These movies ask questions, that's to me what an "intellectual movie" ought to be described as. A movie that requires the viewer to have read up on certain science or philosophy has already lost most of the viewers, probably still asks questions but it does it at a cost of viewers for elitism or something like it. The movie itself isn't necessarily intellectual. Very well. If you have an open mind, feel free to take a look at these! | ||
|
zerglingrodeo
United States910 Posts
| ||
|
SirGlinG
Sweden933 Posts
On June 02 2011 01:29 zerglingrodeo wrote: The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser. Why should any human being watch this? | ||
|
Severedevil
United States4839 Posts
On June 01 2011 17:55 sc4k wrote: I physically am incapable of agreeing with you more. Well done, good sir. Unless you consider 12 Angry Men to be full of basic storytelling failures... 12 Angry Men isn't confusing, or built around cheap philosophy/commentary. It also shows rather than tells every time it's possible to do so under the premise of the piece (a jury room deliberation). There's a centralized driving force in the story, which is always moving, and it's impossible to lose track of its progress. (The ever-moving vote tallies are a powerful device.) I love me some 12 Angry Men. On June 01 2011 18:57 Sotamursu wrote: I wouldn't say slow pacing is a failure in stories. A fast pace can be just as bad, if it's not done well. Telling can also be more effective than just showing, which is why good books can be so immersing. I agree with you on 2 and 4. Especially 2. For example, Primer was decent and interesting before it neared the end where it just became a huge clusterfuck. Agreed completely on Primer. Good books generally rely upon showing - "Show, don't Tell" is a lesson plucked directly from my writing classes. | ||
|
Bio
Canada185 Posts
| ||
|
Omigawa
United States1556 Posts
| ||
|
hitman123
98 Posts
such a mindfucked movie. | ||
|
TheBeardedWonder
United States67 Posts
Visually speaking, it looks like a shitty 90's movie from the SciFi channel, but the story-telling is top-notch. | ||
|
EpiK
Korea (South)5757 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + French crime film about a young man's stay at a prison filled with muslims and corsicans (french mafia). Kind of reminded me of Layer Cake in some aspects but it definitely has a lot more going for it. Watch it if you're into deep gangster flicks. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford + Show Spoiler + Definitely not what I expected, which was some action-packed "3-10 to yuma"-like western, but I was pleasantly surprised. The film is more about an admirer of Jesse James rather than Jesse James himself (who's played by Brad Pitt) so it's more focused on the psychological fear/awe/confusion that character feels as he gets closer with the notorious bandit. I didn't really like it at first but the overall mood/vibe of the film stuck with me a few days after and really got me thinking so I eventually did realize the film's merits. Definitely check it out if you like intellectual westerns. Man on Wire + Show Spoiler + a documentary about a french guy doing a high-wire walk between the twin towers. | ||
|
Elroi
Sweden5599 Posts
I have seen a lot of really good films that are adapted from novels recently: The Dead (from the short story of James Joyce) by John Huston, The Stranger (Camus) and Death in Venice (Mann) by Visconti. (I understand "intellectual film" as an interessting film that does not rely on the usual degraded hollywood aesthetics/ideology.) | ||
|
Qwix
531 Posts
21 Grams Good Will Hunting Scott Pilgrim vs the World Revolver A Beautiful Mind Assault on Precint 13 Mulholland Drive Phone Booth Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels Requim for a Dream Arlington Road Exam Adaptation Amores Perros Collateral Identity 25th hour Black Swan Synecdoche, New York RocknRolla Stay Tell No One Thanks in advance to all the contributors to this list, hopefully I will have a great time watching them  | ||
|
dicey
142 Posts
Also maybe two to add to the foreign movie list: California Dreamin' (get some subtitles going!) Perfume - The Story of a Murderer (Odd! Obviously the book was better. "Murderer" seems the wrong word to use, especially for the title.) | ||
|
Lamppost
Canada317 Posts
| ||
| ||
