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Excessive
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark151 Posts
June 01 2011 11:44 GMT
#321
Donnie Darko
The Machinist
Memento
Fight Club
sulliwan
Profile Joined March 2010
85 Posts
June 01 2011 12:48 GMT
#322
On June 01 2011 15:52 casm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2010 01:15 luckyseven wrote:
whats the movie about a young girl living in a cabin surrounded by a huge yellow field with her dead father sitting on the couch?


I believe you are referring to Tideland - a wonderful Terry Gilliam film that I think deserves mention in this thread. 'The Fall' is a sort of similar movie that i would also recommend.


I can't believe how underrated Tideland is, it is easily one of my favorite movies of all time. No other movie has ever managed to take me on a tour of my on mind in quite the same way.

To add something to the thread: I believe K-PAX and The Ninth Configuration have not been mentioned yet. K-PAX is pretty unique as far as movies go, The Ninth Configuration is basically Shutter Island, I enjoyed Shutter Island more because of it's powerful visuals that reinforced the story.

The Name of the Rose is also well worth watching. One of the few Sean Connery roles where he does not completely overwhelm the plot with his charisma.
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MozzarellaL
Profile Joined November 2010
United States822 Posts
June 01 2011 14:08 GMT
#323
On June 01 2011 19:38 R3m3mb3rM3 wrote:
and the most abstract:
mullholand drive - its so intellectual that i never met anyone who knew what the hell is going on in that movie

At its most basic level it's about a failed, depressed actress who wants to get revenge on her estranged girlfriend, and has a fantasy dream about what she wished her life had been. But all fantasies crumble...and she has to face reality.
lepape
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada557 Posts
June 01 2011 14:10 GMT
#324
most of the movies mentionned here are for people who like to think theyre watching intellectual movies. try Bergman or Kieslowski
, those are two true masters of their art.
TheGiz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada708 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-03 20:03:39
June 01 2011 14:13 GMT
#325
Mulholland Drive is so cryptic however that it takes time after seeing the movie to finally figure out everything that's going on. Even though I fully understand the movie I still don't get the scene behind the diner.....

On the whole though Naomi Watt's performance is stellar. Lynch mentally BROKE her during the filming of this movie, to which I'm going to say good job on his part, because he got a really good performance out of her.
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MozzarellaL
Profile Joined November 2010
United States822 Posts
June 01 2011 14:17 GMT
#326
On June 01 2011 23:13 TheGiz wrote:
Mulholland Drive is so cryptic however that it takes time after seeing the movie to finally figure out everything that's going on. Even though I fully understand the movie I still don't get the scene behind the diner.....

I think it just serves as foreshadowing. The man goes in the back, sees something horrible, and his reality ends. Naomi Watts' character sees her 'death' in her dream, and her fantasy begins to crumble, and eventually leads to the end of her reality. The later scene at the end where her grandparents magically appear from near the dumpster and culminate in the ending just sort of ties the two things together.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46038 Posts
June 01 2011 14:25 GMT
#327
On December 30 2010 06:33 Suffir wrote:
Here are all of the movies spoken about that ive seen.
I've categorized them by pseudo genre - many of them fit 3 or more.
Ratings: (I'll try to be unbiased, but we know that's impossible)
Great = ++ Good = + Mediocre = - and if didn't belong on here in the first place, nothing.
This is based on the film as a whole, I may favor intellectuality.

Intellectual
12 Monkies++ (Sci-fi Cult Classic)
21 grams+
A beautiful mind++ (Emotional, schizophrenic, delusional, brilliant)
A Space Odyssey 2001++ (Kubrick classic)
Adaptation+
Butterfly Effect- (So much potential...)
Dark City++ (Cult classic)
Donnie Darko++ (Cult classic)
Eternal Sunshine of a Spotless Mind++ (Funny, weird, colorful and emotional)
Eyes Wide Shut+ (too slow)
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas++ (Drug classic)
Fight Club++ (If you haven't seen this... now.)
Identity+
Jacob's Ladder++ (Madness)
Magnolia++ (Weird and twisted at times. Funny, pretty much covers everything)
Mulholland Drive++ (David Lynch is acquired taste)
Saw++ (As a series, very compelling morality)
Silence of the Lambs++ (Anthony WAS the series)
Waking Life+ (A nice intro to existential thought, but pretty basic)
The Fountain++ (Unique)
Proof+
Primer++ (Given the budget, a masterpiece)
Revolver++++++++ (SEE this movie. If you consider yourself a connoisseur.)
Wall-E++ (Best Disney to date)

Emotional
A Requiem for a Dream++ (A trip into the insanity of drugs, legal and not)
American History X+ (Racial, gangs, a tough life)
Artificial Intelligence+++ (Question what emotion truly is
Equilibrium++ (Life is not without emotion)
Garden State+ (Mostly depressing. The main character is meant to be disliked. Reality check.)
Goodwill Hunting+ (The life of an intellectual who doesn't care)
Igby Goes Down+ (Dealing with a handicapped brother)
Meet Joe Black (This movie had no merit to me)
Memento+++ (Place yourself in the shoes of this man)
Solaris+ (Odd sci-fi)
The Shawshank Redemption+ (Overrated, but worth watching)
The Sixth Sense++ (Hits the mark on being an outcast, though special)
The Virgin Suicides+
The Jacket++ (Clever. Should see this one)
Moon++ (Isolation, terribly sad)

Action
Apocalypse Now++ (One of the best war movies)
Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels++ (Guy Ritchie does his thing. Great stuff.)
Matrix++ (Eternally bashed, but magnificently conducted take on life)
Pandorum+ (Insanity on a wrecked spaceship)
The Deer Hunter+ (If you enjoy war movies, then this is one of the better ones)
V for Vendetta+ (Dictation, revolution. Tad bit shallow, but gets what it aims for)
Watchmen- (Has its high points, but overall... cash crop superheroes)

Comedy
Being John Malkovich++ (Hilarious and smart)
I Heart Huckabees++ (Cooperation vs. Trees, with quirky undertones)
Lost in Translation+ (Seemed a bit empty. Bill Murray has gotten stale)
One Flew Over the Cockoo's Nest++ (A nice journey into a psych ward)
Stranger than Fiction+++ (Hilarious)
Synechdoche New York++ (Odd and sometimes just downright weird)
Zombieland (Best comedic zombie movie)

Fantasy
Interview with a Vampire++ (Cult classic vampires)
Spirited Away++ (Weird Japanese cartoon.)

Can't Classify
Irreversible++ (Unique piece of art)
Old Boy++ (Good starter Asian film)
Pi++ (A masterpiece, but it takes a special kind of person to appreciate it)
Se7en++ (Pushing the disgusting ones to extremes, sin, beauty in death)
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Now, movies none of you posted.

Intellectual
Stay++ (Absolutely gorgeous, great clash with insanity and self destruction.)
Inception++ (Cliche, i know, but it was a beautifully built movie. Took me a few days to truly get it)
The Nines++ (Brilliant, i love it. Funny, captivating, and twisty.)
The Chumscrubber+++
A Scanner Darkly++ (Cell shading ala Waking Life. Paranoia, trust, drug addiction. Classic.)
Slipstream+ (If you have the patience, it's worth it. Nicely shot, but not gorgeous)
Dead Poets Society++ (Do what you desire. Fantastic deviation from prep norm)
Black Swan+ (Not up to Pi, Requiem, or Fountain standards. But interesting.)
Enter the Void++ (This is an experience. Artistically overwhelming. Pretty long, but any intellectual will appreciate this.)

Great movies on their own merits
Scott Pilgrim vs the World++ (Must see if you play games. It hits all the right notes, best game movie ever.)
Snatch++ (Guy Ritchie again. Sure, he recycles plots. But he's good at what he does.)
RocknRolla++ (See above. Imo, better than Snatch. It has more life to it.)
Go+ (Worth the watch, it has pretty much everything. Times three.)
The Brothers Bloom++ (Great movie all around, it's intelligent, pretty, funny... and more)

Chatroom- (Had to throw this one in here. Unique as far as I know. Worth a watch)

Foreign
Audition++ (Known by many as one of the best horror films of all time. Asian.)
Martyrs++ (One of the sickest horror films ive seen. The plot behind it is one to ponder.)

I'm ending this list here, spent enough time here already.




WOW.

Allow me to add one more...

The Truman Show.
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SirGlinG
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden933 Posts
June 01 2011 16:23 GMT
#328
I'd like to add two movies which have caused a lot of thinking inside of me.
Man tänker sitt.
A philosophy book open for anyones reflections are met in a swedish small town through a young boys thoughts. The stories in it opens up to people from anywhere in the world through it's lifewide perspective.

I believe Mellancholia might already be in here somewhere above but have a need to write a bit about it.
Von Trier can somehow catch you even with your guard up( at least it happened to me). The red thread is never left, whenever a word is thrown out without a later goal it's still a clear completing part to the film.
Beethovens 9th becomes loaded with your questions, emotions for the first beatufiul 10minutes, this musical relationship is well used through the whole movie.

To me these movies doesn't really require intellect. It requires an open mind. Open for thoughts that can hurt, emotions that can scare you, But it you're thrown into it, you feel like you really did something afterwards. It wasn't just another movie night, it was something rewarding for your personal gain, your view on life or yourself.

These movies ask questions, that's to me what an "intellectual movie" ought to be described as.
A movie that requires the viewer to have read up on certain science or philosophy has already lost most of the viewers, probably still asks questions but it does it at a cost of viewers for elitism or something like it. The movie itself isn't necessarily intellectual.

Very well. If you have an open mind, feel free to take a look at these!
Not my chair. Not my problem. That's what I say
zerglingrodeo
Profile Joined September 2010
United States910 Posts
June 01 2011 16:29 GMT
#329
The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser.
"This is how philosophers should salute one another: 'Take your time!'' - Wittgenstein
SirGlinG
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden933 Posts
June 01 2011 16:58 GMT
#330
On June 02 2011 01:29 zerglingrodeo wrote:
The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser.


Why should any human being watch this?
Not my chair. Not my problem. That's what I say
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
June 02 2011 00:18 GMT
#331
On June 01 2011 17:55 sc4k wrote:
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On June 01 2011 16:44 Severedevil wrote:
I confess I'm unsure what an 'intellectual' movie is. There are a few very easy ways to force your audience to think:

1) Slow pacing.
2) Confusion (or outright incoherence).
3) Telling instead of showing.
4) Espousing cheap philosophy or sociopolitical commentary.

These are basic storytelling failures, commonly misinterpreted as sophistication or intelligence...


I physically am incapable of agreeing with you more. Well done, good sir.

Unless you consider 12 Angry Men to be full of basic storytelling failures...

12 Angry Men isn't confusing, or built around cheap philosophy/commentary. It also shows rather than tells every time it's possible to do so under the premise of the piece (a jury room deliberation). There's a centralized driving force in the story, which is always moving, and it's impossible to lose track of its progress. (The ever-moving vote tallies are a powerful device.)

I love me some 12 Angry Men.

On June 01 2011 18:57 Sotamursu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2011 16:44 Severedevil wrote:
I confess I'm unsure what an 'intellectual' movie is. There are a few very easy ways to force your audience to think:

1) Slow pacing.
2) Confusion (or outright incoherence).
3) Telling instead of showing.
4) Espousing cheap philosophy or sociopolitical commentary.

I wouldn't say slow pacing is a failure in stories. A fast pace can be just as bad, if it's not done well. Telling can also be more effective than just showing, which is why good books can be so immersing. I agree with you on 2 and 4. Especially 2. For example, Primer was decent and interesting before it neared the end where it just became a huge clusterfuck.

Agreed completely on Primer.

Good books generally rely upon showing - "Show, don't Tell" is a lesson plucked directly from my writing classes.
My strategy is to fork people.
Bio
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada185 Posts
June 02 2011 00:26 GMT
#332
I can't talk about this movie, it's against the rules. :/
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Omigawa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1556 Posts
June 02 2011 00:28 GMT
#333
The Thin Red Line
hitman123
Profile Joined May 2011
98 Posts
June 02 2011 00:28 GMT
#334
Should watch Mr. Nobody.
such a mindfucked movie.
TheBeardedWonder
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States67 Posts
June 02 2011 00:29 GMT
#335
The Man From Earth

Visually speaking, it looks like a shitty 90's movie from the SciFi channel, but the story-telling is top-notch.
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-02 00:39:26
June 02 2011 00:34 GMT
#336
A Prophet
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French crime film about a young man's stay at a prison filled with muslims and corsicans (french mafia). Kind of reminded me of Layer Cake in some aspects but it definitely has a lot more going for it. Watch it if you're into deep gangster flicks.

The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
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Definitely not what I expected, which was some action-packed "3-10 to yuma"-like western, but I was pleasantly surprised. The film is more about an admirer of Jesse James rather than Jesse James himself (who's played by Brad Pitt) so it's more focused on the psychological fear/awe/confusion that character feels as he gets closer with the notorious bandit. I didn't really like it at first but the overall mood/vibe of the film stuck with me a few days after and really got me thinking so I eventually did realize the film's merits. Definitely check it out if you like intellectual westerns.

Man on Wire
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a documentary about a french guy doing a high-wire walk between the twin towers.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5600 Posts
June 02 2011 00:40 GMT
#337
Showing and telling are only different aesthetic ideals (atleast in the sens that Booth introduced the terms)... Of course, telling is probably percieved as less 'intelligent' in films since it is more relying on action than acting.

I have seen a lot of really good films that are adapted from novels recently: The Dead (from the short story of James Joyce) by John Huston, The Stranger (Camus) and Death in Venice (Mann) by Visconti.

(I understand "intellectual film" as an interessting film that does not rely on the usual degraded hollywood aesthetics/ideology.)
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Qwix
Profile Joined October 2010
531 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-02 20:38:28
June 02 2011 18:23 GMT
#338
Quite new here as I saw the topic came by due some browsing. Currently got the following movies on my watch list:

21 Grams
Good Will Hunting
Scott Pilgrim vs the World
Revolver
A Beautiful Mind
Assault on Precint 13
Mulholland Drive
Phone Booth
Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels
Requim for a Dream
Arlington Road
Exam
Adaptation
Amores Perros
Collateral
Identity
25th hour
Black Swan
Synecdoche, New York
RocknRolla
Stay
Tell No One

Thanks in advance to all the contributors to this list, hopefully I will have a great time watching them
dicey
Profile Joined November 2010
142 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-02 20:54:17
June 02 2011 20:53 GMT
#339
Not sure if it qualifies but I'd say Lions for Lambs would go well with the list.

Also maybe two to add to the foreign movie list:
California Dreamin' (get some subtitles going!)
Perfume - The Story of a Murderer (Odd! Obviously the book was better. "Murderer" seems the wrong word to use, especially for the title.)
Lamppost
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada317 Posts
June 02 2011 20:58 GMT
#340
This might not be a movie, but still worth mentioning is band of brothers the tv miniseries by Spielberg and Hanks. Amazing series that will make you go into a minor depression for weeks.
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