On March 22 2012 02:12 forgottendreams wrote: I feel bad for the repubs laying low from all the shellacking going on lately
Honestly you can't get much worse then this nomination race, any good candidates stayed out for 2016 and the repubs probably hit their peak not long ago.Not only that but the party is facing an identity crisis as religion declines, gay marriage support is now the majority and environmental reform is becoming more accepted. It's probably all down hill from here with dems retaking the House in 2015 maybe. On the bright side if dems do sweep all houses it normally results with a strong dislike of the dominating party in a matter of a year so 2016 could turn out very good.
You're focusing on the wrong issues. This election isn't going to be about any of those items, which is why your analysis is all wrong. This election is going to be about economic and fiscal issues. Period. The problem for democrats is that they are very weak on these issues. Hell, they don't even have a plan for the country's fiscal issues, which is political lunacy as far as I am concerned.
Maybe you're the one focusing on the wrong issues? I know plenty of people who 6 months ago had no doubt in their mind they were going to be voting for the republican candidate whoever that ended up being, but now they have resigned themselves to the fact that they will be voting for Obama because all the other issues > economic issues to them. Just because lots of Republicans keep trying to say that this election is only going to be about economic issues doesn't mean that the rest of the country agrees with them, Republicans can't even keep their primaries about economic issues so what makes you think that they'll be able to keep it all about that in a national election when they're so weak in other areas that Democrats would have to be 100% clueless not to focus on those other areas?
You realize that all of the polls show fiscal and economic issues as being the most important, right? Democrats and Obama certainly will want to talk about social issues because they know that they're fucked on the economy right now. Sure, it may improve between now and the election, but it is looking increasingly unlikely that the economy will improve enough to where Obama can seize the issue as a positive talking point. This is a huge liability for him that republicans have not even begun to exploit (and which will not begin in earnest until after the primary is over).
Also, I'd argue that Romney has been very focused on economic issues throughout the campaign. The deviations to discussion about social issues have come either from the media or from the other candidates. It certainly hasn't hurt him much to retain this focus.
There's a big difference between being the most important and being important to the point where the other issues don't matter. Even if economic issues are the most important they won't be so important that they overshadow all the other issues that are there to be brought up, especially since the side with more money, Obama, will have a much easier time shifting the focus to various issues of his choosing. Also how have the republicans not even begun to exploit economic issues? They seem to be spending plenty of time trying to focus on them from what I've seen, the only reason they haven't fully focused on it is because of the constant social issues that keep arising that become the center of public attention. The fact that that has happened so often should show you that even if economic issues are important they aren't some overriding matter that will outweigh everything else.
11:20 a.m. | Updated CHICAGO — Former Gov. Jeb Bush of Florida said Wednesday that he was endorsing Mitt Romney‘s bid for the Republican presidential nomination, and urged his party to bring the divisive primary to a close and coalesce behind Mr. Romney’s candidacy.
On March 22 2012 01:03 xDaunt wrote: It looks like the primary is effectively over after last night. After the Wisconsin primary, the next several will be in easy-win states for Romney such as California and the New England states.
I was impressed with Romney's victory speech last night. It looks like he is finally finding a message and latching onto a big idea to anchor his campaign: economic freedom. I have criticized him for a while for not doing this. This a powerful theme that taps into America's inherent and visceral "leave me the fuck alone" sentiment. Romney will need to work on the message some more to further develop and refine it, but it's a good start.
Not even the Romney campaign thinks this. There's no clear path to the nomination for anyone else but Romney, but there's no reason to think he'll get the necessary delegates. There's still a reasonably high chance that he'll fall short of the number needed (even if he gets all the unbound "super delegates," which he wont).
Nevermind the fact that the delegate numbers are still really unclear. Most states haven't awarded actual delegates yet, and the ones that have keep changing them. The Ron Paul campaign has been using technicalities in the delegate selection process to take delegates to which they otherwise wouldn't be entitled, and have even claims they will end up with majorities in several of the early states once the state nominating conventions start.
Santorum isn't going anywhere until Romney picks up the requisite delegates. Newt isn't going anywhere because he's an ego maniac. Paul isn't going anywhere because he never thought he'd win in the first place. It's always been about being a issues/protest candidate. Plus, he's doing much better than expected, and probably better than anyone really knows (still nowhere close to the nomination).
Romney is the likely nominee, even in the event of a brokered convention. Jeb Bush's endorsement today only makes this more likely. In spite of this, it's clearly not over.
Eh, I disagree. It looks like the tea party republicans are coalescing around Romney, leaving Santorum with just the hardcore social conservatives. Moreover, when the race turns to the Northeast, Romney is going to gain a higher percentage of the delegates than he has up until this point.
On March 22 2012 02:12 forgottendreams wrote: I feel bad for the repubs laying low from all the shellacking going on lately
Honestly you can't get much worse then this nomination race, any good candidates stayed out for 2016 and the repubs probably hit their peak not long ago.Not only that but the party is facing an identity crisis as religion declines, gay marriage support is now the majority and environmental reform is becoming more accepted. It's probably all down hill from here with dems retaking the House in 2015 maybe. On the bright side if dems do sweep all houses it normally results with a strong dislike of the dominating party in a matter of a year so 2016 could turn out very good.
You're focusing on the wrong issues. This election isn't going to be about any of those items, which is why your analysis is all wrong. This election is going to be about economic and fiscal issues. Period. The problem for democrats is that they are very weak on these issues. Hell, they don't even have a plan for the country's fiscal issues, which is political lunacy as far as I am concerned.
Oooh I see, so the republican candidate (most probably Romney) is going to win the general election then?
Seriously you crack me up so much. You know why you think democrats are weak on economic issues? Because you're looking at it through your republican goggles. Me, outside observer hailing from Sweden, do not agree with this. In fact I think the democrats in general and Obama in particular had a much better plan including 'Obamacare' which was destroyed by republicans before passing (Obama can and has been blamed for letting the bill get destroyed). Now I assume you're also including the current economic situation, luckily Obama inherited this and Obama knows how to speak clearly to people and the public in general meaning he'll be able to divert (justly) any blame for this while taking credit for anything positive at all coming out of the situation. Because he's a skilled politician. So, uh, even if you were correct that the upcoming election will be only about economic and fiscal issues Obama will still win. He'll win even harder because you're wrong.
On March 22 2012 02:12 forgottendreams wrote: I feel bad for the repubs laying low from all the shellacking going on lately
Honestly you can't get much worse then this nomination race, any good candidates stayed out for 2016 and the repubs probably hit their peak not long ago.Not only that but the party is facing an identity crisis as religion declines, gay marriage support is now the majority and environmental reform is becoming more accepted. It's probably all down hill from here with dems retaking the House in 2015 maybe. On the bright side if dems do sweep all houses it normally results with a strong dislike of the dominating party in a matter of a year so 2016 could turn out very good.
You're focusing on the wrong issues. This election isn't going to be about any of those items, which is why your analysis is all wrong. This election is going to be about economic and fiscal issues. Period. The problem for democrats is that they are very weak on these issues. Hell, they don't even have a plan for the country's fiscal issues, which is political lunacy as far as I am concerned.
Oooh I see, so the republican candidate (most probably Romney) is going to win the general election then?
Seriously you crack me up so much. You know why you think democrats are weak on economic issues? Because you're looking at it through your republican goggles. Me, outside observer hailing from Sweden, do not agree with this. In fact I think the democrats in general and Obama in particular had a much better plan including 'Obamacare' which was destroyed by republicans before passing (Obama can and has been blamed for letting the bill get destroyed). Now I assume you're also including the current economic situation, luckily Obama inherited this and Obama knows how to speak clearly to people and the public in general meaning he'll be able to divert (justly) any blame for this while taking credit for anything positive at all coming out of the situation. Because he's a skilled politician. So, uh, even if you were correct that the upcoming election will be only about economic and fiscal issues Obama will still win. He'll win even harder because you're wrong.
It takes a special kind of naivete to believe that, if the economy is still bad come November, it will not be hung around Obama's neck. Just ask all of the democrats who were thrown out of office in 2010. Americans expect results, not excuses.
EDIT: I find it hilarious that you would accuse me of me wearing "republican goggles" and then spit out democrat talking points in the very next sentence. Unlike your points, the one that I am making about the economy is about as objective as it comes.
On March 22 2012 02:12 forgottendreams wrote: I feel bad for the repubs laying low from all the shellacking going on lately
Honestly you can't get much worse then this nomination race, any good candidates stayed out for 2016 and the repubs probably hit their peak not long ago.Not only that but the party is facing an identity crisis as religion declines, gay marriage support is now the majority and environmental reform is becoming more accepted. It's probably all down hill from here with dems retaking the House in 2015 maybe. On the bright side if dems do sweep all houses it normally results with a strong dislike of the dominating party in a matter of a year so 2016 could turn out very good.
You're focusing on the wrong issues. This election isn't going to be about any of those items, which is why your analysis is all wrong. This election is going to be about economic and fiscal issues. Period. The problem for democrats is that they are very weak on these issues. Hell, they don't even have a plan for the country's fiscal issues, which is political lunacy as far as I am concerned.
Oooh I see, so the republican candidate (most probably Romney) is going to win the general election then?
Seriously you crack me up so much. You know why you think democrats are weak on economic issues? Because you're looking at it through your republican goggles. Me, outside observer hailing from Sweden, do not agree with this. In fact I think the democrats in general and Obama in particular had a much better plan including 'Obamacare' which was destroyed by republicans before passing (Obama can and has been blamed for letting the bill get destroyed). Now I assume you're also including the current economic situation, luckily Obama inherited this and Obama knows how to speak clearly to people and the public in general meaning he'll be able to divert (justly) any blame for this while taking credit for anything positive at all coming out of the situation. Because he's a skilled politician. So, uh, even if you were correct that the upcoming election will be only about economic and fiscal issues Obama will still win. He'll win even harder because you're wrong.
It takes a special kind of naivete to believe that, if the economy is still bad come November, it will not be hung around Obama's neck. Just ask all of the democrats who were thrown out of office in 2010. Americans expect results, not excuses.
The economy will be pretty important... but you make it out to be the most important issue and already give it the republican spin which will benefit them the most naturally. Let´s wait until the nomination is over and on which platforms Obama and Romney will run. And one could make a case that the tea party movement - came out of nowhere(*wink*kochbrothers*wink*) - and changed the equation because of the great campaign AND the economy going down the shitter. So it was to expect the Dems lose some ground in in 2010. Let´s also not forget Americans also prefer or at least tend to vote for a red congress when the presidency is blue and the other way around.
You may have heard that President Obama’s economic stimulus plan prevented America’s economy from falling of a cliff. You heard wrong, according to Mitt Romney.
“I keep hearing the president say that he’s responsible for keeping America from going into a Great Depression,” Romney told a crowd at a town hall meeting in Maryland Wednesday. “No, no no. That was President George W. Bush and Hank Paulson that stepped in and kept that from happening.”
Romney’s quip came in the context of talking about the bank bailouts, a deeply unpopular program among conservatives that Romney has endorsed. It’s unclear who exactly Romney is trying to connect with by praising Bush and Paulson, the former Treasury secretary, as the saviors of the American economy.
On March 22 2012 02:12 forgottendreams wrote: I feel bad for the repubs laying low from all the shellacking going on lately
Honestly you can't get much worse then this nomination race, any good candidates stayed out for 2016 and the repubs probably hit their peak not long ago.Not only that but the party is facing an identity crisis as religion declines, gay marriage support is now the majority and environmental reform is becoming more accepted. It's probably all down hill from here with dems retaking the House in 2015 maybe. On the bright side if dems do sweep all houses it normally results with a strong dislike of the dominating party in a matter of a year so 2016 could turn out very good.
You're focusing on the wrong issues. This election isn't going to be about any of those items, which is why your analysis is all wrong. This election is going to be about economic and fiscal issues. Period. The problem for democrats is that they are very weak on these issues. Hell, they don't even have a plan for the country's fiscal issues, which is political lunacy as far as I am concerned.
Oooh I see, so the republican candidate (most probably Romney) is going to win the general election then?
Seriously you crack me up so much. You know why you think democrats are weak on economic issues? Because you're looking at it through your republican goggles. Me, outside observer hailing from Sweden, do not agree with this. In fact I think the democrats in general and Obama in particular had a much better plan including 'Obamacare' which was destroyed by republicans before passing (Obama can and has been blamed for letting the bill get destroyed). Now I assume you're also including the current economic situation, luckily Obama inherited this and Obama knows how to speak clearly to people and the public in general meaning he'll be able to divert (justly) any blame for this while taking credit for anything positive at all coming out of the situation. Because he's a skilled politician. So, uh, even if you were correct that the upcoming election will be only about economic and fiscal issues Obama will still win. He'll win even harder because you're wrong.
It takes a special kind of naivete to believe that, if the economy is still bad come November, it will not be hung around Obama's neck. Just ask all of the democrats who were thrown out of office in 2010. Americans expect results, not excuses.
EDIT: I find it hilarious that you would accuse me of me wearing "republican goggles" and then spit out democrat talking points in the very next sentence. Unlike your points, the one that I am making about the economy is about as objective as it comes.
The thing is that the economy keeps getting better month after month, so I assume the point the Democrats are gonna push when Republicans bring up the economic situation is that the economy was going to shit by the end of Bush's term and for the first year or so of Obama's term and since then it has steadily been getting better. In my opinion that could be pretty effective.
On March 22 2012 02:12 forgottendreams wrote: I feel bad for the repubs laying low from all the shellacking going on lately
Honestly you can't get much worse then this nomination race, any good candidates stayed out for 2016 and the repubs probably hit their peak not long ago.Not only that but the party is facing an identity crisis as religion declines, gay marriage support is now the majority and environmental reform is becoming more accepted. It's probably all down hill from here with dems retaking the House in 2015 maybe. On the bright side if dems do sweep all houses it normally results with a strong dislike of the dominating party in a matter of a year so 2016 could turn out very good.
You're focusing on the wrong issues. This election isn't going to be about any of those items, which is why your analysis is all wrong. This election is going to be about economic and fiscal issues. Period. The problem for democrats is that they are very weak on these issues. Hell, they don't even have a plan for the country's fiscal issues, which is political lunacy as far as I am concerned.
Oooh I see, so the republican candidate (most probably Romney) is going to win the general election then?
Seriously you crack me up so much. You know why you think democrats are weak on economic issues? Because you're looking at it through your republican goggles. Me, outside observer hailing from Sweden, do not agree with this. In fact I think the democrats in general and Obama in particular had a much better plan including 'Obamacare' which was destroyed by republicans before passing (Obama can and has been blamed for letting the bill get destroyed). Now I assume you're also including the current economic situation, luckily Obama inherited this and Obama knows how to speak clearly to people and the public in general meaning he'll be able to divert (justly) any blame for this while taking credit for anything positive at all coming out of the situation. Because he's a skilled politician. So, uh, even if you were correct that the upcoming election will be only about economic and fiscal issues Obama will still win. He'll win even harder because you're wrong.
It takes a special kind of naivete to believe that, if the economy is still bad come November, it will not be hung around Obama's neck. Just ask all of the democrats who were thrown out of office in 2010. Americans expect results, not excuses.
EDIT: I find it hilarious that you would accuse me of me wearing "republican goggles" and then spit out democrat talking points in the very next sentence. Unlike your points, the one that I am making about the economy is about as objective as it comes.
The thing is that the economy keeps getting better month after month, so I assume the point the Democrats are gonna push when Republicans bring up the economic situation is that the economy was going to shit by the end of Bush's term and for the first year or so of Obama's term and since then it has steadily been getting better. In my opinion that could be pretty effective.
Democrats have already tried to blame Bush for everything ever since Obama was elected. It hasn't worked up until this point, and I don't see it working in the future.
As for the improvement in the economy, it has been marginal at best. Like I pointed out earlier in this thread, you have to think about the issue this way: is the economy at a point where democrats can comfortably say that the economy is doing well or trending well? The answer is unequivocally no. Though some indicators have shown a little improvement, Americans don't feel the improvement yet.
Is a positive trend not "trending well"? That's not stagnation, and that's obviously not a negative trend, so I really can't understand how this issue is even in the spotlight. Should we stay the course with incremental positive gains? Or should we shake things up and roll the dice with a new president for who knows what kind of net effect? I'd prefer the incremental positive gains, thanks.
On March 22 2012 07:31 seiferoth10 wrote: Is a positive trend not "trending well"? That's not stagnation, and that's obviously not a negative trend, so I really can't understand how this issue is even in the spotlight. Should we stay the course with incremental positive gains? Or should we shake things up and roll the dice with a new president for who knows what kind of net effect? I'd prefer the incremental positive gains, thanks.
The problem is that most Americans don't look at the technical numbers and see the marginal improvement. Instead, they look at their own economic situation (jobs, savings, home value, debt, etc) and the economic situations of their friends/family, and think, "wow, the economy really sucks right now."
On March 22 2012 02:12 forgottendreams wrote: I feel bad for the repubs laying low from all the shellacking going on lately
Honestly you can't get much worse then this nomination race, any good candidates stayed out for 2016 and the repubs probably hit their peak not long ago.Not only that but the party is facing an identity crisis as religion declines, gay marriage support is now the majority and environmental reform is becoming more accepted. It's probably all down hill from here with dems retaking the House in 2015 maybe. On the bright side if dems do sweep all houses it normally results with a strong dislike of the dominating party in a matter of a year so 2016 could turn out very good.
You're focusing on the wrong issues. This election isn't going to be about any of those items, which is why your analysis is all wrong. This election is going to be about economic and fiscal issues. Period. The problem for democrats is that they are very weak on these issues. Hell, they don't even have a plan for the country's fiscal issues, which is political lunacy as far as I am concerned.
Oooh I see, so the republican candidate (most probably Romney) is going to win the general election then?
Seriously you crack me up so much. You know why you think democrats are weak on economic issues? Because you're looking at it through your republican goggles. Me, outside observer hailing from Sweden, do not agree with this. In fact I think the democrats in general and Obama in particular had a much better plan including 'Obamacare' which was destroyed by republicans before passing (Obama can and has been blamed for letting the bill get destroyed). Now I assume you're also including the current economic situation, luckily Obama inherited this and Obama knows how to speak clearly to people and the public in general meaning he'll be able to divert (justly) any blame for this while taking credit for anything positive at all coming out of the situation. Because he's a skilled politician. So, uh, even if you were correct that the upcoming election will be only about economic and fiscal issues Obama will still win. He'll win even harder because you're wrong.
It takes a special kind of naivete to believe that, if the economy is still bad come November, it will not be hung around Obama's neck. Just ask all of the democrats who were thrown out of office in 2010. Americans expect results, not excuses.
EDIT: I find it hilarious that you would accuse me of me wearing "republican goggles" and then spit out democrat talking points in the very next sentence. Unlike your points, the one that I am making about the economy is about as objective as it comes.
I have no democrat talking points, I'm not a democrat. I'm a swede, I vote for Swedish parties. You have no objective points what so ever, as has been shown throughout this thread. It's laughable that you claim otherwise.
On March 22 2012 02:12 forgottendreams wrote: I feel bad for the repubs laying low from all the shellacking going on lately
Honestly you can't get much worse then this nomination race, any good candidates stayed out for 2016 and the repubs probably hit their peak not long ago.Not only that but the party is facing an identity crisis as religion declines, gay marriage support is now the majority and environmental reform is becoming more accepted. It's probably all down hill from here with dems retaking the House in 2015 maybe. On the bright side if dems do sweep all houses it normally results with a strong dislike of the dominating party in a matter of a year so 2016 could turn out very good.
You're focusing on the wrong issues. This election isn't going to be about any of those items, which is why your analysis is all wrong. This election is going to be about economic and fiscal issues. Period. The problem for democrats is that they are very weak on these issues. Hell, they don't even have a plan for the country's fiscal issues, which is political lunacy as far as I am concerned.
Maybe you're the one focusing on the wrong issues? I know plenty of people who 6 months ago had no doubt in their mind they were going to be voting for the republican candidate whoever that ended up being, but now they have resigned themselves to the fact that they will be voting for Obama because all the other issues > economic issues to them. Just because lots of Republicans keep trying to say that this election is only going to be about economic issues doesn't mean that the rest of the country agrees with them, Republicans can't even keep their primaries about economic issues so what makes you think that they'll be able to keep it all about that in a national election when they're so weak in other areas that Democrats would have to be 100% clueless not to focus on those other areas?
You realize that all of the polls show fiscal and economic issues as being the most important, right? Democrats and Obama certainly will want to talk about social issues because they know that they're fucked on the economy right now.
Actually, anyone actually familiar with the issues and without partisan bias knows the policies of the Obama administration were the right way to go in the face of the economic crisis.
On March 22 2012 02:12 forgottendreams wrote: I feel bad for the repubs laying low from all the shellacking going on lately
Honestly you can't get much worse then this nomination race, any good candidates stayed out for 2016 and the repubs probably hit their peak not long ago.Not only that but the party is facing an identity crisis as religion declines, gay marriage support is now the majority and environmental reform is becoming more accepted. It's probably all down hill from here with dems retaking the House in 2015 maybe. On the bright side if dems do sweep all houses it normally results with a strong dislike of the dominating party in a matter of a year so 2016 could turn out very good.
You're focusing on the wrong issues. This election isn't going to be about any of those items, which is why your analysis is all wrong. This election is going to be about economic and fiscal issues. Period. The problem for democrats is that they are very weak on these issues. Hell, they don't even have a plan for the country's fiscal issues, which is political lunacy as far as I am concerned.
Maybe you're the one focusing on the wrong issues? I know plenty of people who 6 months ago had no doubt in their mind they were going to be voting for the republican candidate whoever that ended up being, but now they have resigned themselves to the fact that they will be voting for Obama because all the other issues > economic issues to them. Just because lots of Republicans keep trying to say that this election is only going to be about economic issues doesn't mean that the rest of the country agrees with them, Republicans can't even keep their primaries about economic issues so what makes you think that they'll be able to keep it all about that in a national election when they're so weak in other areas that Democrats would have to be 100% clueless not to focus on those other areas?
You realize that all of the polls show fiscal and economic issues as being the most important, right? Democrats and Obama certainly will want to talk about social issues because they know that they're fucked on the economy right now.
Actually, anyone actually familiar with the issues and without partisan bias knows the policies of the Obama administration were the right way to go in the face of the economic crisis.
This is largely irrelevant. The typical voter probably doesn't know which curve is "supply" and which is "demand."
On March 22 2012 02:12 forgottendreams wrote: I feel bad for the repubs laying low from all the shellacking going on lately
Honestly you can't get much worse then this nomination race, any good candidates stayed out for 2016 and the repubs probably hit their peak not long ago.Not only that but the party is facing an identity crisis as religion declines, gay marriage support is now the majority and environmental reform is becoming more accepted. It's probably all down hill from here with dems retaking the House in 2015 maybe. On the bright side if dems do sweep all houses it normally results with a strong dislike of the dominating party in a matter of a year so 2016 could turn out very good.
You're focusing on the wrong issues. This election isn't going to be about any of those items, which is why your analysis is all wrong. This election is going to be about economic and fiscal issues. Period. The problem for democrats is that they are very weak on these issues. Hell, they don't even have a plan for the country's fiscal issues, which is political lunacy as far as I am concerned.
Maybe you're the one focusing on the wrong issues? I know plenty of people who 6 months ago had no doubt in their mind they were going to be voting for the republican candidate whoever that ended up being, but now they have resigned themselves to the fact that they will be voting for Obama because all the other issues > economic issues to them. Just because lots of Republicans keep trying to say that this election is only going to be about economic issues doesn't mean that the rest of the country agrees with them, Republicans can't even keep their primaries about economic issues so what makes you think that they'll be able to keep it all about that in a national election when they're so weak in other areas that Democrats would have to be 100% clueless not to focus on those other areas?
You realize that all of the polls show fiscal and economic issues as being the most important, right? Democrats and Obama certainly will want to talk about social issues because they know that they're fucked on the economy right now.
Actually, anyone actually familiar with the issues and without partisan bias knows the policies of the Obama administration were the right way to go in the face of the economic crisis.
This is largely irrelevant. The typical voter probably doesn't know which curve is "supply" and which is "demand."
xDaunt is claiming Obama and the Democrats are weak on these issues when they're not - they just need to get the information across to uninformed voters better.
On March 22 2012 02:12 forgottendreams wrote: I feel bad for the repubs laying low from all the shellacking going on lately
Honestly you can't get much worse then this nomination race, any good candidates stayed out for 2016 and the repubs probably hit their peak not long ago.Not only that but the party is facing an identity crisis as religion declines, gay marriage support is now the majority and environmental reform is becoming more accepted. It's probably all down hill from here with dems retaking the House in 2015 maybe. On the bright side if dems do sweep all houses it normally results with a strong dislike of the dominating party in a matter of a year so 2016 could turn out very good.
You're focusing on the wrong issues. This election isn't going to be about any of those items, which is why your analysis is all wrong. This election is going to be about economic and fiscal issues. Period. The problem for democrats is that they are very weak on these issues. Hell, they don't even have a plan for the country's fiscal issues, which is political lunacy as far as I am concerned.
Maybe you're the one focusing on the wrong issues? I know plenty of people who 6 months ago had no doubt in their mind they were going to be voting for the republican candidate whoever that ended up being, but now they have resigned themselves to the fact that they will be voting for Obama because all the other issues > economic issues to them. Just because lots of Republicans keep trying to say that this election is only going to be about economic issues doesn't mean that the rest of the country agrees with them, Republicans can't even keep their primaries about economic issues so what makes you think that they'll be able to keep it all about that in a national election when they're so weak in other areas that Democrats would have to be 100% clueless not to focus on those other areas?
You realize that all of the polls show fiscal and economic issues as being the most important, right? Democrats and Obama certainly will want to talk about social issues because they know that they're fucked on the economy right now.
Actually, any Keynesian actually familiar with the issues and without partisan bias knows the policies of the Obama administration were the right way to go in the face of the economic crisis.
Though some indicators have shown a little improvement, Americans don't feel the improvement yet.
This is the crux of the situation, there's still so much uncertainty in the market which makes growth relatively stagnant. Employers are waiting and holding their breath to see what happens over this election to figure out their next move, its been this way since Obamacare was passed.
I have no democrat talking points, I'm not a democrat. I'm a swede, I vote for Swedish parties. You have no objective points what so ever, as has been shown throughout this thread. It's laughable that you claim otherwise.
It baffles me that you're still posting here, all you do is flame conservatives with your inherently condescending posts.
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