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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22551 Posts
January 22 2012 00:30 GMT
#6661
On January 22 2012 09:22 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 08:20 Adreme wrote:
On January 22 2012 06:38 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Honestly, I'd prefer Newt over Paul or Santorum, but I think Gingrich is too far on the right to reunite the country, too many liberals would seal themselves completely off, while Romney wouldn't be as effective of a leader but at least ease the tensions between Republicans and Democrats to get rid of gridlock in Congress.


Congress isnt gridlocked because of how far on the left or right the president is, they are gridlocked because it is the smart thing to do. Everytime the president signs a major bill his popularity goes up a bit, so if you are a republican who wants to have the white house what motivation do you have to give the president a victory on anything. That logical approach is what creates the gridlock that makes it impossible to do anything even if you offer everything the other side wants.


It's smart but accomplishes nothing. It just means we need 67% of congress to be either Republican or Democratic to get things done (vetoing everything Obama/President 45 doesn't like)


And that is a major major problem in american politic.
The opposition is more concerned about screwinig over whoever is in charge then doing there best to get concessions through for there supporters this gives a lot of situations where a goverment gets crippled.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 22 2012 00:32 GMT
#6662
Romney supposed to make a speech in less 15 minutes.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
January 22 2012 00:34 GMT
#6663
On January 22 2012 09:32 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Romney supposed to make a speech in less 15 minutes.

Have a stream of it somewhere? For some reason it's impossible to find a stream of a decent US newschannel.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 22 2012 00:38 GMT
#6664
On January 22 2012 09:34 Derez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 09:32 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Romney supposed to make a speech in less 15 minutes.

Have a stream of it somewhere? For some reason it's impossible to find a stream of a decent US newschannel.



http://www.c-span.org/Events/C-SPANs-South-Carolina-Primary-Coverage/10737427341-1/


??? No idea if they will show it though... Even checked AJE.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Pillage
Profile Joined July 2011
United States804 Posts
January 22 2012 00:39 GMT
#6665

I'm amazed at how little republicans seem to care about Newt's baggage. It seems like they respect his intellect and presentation so much (as compared to Romney's) that they're willing to overlook all of his other shortcomings.


I'd vote for him because I think he's the only one that can go head to head with Obama in a debate. I just can't see Romney doing well in that category. He's definitely a dick, but to me he's the only one that seems to have any charisma and capability of solving the big issues.
"Power has no limits." -Tiberius
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 00:51:09
January 22 2012 00:46 GMT
#6666
seems like it´s gonna be pretty close:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2012/by_state/SC_Page_0121.html?SITE=CSPANELN&SECTION=POLITICS

//edit:

hm it seems as if newt has won SC:

"Former speaker of the House Newt Gingrich has won the S.C. first-in-the-South primary, three networks have declared. "
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
January 22 2012 00:53 GMT
#6667
On January 22 2012 09:46 Doublemint wrote:
seems like it´s gonna be pretty close:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2012/by_state/SC_Page_0121.html?SITE=CSPANELN&SECTION=POLITICS

//edit:

hm it seems as if newt has won SC:

"Former speaker of the House Newt Gingrich has won the S.C. first-in-the-South primary, three networks have declared. "

So confusing. Every graph I look at has <15% est. reporting.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 00:56:08
January 22 2012 00:54 GMT
#6668
How effective would he be at solving anything though? His role when he was Speaker was a stonewaller. His reputation was built as an anti-solver more than anything else, which some people might prefer. But there's no question that he doesn't play well with others.

As of right now, none of them are standing toe to toe with Obama. There's three different winners for three different states and all of them have huge negative clouds surrounding them (from within their own party), and two of them aren't very good campaigners.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 00:55:34
January 22 2012 00:55 GMT
#6669
Looks like its gonna be 4 more years of Obama! :D

(Gingrich won South Carolina)
Housemd
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1407 Posts
January 22 2012 00:55 GMT
#6670
This is fucking hilarious. CNN is not even showing Ron Paul's vote totals on their site.
Fantasy is a beast
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
January 22 2012 00:56 GMT
#6671
On January 22 2012 09:54 Jibba wrote:
How effective would he be at solving anything though? His role when he was Speaker was a stonewaller. His reputation was built as an anti-solver more than anything else, which some people might prefer. But there's no question that he doesn't play well with others.

As of right now, none of them are standing toe to toe with Obama. There's three different winners for three different states and all of them huge negative clouds surrounding them, and two of them aren't very good campaigners.

Idk, part of me sees Republicans wanting that "doesn't play well with others" attitude. After all, many of the Republican Congressmen got where they are in 2010 because of their proposed aversion to compromise.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 22 2012 00:57 GMT
#6672
Here comes Romney.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 01:00:44
January 22 2012 00:57 GMT
#6673
On January 22 2012 09:55 Housemd wrote:
This is fucking hilarious. CNN is not even showing Ron Paul's vote totals on their site.


http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/primaries/state/sc

So hard to click around a website... It's not like they skipped over him. He's in last place in SC, and they only showed the top 3. OH NO!
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 22 2012 01:00 GMT
#6674
Really Romney is going to attack Obama...?
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 01:01:56
January 22 2012 01:01 GMT
#6675
"The hope of the Earth" lmfao.


On January 22 2012 10:00 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Really Romney is going to attack Obama...?


I think he wrote this speech anticipating beating Gingrich.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 22 2012 01:02 GMT
#6676
err Romney probably shouldn't mention class warfare.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
January 22 2012 01:03 GMT
#6677
On January 22 2012 09:56 aksfjh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 09:54 Jibba wrote:
How effective would he be at solving anything though? His role when he was Speaker was a stonewaller. His reputation was built as an anti-solver more than anything else, which some people might prefer. But there's no question that he doesn't play well with others.

As of right now, none of them are standing toe to toe with Obama. There's three different winners for three different states and all of them huge negative clouds surrounding them, and two of them aren't very good campaigners.

Idk, part of me sees Republicans wanting that "doesn't play well with others" attitude. After all, many of the Republican Congressmen got where they are in 2010 because of their proposed aversion to compromise.

They do, which works on Congressional elections. It doesn't work for the Presidency, however.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
January 22 2012 01:03 GMT
#6678
The fact that he's a mediocre public speaker isn't helping either.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 22 2012 01:04 GMT
#6679
That and it seems to be the exact same speech and isn't the best time to give a stump speech at that.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
January 22 2012 01:06 GMT
#6680
Not dropping out. No reason to watch anymore.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
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