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BobTheBuilder1377
Profile Joined August 2011
Somalia335 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-17 11:12:19
December 17 2011 09:58 GMT
#3561
On December 16 2011 22:37 aksfjh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2011 20:43 nebffa wrote:
On December 16 2011 19:31 kwizach wrote:
Nice column by Paul Krugman about Ron Paul's off-the-mark economic ideas.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/16/opinion/gop-monetary-madness.html


Just so everyone knows, in this article the guy plays down claims made by Peter Schiff about the economy. So that everyone knows, Peter Schiff was the main outspoken person prior to the mortgage crisis who predicted that there would be a market crash. He has consistently said since that like the housing market bubble, there is another bubble building in the treasury bond market. Though this has yet to pop, it is coming - he says. The author of this article says that the crash not happening is evidence that Peter Schiff is wrong.

However, Schiff has not said specifically when these things will happen, just general trends.

Yes, I watch Peter Schiff's videos - but only because his predictions about the economy come true. No economic adviser should be worth listening to if their predictions don't come true. This is one of the fewwwwwwwwwwwww people that has been a leader in getting it right the last couple of years. So I don't easily buy an article that goes to say Peter Schiff is wrong, along with Ron Paul

Schiff spends his days spouting nonsense that we're going to have another bust, every day! He's bound to be right eventually. If I keep liquibetting on the underdog in major tournaments, I'm sure I'll get a few right. Doesn't mean I know the next up-and-comer (or anything about SC2 for that matter).


Yeah! All nonsense!



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Also, Ron Paul killed it at the Jay Leno interview! Joe Rogan too!


Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11602 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-17 18:24:28
December 17 2011 10:58 GMT
#3562
You know what's nice about this interview, Leno actually gives Ron Paul space to speak. Quite unlike Hannity's interview. This isn't exclusive to Ron Paul though. I've become increasingly frustrated with interviews on major networks where if there is an opposing view very little effort is taken to let their interviewee speak. Instead the interviewer is combative and spends most of their time lecturing the person they're supposed to be interviewing.

I'm thinking in particular of an Christopher Hitchens interview where he finally demanded to know why they even bothered to put him on the show as they persisted to lecture to him the entire time and never let him get a word in edgewise. And I say that as a person who strongly disagrees with Hitchens and yet I still find this method of "interviewing" extremely irritating.


Edit
In another news, Ann Coulter actually making sense. In most case I absolutely despise the woman although I do have a soft spot for O'Reilly despite his buffoonery. But here's Coulter and O'Reilly's reaction to Gingerich wanting subpoena the courts/ rebalancing the balance of powers.

Coulter and O'Reilly: Gingerich and the Courts
Moderator5000 of our finest Taliban warriors have been released! Rise up my brothers. Mashalla! al-Donald ibn-Frederick al-Masih allows it.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-17 21:19:06
December 17 2011 21:18 GMT
#3563
From 2008.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
wswordsmen
Profile Joined October 2007
United States987 Posts
December 17 2011 21:31 GMT
#3564
This might have been posted already, but Nate Silver (who made a name for himself, in politics, in 2008 during the Obama Clinton primary) has come out with his model for predicting Iowa.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

As of the 15th Ron Paul has a 1% greater chance of winning Iowa than Romney (27% and 26%), while Gingrich is most likely to win (38%).
screamingpalm
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1527 Posts
December 17 2011 22:04 GMT
#3565
On the previous topic of the MSM manipulating public opinion, how about that "mistake" by Fox News inserting a picture of Obama in place of Romney showing poll numbers the other day lol. Honest mistake or subliminal manipulation? :D

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/404472/december-15-2011/fox-news--mitt-romney-photo-flub
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 18 2011 02:40 GMT
#3566
Congressman Ron Paul appeared on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno last night. Paul received a standing ovation when he entered the room and continuous cheers from the supportive audience during the three segments allotted to him by Leno. The appearance came at a time when Congressman Paul is under serious coordinated attack from Conservative Establishment talking heads on talk radio and other mediums because of his non-interventionist foreign policy beliefs.

Unlike other sound bite news interviews on the major networks, in this appearance Paul had sufficient time to express his libertarian views to a large mainstream audience. This conversation was largely an educational opportunity for Congressman Paul to promote his brand of liberty, but he also made some major news during the interview. When asked about his rivals in the Presidential race, Paul said about Congresswoman Michele Bachmann.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
SoLaR[i.C]
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States2969 Posts
December 18 2011 02:46 GMT
#3567
God I love Ron Paul.

If only there were a non-religious version of him. He'd be damn near perfect.
Keyboard Warrior
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1178 Posts
December 18 2011 02:50 GMT
#3568
Ron Paul is very articulate and intense and cool.
If only he tone down a bit on religion
Not your regular Keyboard Warrior ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
December 18 2011 03:03 GMT
#3569
Oh man, Ron Paul is just so cool. Even if you disagree with his beliefs/policies, you gotta admit the guy has style.
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
December 18 2011 03:11 GMT
#3570
This could be similar to the 2008 primaries, with Newt playing the role of Mccain, Paul playing the role of Huckabee and Romney playing himself. Like Mccain, Gingrich's campaign was kind of on the brink earlier in the year with some key people dropping out, but now he is showing up in the polls at crunch time when it matters. Paul could pull off a win in Iowa like Huckabee but not get any real support outside of the rural states. Mitt Romney will go smooth sailing into another 2nd place finish.

I hope that's not the case because that means Gingrich will get the nomination, and I'd prefer a bucket of vomit over Gingrich. That would be the darkest timeline. Gingrich appears to be doing well in Florida polls which is not a good sign =[
BobTheBuilder1377
Profile Joined August 2011
Somalia335 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-18 03:12:32
December 18 2011 03:11 GMT
#3571
On December 18 2011 11:50 Keyboard Warrior wrote:
Ron Paul is very articulate and intense and cool.
If only he tone down a bit on religion


He hasn't been that loud on religion...and you would think people would care more about this anti-war stance than his own personal religious belief. Oh and btw Obama is pretty religious too yet, you don't see him force his religious beliefs onto us now do you?
Kiarip
Profile Joined August 2008
United States1835 Posts
December 18 2011 03:18 GMT
#3572
On December 16 2011 19:31 kwizach wrote:
Nice column by Paul Krugman about Ron Paul's off-the-mark economic ideas.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/16/opinion/gop-monetary-madness.html

paul krugman is a clown, I love reading his stuff when I want to read something that's stupid and wrong.
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11602 Posts
December 18 2011 03:27 GMT
#3573
Wow. I need to cleanse my mind after reading several comment section on some of these articles on Republican candidates.
I swear most of them consist of hurling insults at each other. Any sort of comment is met with troll, Paultard, Paulbot, Paulcultists, neo-con idiots, kool-aid drinking, fear mongering lunatic, lefty talking points, and idiot RINO's.

Thank you to Team Liquid for keeping this a sanctuary for reasonable discussion and disagreement!
Moderator5000 of our finest Taliban warriors have been released! Rise up my brothers. Mashalla! al-Donald ibn-Frederick al-Masih allows it.
Carson
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada820 Posts
December 18 2011 03:40 GMT
#3574
I read this to remember why I'm happy with Canada.

But cool interview by Leno with RP.

I wonder if the Republicans will get a clear leader in time to do something useful in the election. I hope that it's a good race, I love hearing the promises that come out when it's a close one

"You have to remember something: Everybody pities the weak; jealousy you have to earn." Arnold Schwarzenegger
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-18 03:58:03
December 18 2011 03:57 GMT
#3575
I really don't understand how people are saying if Ron Paul wins Iowa it will be good news for Romney, even if Newt gets 2nd. Whoever comes out on top in Iowa will get much needed funding and possibly support nationwide. As for Romney wins New Hampshire, so? Doesn't mean anything if he can't carry Florida, or South Carolina.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
December 18 2011 04:05 GMT
#3576
The more of Ron Paul i see, the more i like...

I might even vote him over Obama if he gets the nomination. It's going to be a battle though between Gingrich and Romney and him though (if i could vote)
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
OsoVega
Profile Joined December 2010
926 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-18 04:15:51
December 18 2011 04:07 GMT
#3577
Here are a couple videos that I strongly agree with.

My only issue with this video is that the threat of Iran isn't so dramatic as a nuke going off in Manhattan but I do believe that Iran is a real threat to the US. Even if you completely agree with Ron Paul's foreign policy, there are other important points that really make Ron Paul completely unacceptable as president.

And the rest of the candidates are such jokes that I think any rational person can see are complete garbage. All candidates that have a shot at the nomination are so bad I'm almost thinking it would be better for Obama to win so at least the right won't simply turn into cheerleaders and so that capitalism won't be blamed for the coming disaster.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46309 Posts
December 18 2011 04:08 GMT
#3578
The Leno/ Ron Paul interview was pretty awesome. The crowd totally loved him, and it was more of a casual conversation than an interrogation.

Definitely a fan of Ron Paul.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
lizzard_warish
Profile Joined June 2011
589 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-18 04:10:38
December 18 2011 04:10 GMT
#3579
On December 18 2011 12:57 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
I really don't understand how people are saying if Ron Paul wins Iowa it will be good news for Romney, even if Newt gets 2nd. Whoever comes out on top in Iowa will get much needed funding and possibly support nationwide. As for Romney wins New Hampshire, so? Doesn't mean anything if he can't carry Florida, or South Carolina.
If Newt cant win Iowa after the substantial lead he had there, in a state many consider perfectly hostile to Romney, then people are going to start to doubt Gingrich's overall electability. Frankly a third place Romney finish is more impressive than a 2nd place Gingrich, which builds momentum.

Ron Paul is never going to have a vibrant national campaign.
only_human89
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States212 Posts
December 18 2011 04:13 GMT
#3580
Ron Paul can't "tone down" on his religious beliefs. It would be political suicide. He would never get elected in this country. That's about as moderate as you're going to see a U.S. politician get.
"You're a pathetic, jerk, loser, and I wouldn't kiss you if I had brain cancer and your lips were the cure" LOOOOL
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