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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
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koreasilver
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On December 15 2011 04:28 lizzard_warish wrote: Really? I love how everyone plays themselves the ignorant fool in order to amp up pretend exasperation with politics they dont like. Durrrr christine odonnel is known as very right wing, durrerprpyderrpydurrr romney has questions over his conservative principles, durrrr odonnel is helpful in shoring that up. Idiot. Even with all the Republican hate Romney was still doing very well and he was consistently high in the polls, despite the fact that so many people were out to get him. If he just stayed in a stable posture and rode it out he probably would have been completely fine. But now he's making all these really stupid moves that is making it easier for his opponents to target him, and it really is confusing as to why he felt the need to hire these very divisive figures to speak for him. Fuck off quietly. | ||
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Kiarip
United States1835 Posts
On December 14 2011 23:13 DetriusXii wrote: Wrong. The reason why health care is more affordable in employee group plans is because of adverse selection that happens under individual plans. Young and healthy adults lower the risk when they enter a group plan. However, in an individual plan, young and healthy adults also don't see the need for buying health insurance and so they decide to opt out. This raises the risk for other, older adults. Group plans minimize this risk, and the socialized systems minimize this risk even further. There is never a way for a individual plan to be more efficient than a group plan. The socialized systems are able to reduce costs even further because doctors and hospitals only have to deal with one insurer, the government, and they get more efficient (learning by doing) when they don't end up having to deal with multiple insurers. The government doesn't need to provide a marketing campaign either. And how is this a good thing, you decrease the cost of health insurance at the expense of the young and healthy... | ||
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DetriusXii
Canada156 Posts
On December 15 2011 09:22 Kiarip wrote: And how is this a good thing, you decrease the cost of health insurance at the expense of the young and healthy... You'll get old eventually and you have no way of knowing if you're going to have children or not have children and you have no way of knowing if you'll leave behind a spouse or not. | ||
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AegonC
United States260 Posts
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Fleebenworth
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On December 16 2011 12:26 AegonC wrote: I'm watching the Fox News Debate and so far it looks like Ron Paul is the only sane person in the debate. Ron Paul actually understands that the reason Muslim extremists are targeting us is because we're in their country killing them and bombing them nonstop. Americans need to put themselves in the shoes of people in Afghanistan and Iraq and realize how mad they would be. Ron Paul has got my vote. Whoa stop using logic, GOP doesn't like that. On other note, I dunno why there's a giant shitstorm about Ron Paul's stance on Iran... | ||
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Fleebenworth
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TritaN
United States406 Posts
On December 16 2011 12:33 wei2coolman wrote: Whoa stop using logic, GOP doesn't like that. On other note, I dunno why there's a giant shitstorm about Ron Paul's stance on Iran... The potential problem here is that Iran is a whole other beast. We're not talking about Soviet Russia here. One of the candidates brought up the fact that Iran values martyrdom over any other virtue, thus rendering the threat of Mutually Assured Destruction irrelevant. No other country in the history of the world has simultaneously wielded the power of nuclear weapons and had the desire to purposely and deliberately die for a cause they believe in (which in this case is problematic because that cause happens to be Jihad.) I really hate to say it, because I agree with and support Ron Paul on so many of his stances, but the other candidates were right when they said that ignoring a nuclear Iran could be the greatest under-reaction in the history of the world. | ||
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BlackJack
United States10180 Posts
On December 16 2011 12:26 AegonC wrote: I'm watching the Fox News Debate and so far it looks like Ron Paul is the only sane person in the debate. Ron Paul actually understands that the reason Muslim extremists are targeting us is because we're in their country killing them and bombing them nonstop. Americans need to put themselves in the shoes of people in Afghanistan and Iraq and realize how mad they would be. Ron Paul has got my vote. Pretty sure there have been just as many terrorist attacks in the last years for simply insulting muslims as there have been for bombing muslims. Look at the cartoonists that have been attacked or murdered, the suicide bombing in Scandinavia, the embassy attack where people were slaughtered in response to a qur'an burning in Florida, etc. | ||
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Fleebenworth
463 Posts
On December 16 2011 12:40 TritaN wrote: The potential problem here is that Iran is a whole other beast. We're not talking about Soviet Russia here. One of the candidates brought up the fact that Iran values martyrdom over any other virtue, thus rendering the threat of Mutually Assured Destruction irrelevant. No other country in the history of the world has simultaneously wielded the power of nuclear weapons and had the desire to purposely and deliberately die for a cause they believe in (which in this case is problematic because that cause happens to be Jihad.) I really hate to say it, because I agree with and support Ron Paul on so many of his stances, but the other candidates were right when they said that ignoring a nuclear Iran could be the greatest under-reaction in the history of the world. Bolded for hilarity | ||
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Fleebenworth
463 Posts
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NtroP
United States174 Posts
Thinking for yourself is hard for some people. However, once you can the world actually makes a lot more sense. | ||
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TritaN
United States406 Posts
Please, elaborate. | ||
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Fleebenworth
463 Posts
Where to start? Countries are not unitary entities but are actually composed of millions of people with diverse values and beliefs, Iranian culture is actually quite socially progressive compared to the other countries in the region (despite the caricatures you have been indoctrinated with), if the people that are now trying to scaremonger about Iran had any shred of seriousness, they wouldn't have all supported the Iraq invasion, etc. Oh and America is the only country to ever use nuclear weapons and the stockpiles of Russia, Israel, the US, and Pakistan are much more dangerous than any nukes Iran may develop in the near future. The tension we are experiencing with Iran has much more to do with the fact that they are one of the sole powers that opposes the Israeli/American hegemony in the region and much less to do with them being evil crazy muslims that want to kill us all and hate our freedom. | ||
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unit
United States2621 Posts
On December 16 2011 12:33 wei2coolman wrote: Whoa stop using logic, GOP doesn't like that. On other note, I dunno why there's a giant shitstorm about Ron Paul's stance on Iran... because its "against the military" | ||
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Harbinger631
United States376 Posts
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HardlyNever
United States1258 Posts
I think it is different for Republicans this time, though. The hard-core right wingers have been allowed a much bigger say than usual, and they are using that say to put their candidates to insane "conservative" litmus tests. So much so, that for any successful candidate to win the GOP nomination, he almost has to forfeit the general election, because of the ridiculous stances he has to take to appease the hardcore base. Basically, the powers in the GOP have gotten increasingly insane, and it is killing that party's chance at winning a general election once they get out of crazy land. | ||
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GleefulPiXie
Canada76 Posts
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HardlyNever
United States1258 Posts
On December 16 2011 12:56 Fleebenworth wrote: Where to start? Countries are not unitary entities but are actually composed of millions of people with diverse values and beliefs, Iranian culture is actually quite socially progressive compared to the other countries in the region (despite the caricatures you have been indoctrinated with), if the people that are now trying to scaremonger about Iran had any shred of seriousness, they wouldn't have all supported the Iraq invasion, etc. Oh and America is the only country to ever use nuclear weapons and the stockpiles of Russia, Israel, the US, and Pakistan are much more dangerous than any nukes Iran may develop in the near future. The tension we are experiencing with Iran has much more to do with the fact that they are one of the sole powers that opposes the Israeli/American hegemony in the region and much less to do with them being evil crazy muslims that want to kill us all and hate our freedom. I want to agree with you, I really do. But youtube just about any Ahmadinejad speech (his one at the UN is pretty good), and it is hard to NOT believe that stereotype. That's not to say he speaks for all Iranians, but he is their elected leader. | ||
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