why am i not surprized to see this act coming from china... ? actually, this bothers and upsets me more, than a terrorist, or a spreekiller.
there are just too much of those yellow/black people. 1 mrd in india, and 1.2 mrd in china.. we have to find a chemical solution for castrating their whole countries and stop their expansion. they are just too much.
On August 13 2011 03:38 darkscream wrote: Why is it always China doing horrible shit?
Also, Capitalism/Communism has absolutely nothing to do with animal rights you fucking mongoloids. This is why I hate political threads on TL, half you guys don't even know the difference between forms of government and economy.
Sorry for the suffering of the bears.
China = getting stronger and stronger economically = getting more and more media coverage
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On August 13 2011 03:44 JohnnyReverb wrote: why am i not surprized to see this act coming from china... ? actually, this bothers and upsets me more, than a terrorist, or a spreekiller.
there are just too much of those yellow/black people. 1 mrd in india, and 1.2 mrd in china.. we have to find a chemical solution for castrating their whole countries and stop their expansion. they are just too much.
On August 13 2011 00:11 absalom86 wrote: There are some videos from these " farms "... it's absolutely inhumane and disgusting torture. The bears are locked up in a tiny cage from a young age and never let out, with a big hole in their side to extract the bile.
Here's some pictures from one of these farms.
Thats one of the most disturbing things i have ever seen, makes me wonder what kind of monster can do this for a living. If there was such thing in my country i am sure me and many other ppl wouldnt rest untill it was shut down but the fucking chinese are just a joke when it comes to animal rights.
On August 13 2011 00:11 absalom86 wrote: There are some videos from these " farms "... it's absolutely inhumane and disgusting torture. The bears are locked up in a tiny cage from a young age and never let out, with a big hole in their side to extract the bile.
Thats one of the most disturbing things i have ever seen, makes me wonder what kind of monster can do this for a living. If there was such thing in my country i am sure me and many other ppl wouldnt rest untill it was shut down but the fucking chinese are just a joke when it comes to animal rights.
Animal rights need to be improved in many places, not just in China.
On August 13 2011 03:53 Blasterion wrote: Because europeans bashing asian coumtries on a european site is totally a right thing to do
Not sure how you could defend China on something like this and what this has to do with "Europeans?" The only thing I can see is blind nationalism coming from you. There is no excuse for this at all... it's disgusting. Even Jackie Chan doesn't agree. He's not European is he?
If this were happening in Europe, North America.... anywhere with a decent government not only would there be massive outrage but it also would be shut down instantly. YES we kill pigs, cows, chickens for food but we don't slowly extract their juices from them over a course of 10 years for a medicine that has alternatives.
On August 13 2011 03:53 Blasterion wrote: Because europeans bashing asian coumtries on a european site is totally a right thing to do
We bash what needs to be bashed you know what i said is true your country is a joke when it comes to animal rights civil rights aswell but thats another story and i am a sensitive guy when it comes to animal torture i should have never opened this thread now i am pissed off. I can honestly say that if a bear farm was operating in my country and the government wouldn't shut it down someone would just grab a gun and solve the problem by their own hands when it comes to china i don't know if people over there are just fine with this or if they are just cowards.
On August 13 2011 03:53 Blasterion wrote: Because europeans bashing asian coumtries on a european site is totally a right thing to do
Not sure how you could defend China on something like this and what this has to do with "Europeans?" The only thing I can see is blind nationalism coming from you. There is no excuse for this at all... it's disgusting. Even Jackie Chan doesn't agree. He's not European is he?
If this were happening in Europe, North America.... anywhere with a decent government not only would there be massive outrage but it also would be shut down instantly. YES we kill pigs, cows, chickens for food but we don't slowly extract their juices from them over a course of 10 years for a medicine that has alternatives.
Never thought what they did was right. Just saying what you Europeans are doing for what it is
On August 13 2011 00:11 absalom86 wrote: There are some videos from these " farms "... it's absolutely inhumane and disgusting torture. The bears are locked up in a tiny cage from a young age and never let out, with a big hole in their side to extract the bile.
Thats one of the most disturbing things i have ever seen, makes me wonder what kind of monster can do this for a living. If there was such thing in my country i am sure me and many other ppl wouldnt rest untill it was shut down but the fucking chinese are just a joke when it comes to animal rights.
So are you currently planning to do anything against slaughterhouses run by large corporations? Those are pretty abundant here in the West. What about several cosmetic and clothing brands who also treat animals cruelly, except they do so to feed consumers' superficial needs rather than for medical reasons.
Seriously get real and take your racist, knee-jerk opinions elsewhere? The fact that you draw this conclusion from a sensationalist 1 minute 30 second youtube video is even more hilarious.
I'm not defending this, but don't put yourself on a pedastel and assume animal cruelty is exclusive only to China.
This is seriously fucked up. I really do not understand how people can get up in the morning and work a day in one of these farms without realising that what they are doing is fucking wrong. Every single person that works there, especially whoever is in charge, should be locked and up and forgotten about.
On August 13 2011 04:06 Inori wrote: How can you "leave the animal rights and treatment discussion out of this topic." when it's exactly about it?
I mean, yes, the fact that mother bear kills her cub/herself is heart breaking, but the real problem here that should be discussed and hopefully got as much attention as possible is the reason why she did this - the treatment they had to suffer through due to lack of animal right.
The bear bile farming is seriously fucked up and should be banned ASAP.
On August 13 2011 04:06 Inori wrote: How can you "leave the animal rights and treatment discussion out of this topic." when it's exactly about it?
I mean, yes, the fact that mother bear kills her cub/herself is heart breaking, but the real problem here that should be discussed and hopefully got as much attention as possible is the reason why she did this - the treatment they had to suffer through due to lack of animal right.
The bear bile farming is seriously fucked up and should be banned ASAP.
Because based on the OP, the discussion is more whether or not the mother bear consciously killed her cub out of compassion, and then killed herself to escape the conditions OR if the bear was just on a rampage and was killed out of some circumstance that did not imply suicide.
On August 13 2011 00:11 absalom86 wrote: There are some videos from these " farms "... it's absolutely inhumane and disgusting torture. The bears are locked up in a tiny cage from a young age and never let out, with a big hole in their side to extract the bile.
Thats one of the most disturbing things i have ever seen, makes me wonder what kind of monster can do this for a living. If there was such thing in my country i am sure me and many other ppl wouldnt rest untill it was shut down but the fucking chinese are just a joke when it comes to animal rights.
So are you currently planning to do anything against slaughterhouses run by large corporations? Those are pretty abundant here in the West. What about several cosmetic and clothing brands who also treat animals cruelly, except they do so to feed consumers' superficial needs rather than for medical reasons.
Seriously get real and take your racist, knee-jerk opinions elsewhere? The fact that you draw this conclusion from a sensationalist 1 minute 30 second youtube video is even more hilarious.
I'm not defending this, but don't put yourself on a pedastel and assume animal cruelty is exclusive only to China.
Cant you understand the difference between a legal slaughterhouse and this madness or you just want to make the easy and usual argument? You actually understand the amount of pain this bears suffer cannot be compared to the pain suffered by animals from a legal slaughterhouse and you understand this bear bilis is not needed at all right? Now i know there are some slaughterhouses that dont respect regulations but thats something the general public cannot control and thats when i like to believe my government is doing his job by doing regular inspections.
I'm a firm believer that a few strips of Bacon could be used as an alternative medicine instead bear bile. And I'm sure it's 1000x more delicious as well. Also, no animals are hurt in the creation of Bacon, as it is grown on trees in heaven... or that's my understanding of it at least.
On August 13 2011 04:03 KevinBacon wrote: We bash what needs to be bashed you know what i said is true your country is a joke when it comes to animal rights civil rights aswell but thats another story and i am a sensitive guy when it comes to animal torture i should have never opened this thread now i am pissed off. I can honestly say that if a bear farm was operating in my country and the government wouldn't shut it down someone would just grab a gun and solve the problem by their own hands when it comes to china i don't know if people over there are just fine with this or if they are just cowards.
I'm sorry, but what gives you the right to judge 1.3 billion people as cowards Mr. Holier-than-thou?
On August 13 2011 03:53 Blasterion wrote: Because europeans bashing asian coumtries on a european site is totally a right thing to do
We bash what needs to be bashed you know what i said is true your country is a joke when it comes to animal rights civil rights aswell but thats another story and i am a sensitive guy when it comes to animal torture i should have never opened this thread now i am pissed off. I can honestly say that if a bear farm was operating in my country and the government wouldn't shut it down someone would just grab a gun and solve the problem by their own hands when it comes to china i don't know if people over there are just fine with this or if they are just cowards.
Killing people over animals....doing lives of your kins mean nothing to you? I mean at least these people only torturing animals, compared to you who is out for blood of people