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Ru ba
Profile Joined February 2014
Serbia1812 Posts
May 04 2014 10:36 GMT
#1741
On May 04 2014 12:58 Epishade wrote:
What is the easiest way to lose friends?

playing dota with them
u gotta farm
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
May 04 2014 13:41 GMT
#1742
but you treat 2(9+3) as 2 * 12, so 48 / 2 * 12.

My TI-89 says 288 as well.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11507 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-04 13:52:49
May 04 2014 13:52 GMT
#1743
Solution:

Use clearer terms so people don't get confused. More brackets, or fractions, work better then long strings of numbers leaving people to figure stuff out. Neither

48/(2(9+3))

or

48
_____
2*(9+3)

can be misinterpreted.
Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
May 04 2014 15:08 GMT
#1744
Actually the original question cannot be misinterpreted, unless you lack basic arithmetic skills.

He asked 48/2*(9+3).

The correct order to evaluate this is brackets -> exponent -> multiplication/division -> addition/subtraction. The mistake orcas made was to assume that some how the divide operator acts on all terms to it's right, which it doesn't. He also ignored his own rule of division before multiplication (not that it matters!).

48/2*(9+3) becomes 48 / 2 * 12, which can be evaluated in any order, ie three possibilities:
48/2 = 24, 24*12 = 288;
12/2 = 6, 6 * 48 = 288;
48 * 12 = 576, 576 / 2 = 288;

Come on guys this is primary level stuff .
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MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-04 15:20:49
May 04 2014 15:20 GMT
#1745
On May 05 2014 00:08 Rollin wrote:
He also ignored his own rule of division before multiplication (not that it matters!).

Actually I believe that equal operations act at the same time. I may be incorrect though.
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
May 04 2014 15:57 GMT
#1746
The problem can be rewritten more clearly as (48)*(1/2)*(9+3) to see that the order doesn't matter or just as (48/2)(9+3), but 48/2(9+3) is ambiguous because it is unclear if the whole 2(9+3) is supposed to be in the denominator or not.
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
May 04 2014 20:10 GMT
#1747
What's the deal with haikus? I just don't get it, is the specific number of syllables something that makes them special? Every time i read a haiku it's just random sentences to me.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
May 04 2014 20:11 GMT
#1748
It's just a dumb meme
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Coppermantis
Profile Joined June 2012
United States845 Posts
May 04 2014 20:38 GMT
#1749
On May 04 2014 19:06 Entirety wrote:
The original question was 48÷2(9+3) and not 48÷(2(9+3)) though

He's right. After you do the brackets, you'd have 48/2*12, so you start left and go right.

24*12

288
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
May 04 2014 22:10 GMT
#1750
On May 05 2014 05:10 nttea wrote:
What's the deal with haikus? I just don't get it, is the specific number of syllables something that makes them special? Every time i read a haiku it's just random sentences to me.


Haikus don't make sense
Everyone I know, knows this
And now you do too
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
May 04 2014 22:11 GMT
#1751
Why the hell do they make us write about stupid stuff in high school? It seems like I waste all of my time defending positions or writing about stuff that I give zero shits about. I wish I could write about something that I personally find emotionally moving or something that I find interesting, not about what my school decides is important.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
May 04 2014 22:43 GMT
#1752
On May 05 2014 07:11 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
Why the hell do they make us write about stupid stuff in high school? It seems like I waste all of my time defending positions or writing about stuff that I give zero shits about. I wish I could write about something that I personally find emotionally moving or something that I find interesting, not about what my school decides is important.

Basically the point is to learn the principles of having a point and defending it with evidence. Pretty much any essay you will ever write is an argument of some sort with varying levels of bias and nuance (even if you're talking about the ideology of some character in an 18th century short story, you're still making a point that can be challenged and defending it with your own reasoning and evidence). So in the very beginning they pick something that everyone knows at least something about (like the most generic one, uniforms) so you can focus on the arguing instead of getting stuck trying to work your way around the issue at hand. Then they specialize the essays until your writing is more nuanced and less one-sided.
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MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
May 04 2014 22:49 GMT
#1753
On May 05 2014 07:43 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 07:11 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
Why the hell do they make us write about stupid stuff in high school? It seems like I waste all of my time defending positions or writing about stuff that I give zero shits about. I wish I could write about something that I personally find emotionally moving or something that I find interesting, not about what my school decides is important.

Basically the point is to learn the principles of having a point and defending it with evidence. Pretty much any essay you will ever write is an argument of some sort with varying levels of bias and nuance (even if you're talking about the ideology of some character in an 18th century short story, you're still making a point that can be challenged and defending it with your own reasoning and evidence). So in the very beginning they pick something that everyone knows at least something about (like the most generic one, uniforms) so you can focus on the arguing instead of getting stuck trying to work your way around the issue at hand. Then they specialize the essays until your writing is more nuanced and less one-sided.

Except that that's not what my school does at all. The topics of my English essays this year: an autobiography, my "greatest moment," my "worst moment," my "happy place" (wtf, lol?), my prized possession, the person whom I admire the most, and I had to write some stupid thing for the guidance department of my school.

None of these essays teach rhetoric or how to form an argument (they teach us that skill in freshman & sophomore years apparently), and they're basically just to make sure you're functionally literate and can express your thoughts clearly. They might be to prepare us for writing college application essays, but they still seem pretty useless. Some of the topics I can at least express my actual thoughts and beliefs without fabricating anything, but some of them are just utter nonsense and are really stupid (my happy place, really???).
Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
May 04 2014 22:50 GMT
#1754
On May 05 2014 07:11 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
Why the hell do they make us write about stupid stuff in high school? It seems like I waste all of my time defending positions or writing about stuff that I give zero shits about. I wish I could write about something that I personally find emotionally moving or something that I find interesting, not about what my school decides is important.

It's to engage you properly so you can further your understanding of topics you may not be familiar with.

Lol.
Pinhead Larry in the streets, Dirty Dan in the sheets.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
May 04 2014 22:51 GMT
#1755
Where is MtlGuitarist97s happy place?
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
May 04 2014 22:52 GMT
#1756
On May 05 2014 07:51 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Where is MtlGuitarist97s happy place?

Evidently not my school.
Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
May 04 2014 23:05 GMT
#1757
On May 05 2014 07:51 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Where is MtlGuitarist97s happy place?

I'm willing to bet it's his school.
Pinhead Larry in the streets, Dirty Dan in the sheets.
phar
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1080 Posts
May 04 2014 23:23 GMT
#1758
Writing is probably the single most (academic) important thing you can learn in high school.
Who after all is today speaking about the destruction of the Armenians?
PinheadXXXXXX
Profile Joined February 2012
United States897 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-05 03:33:56
May 05 2014 03:19 GMT
#1759
On May 05 2014 07:49 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 07:43 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On May 05 2014 07:11 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
Why the hell do they make us write about stupid stuff in high school? It seems like I waste all of my time defending positions or writing about stuff that I give zero shits about. I wish I could write about something that I personally find emotionally moving or something that I find interesting, not about what my school decides is important.

Basically the point is to learn the principles of having a point and defending it with evidence. Pretty much any essay you will ever write is an argument of some sort with varying levels of bias and nuance (even if you're talking about the ideology of some character in an 18th century short story, you're still making a point that can be challenged and defending it with your own reasoning and evidence). So in the very beginning they pick something that everyone knows at least something about (like the most generic one, uniforms) so you can focus on the arguing instead of getting stuck trying to work your way around the issue at hand. Then they specialize the essays until your writing is more nuanced and less one-sided.

Except that that's not what my school does at all. The topics of my English essays this year: an autobiography, my "greatest moment," my "worst moment," my "happy place" (wtf, lol?), my prized possession, the person whom I admire the most, and I had to write some stupid thing for the guidance department of my school.

None of these essays teach rhetoric or how to form an argument (they teach us that skill in freshman & sophomore years apparently), and they're basically just to make sure you're functionally literate and can express your thoughts clearly. They might be to prepare us for writing college application essays, but they still seem pretty useless. Some of the topics I can at least express my actual thoughts and beliefs without fabricating anything, but some of them are just utter nonsense and are really stupid (my happy place, really???).

Do you not read anything in English class or something?
Taeja the one true Byunjwa~
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
May 05 2014 04:48 GMT
#1760
On May 05 2014 07:49 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 07:43 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On May 05 2014 07:11 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
Why the hell do they make us write about stupid stuff in high school? It seems like I waste all of my time defending positions or writing about stuff that I give zero shits about. I wish I could write about something that I personally find emotionally moving or something that I find interesting, not about what my school decides is important.

Basically the point is to learn the principles of having a point and defending it with evidence. Pretty much any essay you will ever write is an argument of some sort with varying levels of bias and nuance (even if you're talking about the ideology of some character in an 18th century short story, you're still making a point that can be challenged and defending it with your own reasoning and evidence). So in the very beginning they pick something that everyone knows at least something about (like the most generic one, uniforms) so you can focus on the arguing instead of getting stuck trying to work your way around the issue at hand. Then they specialize the essays until your writing is more nuanced and less one-sided.

Except that that's not what my school does at all. The topics of my English essays this year: an autobiography, my "greatest moment," my "worst moment," my "happy place" (wtf, lol?), my prized possession, the person whom I admire the most, and I had to write some stupid thing for the guidance department of my school.

None of these essays teach rhetoric or how to form an argument (they teach us that skill in freshman & sophomore years apparently), and they're basically just to make sure you're functionally literate and can express your thoughts clearly. They might be to prepare us for writing college application essays, but they still seem pretty useless. Some of the topics I can at least express my actual thoughts and beliefs without fabricating anything, but some of them are just utter nonsense and are really stupid (my happy place, really???).


If you can't make arguments on those topics then you must be terrible at making arguments.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
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