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Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
April 30 2014 22:18 GMT
#1701
On May 01 2014 06:03 Dark_Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2014 05:33 kochanfe wrote:
On April 29 2014 06:45 WiggyB wrote:
Is the term bonjwa just a broodwar term?
You've heard heard of all the broodwar bonjwa. (flash, July etc) never heard of a starcraft 2 bonjwa. Is there a set achievement you have to accomplish be called a bonjwa? (like the golden mouse or something?)

I would have thought that MVP in his prime would have been considered bonjwas.
Is it just that no one had been dominant for a long enough period in starcraft 2 to be a bonjwa?


The term bonjwa refers to a player who is completely and utterly dominant (seems nearly unbeatable) for a certain period of time. No, there is no specific requirement for being a bonjwa, but no player in SC2 has attained quite that level of dominance. In BW, BoxeR, NaDa, iloveoov, sAviOr, and Flash were considered bonjwas (not July though )

So ken in melee?
Does Hearthstone have someone like that?


Ken definitely fits the description, idk anything about hearthstone so I can't comment.

The thing about MVP was while he did win a lot, he was often counted out and then made another crazy run through everyone to win. A bonjwa is someone where it would be an upset for them to not win the whole tournament for a long duration of time.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
April 30 2014 22:25 GMT
#1702
John the Translator on the term "Bonjwa"

+ Show Spoiler +
Here's my essay about the controversial term 'Bonjwa'

1) It is a term that originated from Bhudism, that one uses to call oneself when reaching certain level of self awareness and realization. Therefore it is in fact grammatically/conceptually incorrect to call someone else other than yourself bonjwa. Only you can define whether you are bonjwa or not.

2) In modern days it is used to call anyone who does some noteworthy achievement or has obtained highest status. A politician in charge of certain party calls himself bonjwa, singer who has gained long term popularity is called bonjwa, an illegal porn uploader was called bonjwa(the notorious 김본좌) for uploading so many porn in such short time. It is NOT a sacred word and can be put to use for almost any achievement.

3) In starcraft(and I mean Korean starcraft scene) scene it was first put to use for Savior. Ever since that it became a term to call a dominant player. However, every fan has their own definition of who is bonjwa or not. The dominant claim is the 4 bonjwa in Korean SC history are Boxer, Nada, iloveoov, Savior, but even among Koreans there are many disagreements on this. and NO Flash/Jaedong are not normally considered Bonjwa(but if you want them to be bonjwa they can be, as this is not a set rule).

4) Just like the term Gosu, you don't need to win certain number of OSL/MSL or be dominant for certain duration of time or have certain number of winrate to be called bopnjwa. everyone can have their own definition and you can't really justify and say "Only who and who is bonjwa and you other people should not call this or that bonjwa".

5) All this argument over the definition is pointless because nowdays no Korean even uses the term Bonjwa in Starcraft scene. This is NOT because there is nobody worthy to be called bonjwa but because ever since the incident with the last bonjwa, savior, the word became tainted and somewhat taboo. You mention bonjwa to a Korean SC fan and the first name that will be pop up will be Savior, the doombringer of esports, he who must not be named.

6) I don't mind foreign sc fans using the term as they see fit. As incorrectly as it is used, same can be said most internet phrases, and it is nothing more than a trend. What drives me CRAZY is when I see someone try to force HIS/HER definition of bonjwa to other people. You may claim that I am doing the same thing as those bonjwa nazi, through this thread but sorry you can't do that because I'm bonjwa when it comes to defining bonjwa and I acknowledge noone else as bonjwa in this area
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
April 30 2014 23:42 GMT
#1703
hearthstone has a lot of talent flying around. no hero yet.
Countdown to victory: 1 200!
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
April 30 2014 23:54 GMT
#1704
why is the world my oyster
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
April 30 2014 23:54 GMT
#1705
On May 01 2014 07:18 Najda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2014 06:03 Dark_Chill wrote:
On May 01 2014 05:33 kochanfe wrote:
On April 29 2014 06:45 WiggyB wrote:
Is the term bonjwa just a broodwar term?
You've heard heard of all the broodwar bonjwa. (flash, July etc) never heard of a starcraft 2 bonjwa. Is there a set achievement you have to accomplish be called a bonjwa? (like the golden mouse or something?)

I would have thought that MVP in his prime would have been considered bonjwas.
Is it just that no one had been dominant for a long enough period in starcraft 2 to be a bonjwa?


The term bonjwa refers to a player who is completely and utterly dominant (seems nearly unbeatable) for a certain period of time. No, there is no specific requirement for being a bonjwa, but no player in SC2 has attained quite that level of dominance. In BW, BoxeR, NaDa, iloveoov, sAviOr, and Flash were considered bonjwas (not July though )

So ken in melee?
Does Hearthstone have someone like that?


Ken definitely fits the description, idk anything about hearthstone so I can't comment.

The thing about MVP was while he did win a lot, he was often counted out and then made another crazy run through everyone to win. A bonjwa is someone where it would be an upset for them to not win the whole tournament for a long duration of time.


More specifically, bonjwa is when the favorite player always wins because he's so good that no one would ever predict him losing--ever.

Its a mentality of the fans, not an actual number of wins a player has.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
me_viet
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia1350 Posts
May 01 2014 02:50 GMT
#1706
On May 01 2014 08:54 Kenpachi wrote:
why is the world my oyster


life sometimes give you lemons sometimes to go with the oyster?
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
May 01 2014 03:05 GMT
#1707
On May 01 2014 08:54 Kenpachi wrote:
why is the world my oyster

It's a stupid way to call you a pearl; precious and beautiful I think
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
May 01 2014 03:08 GMT
#1708
On May 01 2014 12:05 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2014 08:54 Kenpachi wrote:
why is the world my oyster

It's a stupid way to call you a pearl; precious and beautiful I think


Aren't pearls oysters puking on dirt?
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
May 01 2014 05:09 GMT
#1709
On May 01 2014 12:08 Thieving Magpie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2014 12:05 Orcasgt24 wrote:
On May 01 2014 08:54 Kenpachi wrote:
why is the world my oyster

It's a stupid way to call you a pearl; precious and beautiful I think


Aren't pearls oysters puking on dirt?


But it's beautiful puke.
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
May 01 2014 08:54 GMT
#1710
Does anybody else feel like the newest Firefox (29) is way way similar to Chrome?
I like words.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
May 01 2014 09:04 GMT
#1711
On May 01 2014 17:54 Spaylz wrote:
Does anybody else feel like the newest Firefox (29) is way way similar to Chrome?


I don't know how it looks but the answer to all "Does anybody else" questions is yes
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Xiphias
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway2223 Posts
May 01 2014 09:49 GMT
#1712
On May 01 2014 08:54 Kenpachi wrote:
why is the world my oyster


soup kitchen floor wax museum?

(srl, no one here knows King Crimson?)
aka KanBan85. Working on Starbow.
Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1972 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-01 09:55:07
May 01 2014 09:54 GMT
#1713
I know King Crimson, but I still don't get it.

Edit: Guess I just haven't heard that song before.
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
May 01 2014 10:12 GMT
#1714
If my dad's gay does that also make me gay?
MVP <3 MKP <3 DRG <3
Crushinator
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands2138 Posts
May 01 2014 10:18 GMT
#1715
On May 01 2014 19:12 igay wrote:
If my dad's gay does that also make me gay?


The only way to know for sure if you are gay is through a gaydar test by a medical professional.
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
May 01 2014 10:25 GMT
#1716
On May 01 2014 19:18 Crushinator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2014 19:12 igay wrote:
If my dad's gay does that also make me gay?


The only way to know for sure if you are gay is through a gaydar test by a medical professional.


Alright, do you happen to have Dwight Schrute's number?
MVP <3 MKP <3 DRG <3
Crushinator
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands2138 Posts
May 01 2014 10:45 GMT
#1717
On May 01 2014 19:25 igay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2014 19:18 Crushinator wrote:
On May 01 2014 19:12 igay wrote:
If my dad's gay does that also make me gay?


The only way to know for sure if you are gay is through a gaydar test by a medical professional.


Alright, do you happen to have Dwight Schrute's number?


1-800-984-3672
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
May 01 2014 11:40 GMT
#1718
On May 01 2014 19:12 igay wrote:
If my dad's gay does that also make me gay?

Your name certainly implies it.
LA_Morello
Profile Joined July 2011
Brazil143 Posts
May 01 2014 12:52 GMT
#1719
Where can I find the rules of this forum? Got warned for a post, want to know if the rules covered that specific situation.
Crushinator
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands2138 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-01 13:17:04
May 01 2014 13:12 GMT
#1720
On May 01 2014 21:52 LA_Morello wrote:
Where can I find the rules of this forum? Got warned for a post, want to know if the rules covered that specific situation.


Wishing a slow painful cancerous death upon a video game character is not specifically prohibited by the rules. The ten commandments are the only written rules I know of and they are generally very unspecific and not comprehensive. You were warned because you violated some unwritten rules of decency.

Actually upon re-reading your wish was for a human teammate's parents it seems, seems strange that you can't figure out why you were warned.
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