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TMagpie
Profile Joined June 2015
265 Posts
June 03 2015 20:45 GMT
#5441
On June 04 2015 05:27 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Thieving Magpie do you happen to know TMagpie?


I logged in on another laptop and requested my blizz account...

So yeah, weird.
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
June 03 2015 21:07 GMT
#5442
On June 04 2015 05:38 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2015 05:34 xM(Z wrote:
On June 04 2015 03:39 GreenHorizons wrote:
I hate to use a 'commercial' but it just encapsulates this argument too well.


#100% this
keep "hits like a girl" but turn it into something positive. i'm not considering it to be negative or derogatory anyway. just different. different can be good, right?


I would of pegged you as more of the kid at ~1:05 but I'll call this progress.

no, no, no. you made the progress! (since you never understood what i was saying anyway). i guess the pictures helped.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23658 Posts
June 03 2015 21:10 GMT
#5443
On June 04 2015 06:07 xM(Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2015 05:38 GreenHorizons wrote:
On June 04 2015 05:34 xM(Z wrote:
On June 04 2015 03:39 GreenHorizons wrote:
I hate to use a 'commercial' but it just encapsulates this argument too well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjJQBjWYDTs

#100% this
keep "hits like a girl" but turn it into something positive. i'm not considering it to be negative or derogatory anyway. just different. different can be good, right?


I would of pegged you as more of the kid at ~1:05 but I'll call this progress.

no, no, no. you made the progress! (since you never understood what i was saying anyway). i guess the pictures helped.


2 steps forward, one step back. I'll take it.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
June 04 2015 00:09 GMT
#5444
when a DJ plays a music festival do they actually do any dj'ing or is it all prerecorded?

"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
TMagpie
Profile Joined June 2015
265 Posts
June 04 2015 00:21 GMT
#5445
On June 04 2015 09:09 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
when a DJ plays a music festival do they actually do any dj'ing or is it all prerecorded?



Yes
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
June 04 2015 03:17 GMT
#5446
On June 04 2015 03:39 TMagpie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2015 03:29 [Phantom] wrote:
On June 04 2015 03:10 TMagpie wrote:
On June 03 2015 19:11 Velr wrote:
Calling people out for using the phrase „hits/throws/catches like a girl“ seems not really reasonable to me… FFS i know Girls/Women that use this sentence when they fail badly at throwing/catching).

Is it 100% PC? Probably not. Is it discriminating or anything like that? No. Is it worth making a fuss about? No and you look stupid for doing it. There are many more important battles to fight.


If you live in a society that thinks using a group of people as representative of human weakness, vileness, or negativity; and that it is not only normal, but is a practice you feel should be defended and justified, then you are living in (and enforcing) a society that is discriminatory to that group. It doesn't matter if its calling someone feminine to define them as weak or calling someone a nigger because their skin is dark--your willingness to perform, enforce, and defend that practice is revealing of what your inner intentions, thoughts, and opinions of others are.



But girls in general are weak in the sense of physical strenght, your not lying, your not insulting, you are stating a fact. And even them, you are saying it withouth the intention of insulting the "girls" as a whole.

Its like, in spanish, I don't know in other contries, "pinche" is a word that is used as an insult, but it also has another meaning that its one of the assistants of the cook, so dpending on how you use it it could be an insult or not, and in my opinion saying you hit like a girl, is not meant to be an insult towards woman.


And if you called someone a "Broke ass, convict nigga" because statistically, african americans imprisoned and of a lower social class than whites in america--are you being accurate or are you being derogatory?

And if you call someone weak because they embody feminine aspects--are you really calling the person weak, or femininity weak?

Whiile a larger precent of africans americans are in jail compared to whites, most african americans aren't in jail. I don't know if most of them are poor.
Anyways, you can be derogatory and accurate at the same time.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
June 04 2015 08:14 GMT
#5447
On June 04 2015 09:21 TMagpie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2015 09:09 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
when a DJ plays a music festival do they actually do any dj'ing or is it all prerecorded?



Yes

Yes: they actually do dj'ing or it is prerecorded.
Easy question.
AbouSV
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany1278 Posts
June 04 2015 09:13 GMT
#5448
I'm surprised that no one realized that the only reason girls/women are usually 'weaker' than man, is solely due to the fact that they are told to be.
There is nothing genetic, nor instinctive, and actually it even tends to be the opposite.

Anywaaaaaaaay, to move on to another stupid question:
Some of you might have heard of the 'ITER Organization', localized in France, (it is a project to try out fusion by magnetic confinement as an energy source), but the specific thing is that once you go through the fences, you are not in France any more, you are in ITER Organization, with its own laws (most are the one from France, but not only) and law enforcement persons etc...
Do any of you know about other places in similar case in the world (embassy and consulates excluded)?
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15362 Posts
June 04 2015 09:28 GMT
#5449
On June 04 2015 18:13 AbouSV wrote:
I'm surprised that no one realized that the only reason girls/women are usually 'weaker' than man, is solely due to the fact that they are told to be.
There is nothing genetic, nor instinctive, and actually it even tends to be the opposite.

Anywaaaaaaaay, to move on to another stupid question:
Some of you might have heard of the 'ITER Organization', localized in France, (it is a project to try out fusion by magnetic confinement as an energy source), but the specific thing is that once you go through the fences, you are not in France any more, you are in ITER Organization, with its own laws (most are the one from France, but not only) and law enforcement persons etc...
Do any of you know about other places in similar case in the world (embassy and consulates excluded)?

Any source for that? I very much doubt French criminal law is suspended on the ITER site and I can't find anything related to it after a quick googling.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11752 Posts
June 04 2015 09:40 GMT
#5450
On June 04 2015 18:13 AbouSV wrote:
I'm surprised that no one realized that the only reason girls/women are usually 'weaker' than man, is solely due to the fact that they are told to be.
There is nothing genetic, nor instinctive, and actually it even tends to be the opposite.


Of course this highly depends on your definition of strength, but if you take base physical strength, this statement is nonsense. Men are on average ~10 cm larger than women. This is pure genetics, and has absolutely NOTHING to do with what they are told to be. Based on this, men can on average accumulate more muscle mass at the same effort, and thus on average be stronger than women.

Note that this does not mean that every woman is physically weak. I know that there are a lot of women out there that can easily kick my ass. Furthermore, physical strength in modern society loses its value more and more. I know it plays a very minor role in my life, mostly in carrying groceries up stairs.

And if you are talking about something esoteric like "mental strength", you run into definition trouble really quickly, because i don't think there is a common agreement as to what that is or not.
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-04 09:52:04
June 04 2015 09:50 GMT
#5451
On June 04 2015 18:28 zatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2015 18:13 AbouSV wrote:
I'm surprised that no one realized that the only reason girls/women are usually 'weaker' than man, is solely due to the fact that they are told to be.
There is nothing genetic, nor instinctive, and actually it even tends to be the opposite.

Anywaaaaaaaay, to move on to another stupid question:
Some of you might have heard of the 'ITER Organization', localized in France, (it is a project to try out fusion by magnetic confinement as an energy source), but the specific thing is that once you go through the fences, you are not in France any more, you are in ITER Organization, with its own laws (most are the one from France, but not only) and law enforcement persons etc...
Do any of you know about other places in similar case in the world (embassy and consulates excluded)?

Any source for that? I very much doubt French criminal law is suspended on the ITER site and I can't find anything related to it after a quick googling.

http://www.jus.uio.no/english/services/library/treaties/14/14-04/iaea_iter_imm.xml
Article 1
1.In accordance with Article 5 of the ITER Agreement, the ITER International Fusion Energy Organization (hereinafter ‘the ITER Organization’) shall have international legal personality, including the capacity to conclude agreements with States and/or international organizations.
2.The ITER Organization shall have legal personality and enjoy, in the territories of the Members, the legal capacity it requires, including to:
(a) conclude contracts;
(b) acquire, hold and dispose of property;
(c) obtain licenses; and
(d) institute legal proceedings...
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 04 2015 09:55 GMT
#5452
On June 04 2015 18:13 AbouSV wrote:
I'm surprised that no one realized that the only reason girls/women are usually 'weaker' than man, is solely due to the fact that they are told to be.
There is nothing genetic, nor instinctive, and actually it even tends to be the opposite.

well this just isn't true, is it?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-04 10:24:35
June 04 2015 10:18 GMT
#5453
On June 04 2015 18:55 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2015 18:13 AbouSV wrote:
I'm surprised that no one realized that the only reason girls/women are usually 'weaker' than man, is solely due to the fact that they are told to be.
There is nothing genetic, nor instinctive, and actually it even tends to be the opposite.

well this just isn't true, is it?

http://www.rense.com/general63/galaxyofgeneticdifferences.htm
has some stuff bunched up together but the names and sources can be googled.
Females can differ from each other almost as much as they do from males in the way many genes at the heart of sexual identity behave, researchers say. "Literally every one of the females we looked at had a different genetic story," says Duke University genetics expert Huntington Willard, who co-wrote the study. "It is not just a little bit of variation."

All told, men and women may differ by as much as 2 per cent of their entire genetic inheritance, greater than the hereditary gap between humankind and its closest relative, the chimpanzee. "In essence," Willard says, "there is not one human genome, but two: male and female."

that last part is some statement ...
Edit: there are still some semantics involved here about the meaning of genetic/genes - do you look at gene level, the base pair level, you look at percentages or you look at numbers and so on.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
helpman176
Profile Blog Joined May 2015
128 Posts
June 04 2015 10:28 GMT
#5454
There is also this famous publication:

http://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/wp-content/uploads/Sex-differences-in-the-structural-connectome-of-the-human-brain.pdf

What is known from simpler organisms is also true for humans:
The wiring of the nerve cells in the brain differs between the sexes and reflects the different gender roles that became manifest over millions of years in our genes.

This is in concordance with the differences we see in males having better motor and spatial skills and females having better memory and social cognition abilities.

This is also the reason why jobs like pilot or brain surgeon will always be primarily male while jobs like nurse or kindergarten teacher will always be primarily female.
Oshuy
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands529 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-04 11:51:42
June 04 2015 11:48 GMT
#5455
On June 04 2015 18:50 xM(Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2015 18:28 zatic wrote:
On June 04 2015 18:13 AbouSV wrote:
I'm surprised that no one realized that the only reason girls/women are usually 'weaker' than man, is solely due to the fact that they are told to be.
There is nothing genetic, nor instinctive, and actually it even tends to be the opposite.

Anywaaaaaaaay, to move on to another stupid question:
Some of you might have heard of the 'ITER Organization', localized in France, (it is a project to try out fusion by magnetic confinement as an energy source), but the specific thing is that once you go through the fences, you are not in France any more, you are in ITER Organization, with its own laws (most are the one from France, but not only) and law enforcement persons etc...
Do any of you know about other places in similar case in the world (embassy and consulates excluded)?

Any source for that? I very much doubt French criminal law is suspended on the ITER site and I can't find anything related to it after a quick googling.

http://www.jus.uio.no/english/services/library/treaties/14/14-04/iaea_iter_imm.xml
Show nested quote +
Article 1
1.In accordance with Article 5 of the ITER Agreement, the ITER International Fusion Energy Organization (hereinafter ‘the ITER Organization’) shall have international legal personality, including the capacity to conclude agreements with States and/or international organizations.
2.The ITER Organization shall have legal personality and enjoy, in the territories of the Members, the legal capacity it requires, including to:
(a) conclude contracts;
(b) acquire, hold and dispose of property;
(c) obtain licenses; and
(d) institute legal proceedings...


This definition of ITER as an international organization is the same as the one for United Nations, World Health Organization, ... It is an international zone in the same way an international airport is : international zone before border control, duty free exists because the local taxes do not apply. The French laws apply roughly the same way the US laws apply on the UN site in NY for example.

The main impact is a diplomatical immunity for the people of the organization, a protection of the assets of the organization (including official documents). They cannot be seized by a French investigator unless authorized by the organization.

There were quite a few debates to see if French laws should/could be applied for work contracts of the subcontractors on the site and for nuclear regulations and audits, to see if French regulation authorities were entitled to monitor the site. Not sure how those were settled.
Coooot
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45291 Posts
June 04 2015 12:31 GMT
#5456
On June 04 2015 18:13 AbouSV wrote:
I'm surprised that no one realized that the only reason girls/women are usually 'weaker' than man, is solely due to the fact that they are told to be.
There is nothing genetic, nor instinctive, and actually it even tends to be the opposite.


They were talking about physical strength to use a simple and obvious general fact, so you're incorrect.

If you want to start talking about emotional strength than sure, that's a fair point; such a thing is probably harder to quantify than "How much can you lift" anyway.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15362 Posts
June 04 2015 12:47 GMT
#5457
On June 04 2015 20:48 Oshuy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2015 18:50 xM(Z wrote:
On June 04 2015 18:28 zatic wrote:
On June 04 2015 18:13 AbouSV wrote:
I'm surprised that no one realized that the only reason girls/women are usually 'weaker' than man, is solely due to the fact that they are told to be.
There is nothing genetic, nor instinctive, and actually it even tends to be the opposite.

Anywaaaaaaaay, to move on to another stupid question:
Some of you might have heard of the 'ITER Organization', localized in France, (it is a project to try out fusion by magnetic confinement as an energy source), but the specific thing is that once you go through the fences, you are not in France any more, you are in ITER Organization, with its own laws (most are the one from France, but not only) and law enforcement persons etc...
Do any of you know about other places in similar case in the world (embassy and consulates excluded)?

Any source for that? I very much doubt French criminal law is suspended on the ITER site and I can't find anything related to it after a quick googling.

http://www.jus.uio.no/english/services/library/treaties/14/14-04/iaea_iter_imm.xml
Article 1
1.In accordance with Article 5 of the ITER Agreement, the ITER International Fusion Energy Organization (hereinafter ‘the ITER Organization’) shall have international legal personality, including the capacity to conclude agreements with States and/or international organizations.
2.The ITER Organization shall have legal personality and enjoy, in the territories of the Members, the legal capacity it requires, including to:
(a) conclude contracts;
(b) acquire, hold and dispose of property;
(c) obtain licenses; and
(d) institute legal proceedings...


This definition of ITER as an international organization is the same as the one for United Nations, World Health Organization, ... It is an international zone in the same way an international airport is : international zone before border control, duty free exists because the local taxes do not apply. The French laws apply roughly the same way the US laws apply on the UN site in NY for example.

That's why I asked about criminal law specifically. I assume a murder on the ITER site would still be prosecuted by French authorities?
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
AbouSV
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany1278 Posts
June 04 2015 12:55 GMT
#5458
I am glad you took it that way.
I knew my statement was not so true, but at least it made you look another way at some point :p
(For instance in the anmal reign, you can find a lot of species where the female is dominant (both physically and 'mentally')

About ITER Organization, French laws do apply as stated (at least by default, for some they are explicitly stated), but I was mostly wondering about other places in a similar situation.
So we have the UN in New York, World Health Organization (not so sure about this one though).
But international zone in airport are a bit different because you are in 'no country', not in a different entire international entity.
oGoZenob
Profile Joined December 2011
France1503 Posts
June 04 2015 14:35 GMT
#5459
if a stateless person murders another stateless person someone while swimming in international waters, who has the authority to juge him ?
I like starcraft
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11752 Posts
June 04 2015 14:45 GMT
#5460
There are probably some international piracy laws that apply. I am not a lawyer though.
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