EPTVancouver Riots - Post Stanley Cup Final - Page 13
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No_Roo
United States905 Posts
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Sea_Food
Finland1612 Posts
On June 16 2011 17:09 CountChocula wrote: I based it on this Finnish guy's retelling of what happened and he said apparently they drove over some Swedes. Here's the link: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=223818 And he referenced this article written in Finnish, which I couldn't read: http://www.iltalehti.fi/mmlatka2011/2011051613724170_jm.shtml Anyways, my point wasn't to embarrass Finnish people. It was just to point out that in any society, there's always some minority that does stupid ass stuff. Regardless of the magnitude of the stupidity we see, you still can't generalize from a minority to say that an entire population is stupid. You only get to generalize stuff if you major in math XD The source says thatthere were some fist figths and that someone got hit by a car, but it also says that no one was injured so badly that they couldnt walk to hospital by themself or would have had to stay in the hospital. The burning of flags were the worst tbh. Which again here in the north atleast find mearly an extreme case of disrespect. | ||
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Dhalphir
Australia1305 Posts
"ah I wish the Riots went on longer! Sure destruction and bodily harm sucks... BUT, he bigger the riot shows how much drunker/prouder the people causing it are" Yeah, causing permanent destruction of property and perhaps injuring or killing people is definitely worth it to show people how drunk and proud you are! Being drunk is not something to be proud of. Its an enjoyable past time, not some way to show how much of a man you are. You know what men don't do? injure others for fun. | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6660 Posts
On June 16 2011 17:20 lvlashimaro wrote: I'm not gonna lie. Stupid riots like these are the reason why I stopped being a Lakers fan. I know.. basketball =/= hockey. If my fucking Kings won the cup. I think I'd be a little bit of a rioter. Why? Because we've never won the cup. "Screw this city for taking so damn long". Just kidding.... but really... As glad as I am that the 'nucks lost, I'm really disappointed that this shit (although totally expected), went down. It's always sad to hear about someone losing a life to an event like this. And I feel like posters suchas EcstatiC should be thoroughly ashamed about their posts. People RATE riots? That's insane and preposterous. Way to value the life of a dead man through a 1-10 scale. Even worse, people bragging about other cities where riots are bigger? What? Why would anyone be proud of their city acting so primitively? Not only that, but when other TLers are concerned, turn back around and call us pussies? I don't know if you've ever been raided before, but it's a terrible, and traumatic experience. If anyone is to grow up, it would be the people taking the situation so lightheartedly. Hopefully not an exorbitant amount of monetary and emotional damage was done. Best of luck Vancouver Yes, if you take a step back an view things logically a riot is stupid and harmful... Critically Humans aren't exactly logical beings(Though we like to think we are). If you get to the core, we are just animals... and as animals we are territorially and extremely violent... And I for one think, that though the damage caused does suck... the outcome to see our basic instincts in full swing is rather entertaining... Call me primitive, call me horrible/disgusting etc. but I enjoy watching our race show its true colours. and it brings be a strange feeling of pride and hope that My Country has a chance hang with the big boys of sports riots(Europe and soccer) We're not there yet.. but dammit we are trying! Also you claim to be concerned by a loss of life... welcome to earth, people die by the thousands a minute... Yes it sucks and it prolly could be avoided(My condolences to the family) But we die... it happens people get fucked up all the time for stupid reasons/retarded freak accidents... deal with it. | ||
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vnlegend
United States1389 Posts
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rza
Canada384 Posts
On June 16 2011 17:44 Amui wrote: If we won, it would've been minor damage because for the most part, the several dozen thugs would've stirred up trouble regardless, but the 100k+ happy fans in dt vancouver would be too busy celebrating to cause major damage. However there are a lot of people who are just looking for an excuse after losing and those people are the ones causing trouble. I watched all of the game, including the cup presentation numbly on my couch at home, but I still respect the fact that Boston beat us. The fans who stayed behind in Rogers arena who stayed behind to cheer for the opposing team even as they lifted the cup are the true fans. true, it was very classy that almost all of the canucks fan stayed to cheer for boston. | ||
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Voltaire
United States1485 Posts
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Dhalphir
Australia1305 Posts
"people die from cancer all the time, i guess it won't matter if i stab this guy in the head" | ||
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cheesemaster
Canada1975 Posts
Sears london drugs and sports chek had mass lootings as well as some smaller stores, and all the windowns were smashed of a BMO bank. I heard that tons of cars in underground parking lots were set ablaze. I also heard the guy who set fire to the first car, purposely brought that car down that and said "if the canucks lose im going to tip my truck over and set it on fire" So many nice benzes and BMW's set on fire. Their were quite a few police cars tipped over and set ablaze, i saw through the footage at least 5 different police cars get tipped over couple of them set on fire and burned to the ground i saw angry mobs of 2000 people pushing back riot police while throwing whatever they could find at them, this riot is going to have cause far far far more damage then the one in 1994, it was a home team game and there were well over 100,000 people just in central downtown. | ||
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Lmui
Canada6223 Posts
On June 16 2011 17:49 rza wrote: true, it was very classy that almost all of the canucks fan stayed to cheer for boston. That's actually very true. Compared to the crowd in Boston http://vansunsportsblogs.com/2011/06/14/bruins-fans-chant-flopper-at-injured-raymond/ Where they just taunted Raymond after he was smashed into the boards as awkwardly as he was. The people who stayed behind and cheered for Boston are representative of the majority of Vancouver, not the people still on the streets fighting police. | ||
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cheesemaster
Canada1975 Posts
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
On June 16 2011 17:37 Necro)Phagist( wrote: Hah I wish the Riots went on longer! Sure destruction and bodily harm sucks... BUT, he bigger the riot shows how much drunker/prouder the people causing it are... and as a Canadian I think we can compete with anyone for being proud and drunk! Besides Vancouver was too bloody expensive to lvie in before... maybe now they will lower the living costs xD In all seriousness... I love you Vancouver! Though some may think this isn't a good way to show your support.. it sure as hell gets the point across! And really What better way to show support for Swedish twins and a one eyed god(Malhotra for those that didn't get reference) Then burning looting and pillaging! Epic! Don't worry Canucks you'll slay the frost giant (Lol Chara) next year! I'm curious as what the point you were trying to get across is? Because as a spectator it just appears incredibly senseless and the timing was exploited by a bunch of people that wanted to cause nothing but selfless destruction. | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6660 Posts
On June 16 2011 17:45 Dhalphir wrote: "ah I wish the Riots went on longer! Sure destruction and bodily harm sucks... BUT, he bigger the riot shows how much drunker/prouder the people causing it are" Yeah, causing permanent destruction of property and perhaps injuring or killing people is definitely worth it to show people how drunk and proud you are! Being drunk is not something to be proud of. Its an enjoyable past time, not some way to show how much of a man you are. You know what men don't do? injure others for fun. I disagree...notice how I separated the being drunk and being proud part? I never said be proud of being drunk... but nice strawman. Life lose and bodily harm is bad yes I'm sure we can all agree on that... but people die all the time, to get offended or be concerned by it is just silly considering how often it happens. And Oh dear god no! people lost money! For shame Vancouver for shame! Honestly... Though I clearly enjoy the idea of the riot, I see why people are against it... but to be "Ashamed" of it I will never agree with.. We are Animals and every now and then we need to act like it! Besides 99% of all damage done is covered by insurance every shop owner is prolly making money(Short term, yes insurances rates may go up..). i'm sure I will be called im mature or be labeled as a "Retarded rebellious teen". But what ever I'm no teen and I'm not rebelling against anything, just enjoying the moment is all  | ||
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Dhalphir
Australia1305 Posts
perma-ban, worthy, if we're lucky. i don't even see why people endorsing such behaviour are even allowed to live on this planet using up oxygen. hopefully it is possible. | ||
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cheesemaster
Canada1975 Posts
On June 16 2011 17:55 Necro)Phagist( wrote: I disagree...notice how I separated the being drunk and being proud part? I never said be proud of being drunk... but nice strawman. Life lose and bodily harm is bad yes I'm sure we can all agree on that... but people die all the time, to get offended or be concerned by it is just silly considering how often it happens. And Oh dear god no! people lost money! For shame Vancouver for shame! Honestly... Though I clearly enjoy the idea of the riot, I see why people are against it... but to be "Ashamed" of it I will never agree with.. We are Animals and every now and then we need to act like it! Besides 99% of all damage done is covered by insurance every shop owner is prolly making money(Short term, yes insurances rates may go up..). i'm sure I will be called im mature or be labeled as a "Retarded rebellious teen". But what ever I'm no teen and I'm not rebelling against anything, just enjoying the moment is all I find it hilarious, but the after math and the damage is ridiculous, although i would never participate in anything like that myself, watching the news coverage after i got home was astonishing, people were going absolutely bonkers. So many mobs of 2-5,000 people pushing back riot police everywhere, i remember seeing 2 riot police start beating down on this guy, then a couple hundred people started charging the police, i was laughing pretty hard as the police started running the other direction really fast LOL | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6660 Posts
On June 16 2011 17:55 Irave wrote: I'm curious as what the point you were trying to get across is? Because as a spectator it just appears incredibly senseless and the timing was exploited by a bunch of people that wanted to cause nothing but selfless destruction. their is no point to it all... and you'd be wasting your time to try and find one. Merely the ramblings of a drunk man mixed in with crappy Norse Mythology references... I'm sure I'll regret posting tomorrow, but for now I will stay proud! | ||
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rza
Canada384 Posts
On June 16 2011 18:00 Necro)Phagist( wrote: their is no point to it all... and you'd be wasting your time to try and find one. Merely the ramblings of a drunk man mixed in with crappy Norse Mythology references... I'm sure I'll regret posting tomorrow, but for now I will stay proud! this always happend to me when i log on forums whil drunk... rofl xD | ||
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Bear4188
United States1797 Posts
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cheesemaster
Canada1975 Posts
On June 16 2011 17:57 Dhalphir wrote: I would like it if the mod team could put a warning across this thread that posting in blatant support of violence, idiocy, rioting, and criminal assault is ban-worthy. perma-ban, worthy, if we're lucky. i don't even see why people endorsing such behaviour are even allowed to live on this planet using up oxygen. hopefully it is possible. Honestly its definitely a terrible thing but regardless the amount of people watching the coverage at home and being entertained by it (not in a funny haha way but there were a few moments like that) I saw this drunk idiot kid try and jump over a car that was blazing on fire, the flames were probably going up over 10 feet above the car, and the car had a mailbox on top of it (it was a 5 series BMW ><) the kid tripped on the mailbox while trying to jump landed in the flames for a few seconds got up and jumped off the car while still on fire. He seemed fine, but he also seemed like a drunk idiot | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6660 Posts
On June 16 2011 17:57 Dhalphir wrote: I would like it if the mod team could put a warning across this thread that posting in blatant support of violence, idiocy, rioting, and criminal assault is ban-worthy. perma-ban, worthy, if we're lucky. i don't even see why people endorsing such behaviour are even allowed to live on this planet using up oxygen. hopefully it is possible. Derp people don't believe in my values and the way I think the world should work! Therefore they should die and not use up my oxygen... Really dude... GTFO your high horse and come to terms with the fact that as a human your are an animal with basic instincts, most of which geared towards violence or running from violence... clearly your are the latter. To disagree is one thing.. but to actually think that a large chunk of people should die because they don't abide by your set of values? Really who's worse in this situation? You or the riot advocators? | ||
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