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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14075 Posts
June 14 2011 03:46 GMT
#101
I think your thread is lambasted in bais and that ruins whatever point you are trying to make with it. not having a positive answer in your poll for the other side is just stupid if you think your going to have a debate about anything.

That being said I really like energy drinks because they help me concentrate better with my add and sleep a lot easier taking that concentration edge off. I really love monster because it tends to be pretty cheap for the amount of drink that I get from them ($1.6ish a 16 oz. I think is their normal can) plus they throw money in to a lot of crazy things and I totally loved that moment when I heard that eg got them as a sponsor It really felt like Esports has gotten a lot more legitimacy with sponsors like that.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
stanik
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada213 Posts
June 14 2011 03:51 GMT
#102
The connection between energy drinks and esports goes way back. I remember a drink called Brawlz who was a supporter of Quake 3 at QuakeCon.
schmeebs
Profile Joined August 2010
United States115 Posts
June 14 2011 03:55 GMT
#103
On June 14 2011 12:51 stanik wrote:
The connection between energy drinks and esports goes way back. I remember a drink called Brawlz who was a supporter of Quake 3 at QuakeCon.

I think you mean Bawls, which is still pretty popular and my energy drink of choice at Lan parties.
Aberu
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States968 Posts
June 14 2011 03:58 GMT
#104
I don't think this is a bad thing at all. Your favorite progamers being helped financially by a company willing to sponsor them. How is that bad? This idea that energy drinks are some poisonous material isn't really founded. You can be an extremist health nut all you want, I bet if I watched what you did on a daily basis, I could find something that would be objectionable by your standards of supporting things that are ethically sound only.
srsly
UndercoverNerd
Profile Joined May 2011
88 Posts
June 14 2011 03:59 GMT
#105
I can't stand people who drink energy drinks...and I really hate those who drink it for 'keeping awake' or more 'game improvement'. Additionally it kinda slows the process of esports beeing social integrated - it underlines the stereotype of a typical gamer and thus it increases the distance between the society and the gamers(outside of korea, tho). But hell thats just my opinion and nobody gives a F on a single opinion ^.^
hurr gurr.
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
June 14 2011 04:01 GMT
#106
I agree, this sponsorship of this terrible product is definitely going to hurt ESPORTS as a brand and a developing legitimate sport in the west. How dare they associate something like ENERGY DRINKS with ESPORTS? Clearly, it gives off the message that ESPORTS is all about sugar and caffeine. Completely ruining all legitimacy of ESPORTS, and preventing any further growth in the west. They need to take away the sponsorship now, or EVERYTHING WILL GO OUT OF BUSINESS.
secret - never again
Aberu
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States968 Posts
June 14 2011 04:01 GMT
#107
On June 14 2011 12:59 UndercoverNerd wrote:
I can't stand people who drink energy drinks...and I really hate those who drink it for 'keeping awake' or more 'game improvement'. Additionally it kinda slows the process of esports beeing social integrated - it underlines the stereotype of a typical gamer and thus it increases the distance between the society and the gamers(outside of korea, tho). But hell thats just my opinion and nobody gives a F on a single opinion ^.^


You HATE people who drink it to keep awake. That is such a strange thing to HATE someone for. People need to relax when it comes to what other people want to do with their own bodies. It's getting all 19th century up in this fucking forum lately.
srsly
Aberu
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States968 Posts
June 14 2011 04:08 GMT
#108
On June 14 2011 06:16 phyre112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 03:12 Blix wrote:
On June 14 2011 03:09 Kipsate wrote:
On June 14 2011 03:06 Blix wrote:
On June 14 2011 02:53 Redlol wrote:
On June 14 2011 02:43 r.Evo wrote:
Wheres the "It's fine, I like energy drinks while playing for extended periods of time"-option?


Eat a banana or a handful of peanuts, they offer a lot of what you need for gaming for long periods while being much healthier.

Back on topic, I don't dislike energy drinks, I did used to consume them myself until I began to really look into just how bad for you they really are, and they aren't something you want to be drinking even on a weekly basis much less daily.


A banana contains like 20% sugar, which is twice the sugar content of most soft drinks - peanuts are like 50% fat... A lot of calories that are not needed for sitting behind a desk. I'd say the difference in health impact is marginal.


What?

a can of Coca cola has like 40g sugar, which is twice as much as a banana(the big one, the smallers ones have even less).


It's 20% not 20 grams - a banana is like 150g so 30g sugar; coca cola contains 10.6% of sugar or 35ish grams per 330g can..

The point is that we are very much influenced by perception about what is healthy/unhealthy. Fruit must be good and energy drinks must be bad.. but it really does come down to moderation and how and when etc.


Going to jump on the off-topic discussion here and point out that it's also significant of what type the sugars in the two foods are. Fructose is not the same as dextrose or sucrose. Yes, fruits are high in sugar as far as natural foods go - but they're still natural foods, and as such contain many vitamins and minerals that we need, as well as providing straight calories.

That out of the way, I think advertising at all in progaming (or commercials in general really) is pretty ridiculous. I didn't watch a single MLG commercial, besides to check what the hell reason there was for the BING commercial to be so loud. When I did look at the BING commercial, it just made me angry - and guess what? I still haven't used the product. I use google, because it's a superior service.

Hell, my favorite energy drink (when I do decide to drink them) is AMP. They're probably the least advertised out there - I've only seen their adds on nascar while channel surfing (and I don't even watch nascar). But when energy drinks were booming a few years ago, I tried all the brands out there (monster, rockstar, amp, redbull, etc. etc.) and I liked amp best so I drink it. I think the advice of friends was far bigger than any advertising in me making a choice.


http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4157

Love skeptoid, it addresses the High Fructose Corn Syrup cries.
srsly
JackDragon
Profile Joined February 2011
525 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-14 04:22:34
June 14 2011 04:10 GMT
#109
I really don't see the problem. A sponsor is a sponsor and it is great. The more sponsors we get in esports the more sponsors will see that there is money to gain here.I would only have a problem with a sponsor if they did something illigal, which isn't the case here. Ofcourse if the teams themselves wishes to reject a sponsor thats fine. But I don't think any sponsor cripples the growt of esports.

Edit: also I'd like to add that I do agree that energy drinks are bad for your health. No question about that. Except for tat I have no Idea just HOW bad it is.
TerraTron
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada137 Posts
June 14 2011 04:13 GMT
#110
I dont see whats about energy drinks in Esports, like many have said, it is a product that is aimed at least partly to the gaming crowd, what better way to get noticed by that crowd than sponsoring an esports team?

On June 14 2011 00:51 Zechs wrote:
However, F1 is the place where a precedent for disallowing certain sponsorship was set. Cigarette ads used to be plastered all over F1 cars when i was growing up until they were eventually banned.


Unless energy drinks get banned to certain people under X age, it isn't going to be banned from esports sponsorship.
MaestroSC
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-14 04:29:05
June 14 2011 04:18 GMT
#111
I think this thread is simply a "sometimes I just need to complain" thread imo.

Kinda ridiculous.

Ya energy drinks are bad... if you drink/eat nothing but energy drinks, beyond a reasonable amount. But in this case stupidity is the more dangerous/prevalent factor in these cases, not the substance.

Energy drinks love to sponsor "unique" sports/teams. For isntance Rockstar is HUGE in Paintball sponsorship of teams and tournaments. They are at every tournament, and sponsor multiple teams.

Monster is hugely into motorsports sponsorships.

Redbull is into sponsoring everything cool. Plane races, car races, motorcycles, boats, cycling, petty much everything. Because its a great way to get a lot of fans in all of these niche communities.

Energy drink companies realize that you can tap into niche communities for a much cheaper price than buying commerical time n such.
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
June 14 2011 04:26 GMT
#112
A friend of mine had a heart attack at the age of 17 from drinking energy drinks. I hated them before that because they tasted like shit, and anyone wearing apparel (or that had a sticker on their car) of an energy drink company was instantly seen as a derelict, but yeah.

They're fine, but they are dangerous if used wrongly, especially underage. I don't like it, but there are bigger issues I suppose.
mav451
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1596 Posts
June 14 2011 04:36 GMT
#113
On June 14 2011 06:50 JLew wrote:
I have spent a great deal of my life working in the ''extreme sports'' industry ( hate that title but that is the best way to name it for the sake of this discussion I guess ) and have seen first hand the amount of money energy drink sponsors are willing to pump into stuff. I don't personally drink the crap and to be honest I think it probably should be regulated ( another discussion for another time ) but they are huge companies that target young people. They are legitimate financial backers and because their names are so well known ( Monster, Red Bull, Rockstar..NOS) they definitely a bring about a legitimacy to e-sports and the teams they sponsor (ie. Monster for EG).

They pump money in to what we enjoy, as well as make it possible for events to become bigger,better, and easily accessible. If Bernie Madoff wants to give the NASL 100 grand for another season I could care less. And as someone else stated you could find something morally/ethically wrong with most corporations that have the backing to throw money at something like an SC2 team.

One of the main distinctions between F1 and eSports that I would like to point out is that eSports organizations are not currently in a position to be selective. If in 10 years it has gotten to the point where there are sponsors clambering on TL and EG's doors then yeah they could definitely be selective and associate themselves with brands/images that they choose to.


Agreed. And the poll results reflect this as well. eSports still has a long way to go before the luxury of being selective is even financially viable. It's not just not possible yet, and frankly, the idealism shown by the OP and others is a bit short-sighted.
With no power comes no responsibility?
yesplz
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States295 Posts
June 14 2011 04:43 GMT
#114
I watch all the sc2 I can and I've never seen an energy drink? Where do you even see energy drink sponsors
ZombiesOMG
Profile Joined October 2010
United States282 Posts
June 14 2011 04:52 GMT
#115
Oops, I accidentally voted for "Other" when I meant to click "I don't care."

So that's my explanation for my Other vote.
stevarius
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1394 Posts
June 14 2011 04:58 GMT
#116
On June 14 2011 12:55 schmeebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 12:51 stanik wrote:
The connection between energy drinks and esports goes way back. I remember a drink called Brawlz who was a supporter of Quake 3 at QuakeCon.

I think you mean Bawls, which is still pretty popular and my energy drink of choice at Lan parties.

Bawlz is fucking delicious. It's the only energy drink I seldomly drink. Energy drinks are retarded imo, but at least this one tastes delicious.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
hmunkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom1973 Posts
June 14 2011 05:00 GMT
#117
You realize playing videogames is detrimental to your health too, right? I really don't understand how that can be the crux of your argument when it comes to esports.
garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
June 14 2011 05:06 GMT
#118
Seriously people? Another one of these threads?

Read my quote.

This is not hurting e-sports.
#TeamBuLba
Illusionnist
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Ireland97 Posts
June 14 2011 05:06 GMT
#119
flash is like the justin bieber of sc1,
also, i wouldnt mind being sponcored by mcdonalds, not for the food, but i mean, look at the company
i may be drunk now, but in the morning i will be sober, and you will still be ugly.
kathode
Profile Joined April 2010
United States265 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-14 05:15:15
June 14 2011 05:14 GMT
#120
I speak on behalf of being a manager of both Gaming at Indiana University and the Collegiate E-Sports Series which are both heavily sponsored by NOS Energy Drink.

Energy drinks are often associated with more "extreme" versions of sports in the past and being in talks with managers at NOS, they have been cutting back on those areas of sponsorship and have recently been trying to put more money into esports because it is a growing market with a lot of untapped potential. I do not think that MANY organizations will be at the level that they are without energy drink sponsorships, which have a great amount of money allocated for advertisement.

I personally love the idea of energy drinks for esports events. It goes into the whole genre of esports as being something that involves mental clarity, energy, focus, and playing hours on end. I do not see how another drink sponsor could replace energy drinks as a primary drink for esports. For example, water? milk? juice.....? personally that would be pointless for all of those to sponsor esports events or organizations (even water, water does not need to get their name out no matter what company it is, you rarely see water sponsors anyways and there is no competition between water companies because they all taste the same).

Energy drinks depend on getting their name out to sell their product. And if it wasn't for NOS sponsoring both of the organizations I help run, I would not have been so into NOS and other energy drink sponsors we have acquired in the past (Monster, for example).

Many people do not like energy drinks, but it is still necessary to treat the sponsors with respect. If it wasn't for them, esports would not be where it is today and will have a void in many sponsorships (MLG for example is sponsored by NOS too).
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