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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
June 11 2011 17:41 GMT
#61
Go to the health and fitness thread, listen to people who know what they are talking about.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=180919
insaneMicro
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany761 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-11 18:32:15
June 11 2011 17:43 GMT
#62
Start lifting weights. If you use your muscles, your body will hold onto them instead of fat. (This is obviously oversimplified, but you get the idea.) Check out the fitness thread here, it should have all the info you need.

Edit: damn you travis
Also the amount of broscience in this thread is quite astonishing. Be careful OP.
"Damn I played some fine Zerg right there". -Fruitdealer
caruso
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany733 Posts
June 11 2011 17:45 GMT
#63
Okay, one last question:

I also drink a lot of coffee, how long before going to bed should i stop drinking it?
insaneMicro
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany761 Posts
June 11 2011 17:51 GMT
#64
On June 12 2011 02:45 caruso wrote:
Okay, one last question:

I also drink a lot of coffee, how long before going to bed should i stop drinking it?


Early enough so you can get ~8 hours of sleep. It depends on the person. In general, coffee is beneficial to losing fat, though its effect isnt that great.
"Damn I played some fine Zerg right there". -Fruitdealer
Catch
Profile Joined September 2010
United States616 Posts
June 11 2011 17:52 GMT
#65
Screw you Travis Hurting my feelings.

On June 12 2011 02:45 caruso wrote:
Okay, one last question:

I also drink a lot of coffee, how long before going to bed should i stop drinking it?


Why would it matter what time you stop drinking it? I wanna hear your reasoning on this.
Victory Loves Preparation
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
June 11 2011 17:54 GMT
#66
On June 12 2011 02:45 caruso wrote:
Okay, one last question:

I also drink a lot of coffee, how long before going to bed should i stop drinking it?


Just early enough so it doesn't affect your sleeping.

This diet is just plain stupid. And being 140lb @5'6-7 is just skinny.

Lift some weights, gain muscle (by eating moreeee than 1200cals lol) and you'll look a whole lot better. Promise.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
caruso
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany733 Posts
June 11 2011 17:55 GMT
#67
On June 12 2011 02:52 Catch wrote:
Screw you Travis Hurting my feelings.

Show nested quote +
On June 12 2011 02:45 caruso wrote:
Okay, one last question:

I also drink a lot of coffee, how long before going to bed should i stop drinking it?


Why would it matter what time you stop drinking it? I wanna hear your reasoning on this.


Why wouldn't it? The way I see it, caffein prevents one from falling asleep.
If you drink a cup of coffee right before going to bed, you obviously won't be able to sleep, will you?
So it should take the body a certain time to process the caffein, shouldn't it?
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-11 18:13:41
June 11 2011 18:08 GMT
#68
On June 12 2011 02:55 caruso wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2011 02:52 Catch wrote:
Screw you Travis Hurting my feelings.

On June 12 2011 02:45 caruso wrote:
Okay, one last question:

I also drink a lot of coffee, how long before going to bed should i stop drinking it?


Why would it matter what time you stop drinking it? I wanna hear your reasoning on this.


Why wouldn't it? The way I see it, caffein prevents one from falling asleep.
If you drink a cup of coffee right before going to bed, you obviously won't be able to sleep, will you?
So it should take the body a certain time to process the caffein, shouldn't it?


Your caffeine tolerance varies based on individual metabolism, body chemistry, and other factors. I can finish pounding an energy drink or glass of sweet tea, lay down, and fall asleep in minutes if my body is ready to sleep. Other people drink just a little caffeine a few hours before bed and have trouble.

In other words, only you can answer this for you.

Oh, overall health and hydration actually have an effect on it as well.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
June 11 2011 18:11 GMT
#69
On June 12 2011 02:52 Catch wrote:
Screw you Travis Hurting my feelings.

Show nested quote +
On June 12 2011 02:45 caruso wrote:
Okay, one last question:

I also drink a lot of coffee, how long before going to bed should i stop drinking it?


Why would it matter what time you stop drinking it? I wanna hear your reasoning on this.


I just don't get why people who know what they are talking about somewhat, like you, sit and try to fight for attention in a swarm of people that don't know what they are talking about.
Catch
Profile Joined September 2010
United States616 Posts
June 11 2011 18:17 GMT
#70
On June 12 2011 02:55 caruso wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2011 02:52 Catch wrote:
Screw you Travis Hurting my feelings.

On June 12 2011 02:45 caruso wrote:
Okay, one last question:

I also drink a lot of coffee, how long before going to bed should i stop drinking it?


Why would it matter what time you stop drinking it? I wanna hear your reasoning on this.


Why wouldn't it? The way I see it, caffein prevents one from falling asleep.
If you drink a cup of coffee right before going to bed, you obviously won't be able to sleep, will you?
So it should take the body a certain time to process the caffein, shouldn't it?


Exactly, and like others have said only you know how it affects you. If tonight you drink a cup of coffee an hour before bed and get to sleep perfectly fine, then an hour before bed is perfectly fine. If you find that you lay awake for awhile, then try cutting back to two hours.

See, food and drink for this type of stuff is largely trial and error. Some people do well on a paleo diet while others need more >100g of carbs. While it is simple, you have to find what works for you. For example, the other day I woke up, ate a single large breast of chicken (running out of food too :\ need groceries), and hit the gym. My workout was shit, and I was lucky it was me going in to try out exercises in my last routine. No energy and I forced myself to stop early.

What did I learn? I need more than just protein in the morning to lift. Mostly I (personally) need carbs. I wouldn't have known this if I didn't try it out. Ya get what I'm saying?
Victory Loves Preparation
xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
June 11 2011 18:17 GMT
#71
On June 11 2011 23:24 Bigpet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 23:18 caruso wrote:
nothing on Sundays.


Shouldn't that cause your body to burn less calories because it goes into energy saving mode.

edit:
Also, your weight is fine. Why do you want to lose more?
Yes, and energy saving mode means longer life span. Caloric deficit is one of the most widely proven ways for mammals to increse life.
Aah thats the stuff..
searcher
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
277 Posts
June 11 2011 18:19 GMT
#72
In my opinion fruits and nuts is not that great a diet. Change fruits for vegetables, since fruits have a lot of sugar which means you produce more insulin which promotes fat storage. Nuts are a good supplement to a diet because they have some good unsaturated fats, but they are still very fatty. Have them mixed into a salad but not as an integral component of your diet. Chicken breast seems to be the right way to go meat wise since it has very little fat, but it is also the blandest meat. To make your diet more interesting try some seafood, personally I like prawns and mussels which are quite readily available and easy to stir fry.
Finally be aware of when you're eating. Don't eat large dinners and not at all close to when you sleep.
yeaitooted
Profile Joined May 2010
United States51 Posts
June 11 2011 18:22 GMT
#73
I work out religiously and i read the forums a lot and the general rule to cut is x10 your body weight in calories. Also i have read your post and it is a bit confusing to me so ill just give you what i know. If your having a hard time losing the last bit of fat try 40/40/20 , and ketos diet. Mix it up throughout the week say 40/40/20 mon-wensday, ketos thursday-saturday CARB load on sunday. Carb load day is a must and you should aim at maintenance level in calorie intake or a bit above. Make sure on monday you do your cardio day as its been suggested better, (after a carb load day) i have no concrete information on this though but its no harm doing it. You have to mix constantly mix up your diet to confuse your body. Another note is since your at the last stretching point of weight loss you might need 2 carb load days out of the week.
iNSiPiD1
Profile Joined May 2010
United States140 Posts
June 11 2011 18:22 GMT
#74
OP: Here's a link to, in my opinion, the best website on bodybuilding and nutrion I've ever seen.

http://www.scoobysworkshop.com/

Scooby is a well known guy on YouTube, and he can get you started on the right path. The reason I like him so much is he's honest and open about everything. If you have unrealistic goals for the work you're willing to put in then he will tell you that, unlike most of the places you can get info from.

I would read the nutrition part of that website thorougly, because as everyone else has said your diet is horrible. Now you don't have to take it to the exact extremes that Scooby recommends, but consider working toward such a goal. I've found that changes that are drastic tend to fail, if employed in a short period of time. These things need to be gradual.

You will lose that flab in time, with proper nutrion and training. I would trust all advice you can gather from Scooby.

Best.

"What is asserted without reason, may be denied without reason."
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46049 Posts
June 11 2011 18:25 GMT
#75
On June 12 2011 00:06 caruso wrote:
Yeah 5 feet something. 5.6 or so.


Then your current weight is actually fine. Keep a healthy diet. Develop muscle. Exercise regularly. Et cetera.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
inimenesc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Estonia374 Posts
June 11 2011 18:27 GMT
#76
Why do people destroy themselves with 1200kcal diets?

I´m like 205 and 95kg and think weighting more is better than weighting less than you should

i have a bit of fat too, but i dont worry so much, so do a bit of workout and enjoy your eating.
"When game is going full retard, you can only go with it. If you start going against it, if you start going half retard, you´re fucking done for." -n0tail 2014
FenneK
Profile Joined November 2010
France1231 Posts
June 11 2011 18:40 GMT
#77
that it a ridiculous eating schedule, and your weight makes you a thin guy. just stop and start eating normally again
good luck have batman
Catch
Profile Joined September 2010
United States616 Posts
June 11 2011 18:42 GMT
#78
@Travis Thanks man, you made up for it. Bromance happening.

Anyways, I don't know why I do it. Maybe because I was once at that point of believing you needed to worry about eating every 2 hours to keep up your metabolism and worried about the isometric contraction of the peak of the muscle of the tendon to hit the muscle form all angles. Or maybe it was because I was once 205 lbs at 5'10 or 5'11 until I (unhealthily) dieted down to 164 so I was just skinny fat. Maybe I help because I was once in that shoe. It really isn't as complicated as people make it out to be, as long as you start off in the right direction. TL HF helped me out because I was willing to listen. I owe the same to other people. If they don't listen, then I don't worry about it.

The problem with threads like these are the posters who just sprout bullshit which far outnumber me. They just pass on what they've heard. There isn't an army to back me up like in HF with General Eshlow to point me to my post.


@iNSiPiD1

I was wondering how many people knew about scooby after receiving a video from him from a buddy...

If you can listen to this guy, then you've done more than I could.
+ Show Spoiler +


First of all, the guy is wrong on some accounts and right on others. Refer to this post by Eshlow over at the TLHF to see why.
Generally, anybody who recommends whole grains I ignore. Anybody who says that 5-7 meals a day or protein every two hours I do ignore without question. I suggest you do the same.

I've only skimmed his website though, so feel free to inform me if I am wrong.
Victory Loves Preparation
Shinobi1982
Profile Joined January 2011
1605 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-11 19:04:07
June 11 2011 18:57 GMT
#79
Why are people so obsessed about body weight, It's kinda sad. Only thing that actually matters is body composition.

Hit a random bodybuilding forum, read the stickies and you will do fine with a decent bb diet. Odds are you will eat MUCH more than you already do. And you certainly will get more satisfying results when you look in the mirror. Average you will lose 1kg FAT each week. GLHF

Edit: Even doctor advices are f*ckin sad, they will measure height + weight and determine if you are overweight or not, haha. Thats one of the biggest BS spoon-fed by the "authorities" lol.
Train like an animal, eat like a horse, sleep like a baby, grow like a weed.
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-11 18:59:56
June 11 2011 18:59 GMT
#80
On June 12 2011 03:17 xarthaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 23:24 Bigpet wrote:
On June 11 2011 23:18 caruso wrote:
nothing on Sundays.


Shouldn't that cause your body to burn less calories because it goes into energy saving mode.

edit:
Also, your weight is fine. Why do you want to lose more?
Yes, and energy saving mode means longer life span. Caloric deficit is one of the most widely proven ways for mammals to increse life.


This is bullshit. "energy saving mode" doesn't happen until you haven't eaten for over 72 hours; in fact if anything, your metabolic rate is increased in a fast shorter than 72 hours, mostly due to increased adrenaline. I don't know about "increased life span" - I'd like to see some studies on your "widely proven" information.

On June 12 2011 03:22 yeaitooted wrote:
I work out religiously and i read the forums a lot and the general rule to cut is x10 your body weight in calories. Also i have read your post and it is a bit confusing to me so ill just give you what i know. If your having a hard time losing the last bit of fat try 40/40/20 , and ketos diet. Mix it up throughout the week say 40/40/20 mon-wensday, ketos thursday-saturday CARB load on sunday. Carb load day is a must and you should aim at maintenance level in calorie intake or a bit above. Make sure on monday you do your cardio day as its been suggested better, (after a carb load day) i have no concrete information on this though but its no harm doing it. You have to mix constantly mix up your diet to confuse your body. Another note is since your at the last stretching point of weight loss you might need 2 carb load days out of the week.


extremely low carb diets such as atkins or "keto" diets are famous for their side effect of not being able to maintain an intense workout level in most people. If you're doing cardio now and switch to this type of diet, expect your distance and speed to suffer greatly.

I'd really recommend that people looking for health and nutrition advice take travis's suggestion and check out the health and fitness thread in the community forum. There's currently 350+ pages of great information, and we're looking into getting a subforum now.
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