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On June 05 2011 17:24 d(O.o)a wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 17:21 Maliris wrote: This is ridiculous... females are more equal than males huh? That parent is an idiot for not pressing charges, if this was a 11 year old girl getting attacked like this they would go to prison Or at least juvenile detention centers, but those are about 95% males (made up statistic, but from what I've heard from friends who have been it's true.)
You could have done a simple google search to get a statistic, yours was actually not too far off interestingly enough, google turned up around 85%.
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On June 05 2011 17:28 Teton wrote: And if it was public why didnt someone help out the boy ?
What do you think happens when grown men use their muscles against 14 year old girls...
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On June 05 2011 17:01 vetinari wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 16:43 Bobble wrote:On June 05 2011 16:35 vetinari wrote:On June 05 2011 16:27 VIB wrote:On June 05 2011 16:20 jaybee2 wrote:On June 05 2011 16:17 d(O.o)a wrote:On June 05 2011 16:14 Tenhou wrote: Guys, screw the 3 guys stripping 1 girl logic.
IF IT'S 3 OLDER BOY STRIPPING ONE BOY THEN I BET THE MOTHER IS GOING TO PRESS CHARGES.
This is a good point as well, and also very true. On June 05 2011 16:14 jaybee2 wrote: Have you ever noticed how there are some kids that never managed to get bullied? Why is that? I investigated theorized and it worked for me. Later on, when I took evolutionary biology classes at university my beliefs were validated. Than copy/paste your research, clearly you must have some if you "investigated and theorized" I am not going to paste everything. If really want the book i guess i can post the link. I gave my reasoning but nobody says what they disagree with. Only that I am stupid. I thought it would be easy to disprove a stupid idea but I guess I have stayed up late for nothing. Jaybee, you're actually right that this is just a consequence of evolution. Except you completely inverted it. It's the other way around. In modern society intelligence is a superior evolutionary trait over strength. Bullies are not evolutionary superior, but inferior. Evolution takes care of them because they fail in life. You compare us to puppies bullying the weaker. Guess what, humans evolved past dogs. Up to a point where that dog bullying isn't as important as intelligence anymore. Study showing school bullies tend to become losers at life: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/07/100708160937.htm No, intelligence is not a superior evolutionary trait. Intelligent people have less children. Hence, intelligence is selected AGAINST. Bullies, on the other hand, ... Can't say I like it, but its the truth.  You watched Idiocracy, didn't you mate? Yes, there is some evidence that less intelligent people have more children than more intelligent people, but are you saying stupid people are all bullies? That's obviously not true. And besides, it doesn't matter how much progeny you have, evolution doesn't work that way. It's based on how much progeny pass their genes on to the next generation. People with higher intelligence generally have higher living conditions, so so they may have less children, but those children have a higher chance to survive than the progeny of less intelligent people. Also, you've assumed that less intelligent people will always have less intelligent kids. That is mostly true, due to socio-economic conditions, but there are plenty of exceptions. I'm not an idiot. >.< I'm saying that bullies have traits that lead to an increased likelyhood of having more children than non-bullies. Well, it does matter how many children you have. In the western world, the difference in survival rates between rich and poor children to reproductive age (not including war) is essentially negligible. Hence, the raw birth rate in the demographic group is the most relevant factor. These have been long debated. Many geneticists today agree that actually natural selection has been choosing smarter people over dumber in modern day society. As evidenced by the rise in average intelligence over the years on industrialized nations. So it seems there are actually more dumb people's kids dying of drug OD then there are smart people's kids not being born ^^
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect
Luckily this will become even more obvious in 100 years when everyone can choose whether their kids will be born genetically engineered to be smarter or not
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On June 05 2011 17:08 Piski wrote: The real sad thing here is that he will never forget this, news, school mates and youtube will make sure of this. There is a real good chance that if he is now scarred for life he will just end up growing up to be a rapist/murderer.
Jesus Christ! Really?!? You are at least the second person who has suggested that and I find it so crazy. Rapist/Murder?!? The way I see it the video is going to be FotM. Do you really think kids care about stuff that happened 3 mounts ago? Even if it is still on the web nobody would care about it. And pressing charges is like your mother coming to school and yelling to the kids that had beaten you up, except it would drag out a lot longer. It would only make things worse. I guess I don't know how things work at your schools, but back when I was at school if somebody got his shorts pulled down the others laughed and the next day nobody fucking remembered about it.
I'm not saying that it's fine to do stuff like that. It's obviously fucked up, but saying stuff like:
There is a real good chance that if he is now scarred for life he will just end up growing up to be a rapist/murderer. is a little overboard don't you think?
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On June 05 2011 17:07 Anon06 wrote: I think the mother was correct in not pressing charges, why ruin 3 little girls lives? it was a mistake due to their lack of judgment. they probably could have even been brought down on child pornography charges for posting it on the internet if girls posting under aged pic of themselves can. Imo the mother most definitely absolutely positively should have pressed charges on the girls... if its about not ruining 3 little girls lives then think about the boy who was even younger than them. Don't you think his life is ruined atleast in the school he is enrolled in? its pathetic that the girls will get away scot free. I'm pretty sure that any other 8th grader would have enough sense to tell whether or not this prank was out of hand. disgusting
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On June 05 2011 17:30 schmeebs wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 17:24 d(O.o)a wrote:On June 05 2011 17:21 Maliris wrote: This is ridiculous... females are more equal than males huh? That parent is an idiot for not pressing charges, if this was a 11 year old girl getting attacked like this they would go to prison Or at least juvenile detention centers, but those are about 95% males (made up statistic, but from what I've heard from friends who have been it's true.) Depends on where you are, but usually its somewhere around a 75/25 or an 80/20 split. Also, girls in juvie are fucking batshit crazy, a lot of the guys tend to be in for understandable things (assault/vandalism/robbery) where the girls are just fucking nuts. This is true, and the funny thing is I have a friend who is a girl who has been caught stealing multiple times but manages to sweet-talk her way out of it every time, whereas a male friend of mine gets caught once and gets banned from the store (I think he got a fine too)
On June 05 2011 17:32 Mordiford wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 17:24 d(O.o)a wrote:On June 05 2011 17:21 Maliris wrote: This is ridiculous... females are more equal than males huh? That parent is an idiot for not pressing charges, if this was a 11 year old girl getting attacked like this they would go to prison Or at least juvenile detention centers, but those are about 95% males (made up statistic, but from what I've heard from friends who have been it's true.) You could have done a simple google search to get a statistic, yours was actually not too far off interestingly enough, google turned up around 85%.
I could've but google doesn't always have the most truthful results anyways.
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if the sexes were swapped, they'd be charged with attempted rape
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On June 05 2011 17:34 sashkata wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 17:08 Piski wrote: The real sad thing here is that he will never forget this, news, school mates and youtube will make sure of this. There is a real good chance that if he is now scarred for life he will just end up growing up to be a rapist/murderer.
Jesus Christ! Really?!? You are at least the second person who has suggested that and I find it so crazy. Rapist/Murder?!? The way I see it the video is going to be FotM. Do you really think kids care about stuff that happened 3 mounts ago? Even if it is still on the web nobody would care about it. And pressing charges is like your mother coming to school and yelling to the kids that had beaten you up, except it would drag out a lot longer. It would only make things worse. I guess I don't know how things work at your schools, but back when I was at school if somebody got his shorts pulled down the others laughed and the next day nobody fucking remembered about it. I'm not saying that it's fine to do stuff like that. It's obviously fucked up, but saying stuff like:
dude I have personally bullied kids while I was in grade 6 for things that happened to kids while they were in grade 1/2 I'm not proud of it, but to imply that kids forget about something like this within months is ludicrous. My friends also bug me to this day for bullying people when we were young.
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On June 05 2011 14:52 Kinetik_Inferno wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 14:51 haduken wrote: The mother did the right thing. If she went ahead and press charges then her son would be the laughing stock of the school.
Sad but true. Explain to me why he would be the laughing stock of the whole school.
Because children are cruel, and because mercy, compassion and lack of respect for strength are signs of maturity, which take life experiences that 99% of children, and vast majority of adults in the states, simply do not have.
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On June 05 2011 14:48 Let it Raine wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 14:46 vetinari wrote:On June 05 2011 14:43 Hakker wrote: Justice? punishment? they just took the kids clothes off lol
if anything in 5 years he'll look back on how lucky he was.
3 14 year old boys forcibly restrain and remove the clothes of an 11 year old girl, and they go on the sex offenders register. 3 14 year old girls forcibly restrain and remove the clothes of an 11 year old boy, and its a harmless prank that maybe got a little bit out of hand. this man has a point. im a fan of the lack of charges though. Excellent sum-up.
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sickening...they too young to jail so throw their parents in. IMO
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On June 05 2011 17:34 sashkata wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 17:08 Piski wrote: The real sad thing here is that he will never forget this, news, school mates and youtube will make sure of this. There is a real good chance that if he is now scarred for life he will just end up growing up to be a rapist/murderer.
Jesus Christ! Really?!? You are at least the second person who has suggested that and I find it so crazy. Rapist/Murder?!? The way I see it the video is going to be FotM. Do you really think kids care about stuff that happened 3 mounts ago? Even if it is still on the web nobody would care about it. And pressing charges is like your mother coming to school and yelling to the kids that had beaten you up, except it would drag out a lot longer. It would only make things worse. I guess I don't know how things work at your schools, but back when I was at school if somebody got his shorts pulled down the others laughed and the next day nobody fucking remembered about it.I'm not saying that it's fine to do stuff like that. It's obviously fucked up, but saying stuff like: Show nested quote +There is a real good chance that if he is now scarred for life he will just end up growing up to be a rapist/murderer. is a little overboard don't you think?
Are you serious? We won't care about it in 3 months but he will and everyone he knows will. Also it's not even close being the same as your mother would come to the school yelling and making it worse. Who are you to say how did this affect him? He got made fun of and stripped by three girls and got putted on youtube and know everyone is laughing at him and I don't know where did you grew up but kids remember stuff like this way longer than 3 months. I'm sure they have already made him a cool nickname he will carry for the rest of his school years.
To the bolded part. Was it three stronger girls holding the younger guy by the throat while stripping those shorts and did it end up in youtube? How do you even know if the guy ever forget that or that nobody remembered it.
I did say it's a little bit far fetched but lets be honest. This society has made murderers with way less.
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Honestly i'm more worried about responses in thread than the video itself...
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Wow, I can imagine what the reactions would've been if the genders had been reversed.
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On June 05 2011 17:32 VIB wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 17:01 vetinari wrote:On June 05 2011 16:43 Bobble wrote:On June 05 2011 16:35 vetinari wrote:On June 05 2011 16:27 VIB wrote:On June 05 2011 16:20 jaybee2 wrote:On June 05 2011 16:17 d(O.o)a wrote:On June 05 2011 16:14 Tenhou wrote: Guys, screw the 3 guys stripping 1 girl logic.
IF IT'S 3 OLDER BOY STRIPPING ONE BOY THEN I BET THE MOTHER IS GOING TO PRESS CHARGES.
This is a good point as well, and also very true. On June 05 2011 16:14 jaybee2 wrote: Have you ever noticed how there are some kids that never managed to get bullied? Why is that? I investigated theorized and it worked for me. Later on, when I took evolutionary biology classes at university my beliefs were validated. Than copy/paste your research, clearly you must have some if you "investigated and theorized" I am not going to paste everything. If really want the book i guess i can post the link. I gave my reasoning but nobody says what they disagree with. Only that I am stupid. I thought it would be easy to disprove a stupid idea but I guess I have stayed up late for nothing. Jaybee, you're actually right that this is just a consequence of evolution. Except you completely inverted it. It's the other way around. In modern society intelligence is a superior evolutionary trait over strength. Bullies are not evolutionary superior, but inferior. Evolution takes care of them because they fail in life. You compare us to puppies bullying the weaker. Guess what, humans evolved past dogs. Up to a point where that dog bullying isn't as important as intelligence anymore. Study showing school bullies tend to become losers at life: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/07/100708160937.htm No, intelligence is not a superior evolutionary trait. Intelligent people have less children. Hence, intelligence is selected AGAINST. Bullies, on the other hand, ... Can't say I like it, but its the truth.  You watched Idiocracy, didn't you mate? Yes, there is some evidence that less intelligent people have more children than more intelligent people, but are you saying stupid people are all bullies? That's obviously not true. And besides, it doesn't matter how much progeny you have, evolution doesn't work that way. It's based on how much progeny pass their genes on to the next generation. People with higher intelligence generally have higher living conditions, so so they may have less children, but those children have a higher chance to survive than the progeny of less intelligent people. Also, you've assumed that less intelligent people will always have less intelligent kids. That is mostly true, due to socio-economic conditions, but there are plenty of exceptions. I'm not an idiot. >.< I'm saying that bullies have traits that lead to an increased likelyhood of having more children than non-bullies. Well, it does matter how many children you have. In the western world, the difference in survival rates between rich and poor children to reproductive age (not including war) is essentially negligible. Hence, the raw birth rate in the demographic group is the most relevant factor. These have been long debated. Many geneticists today agree that actually natural selection has been choosing smarter people over dumber in modern day society. As evidenced by the rise in average intelligence over the years on industrialized nations. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effectLuckily this will become even more obvious in 100 years when everyone can choose whether their kids will be born genetically engineered to be smarter or not 
AHEM.
I see your wikipedia link, and raise you:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fertility_and_intelligence
Basically, the flynn effect is mostly a result of higher incomes and universal education. In the wiki I link, the negative correlation between IQ and fertility is observed only when fertility rates are low (that is at or below replacement) amongst the general population. In addition, there is essentially no correlation between male fertility and intelligence.
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They should've made the 3 girls strip in front of the boy, fitting punishment.
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Murderers are made by shitty parents not bullies.
At any rate he's gona have a rough time at school a while for geting humiliated by some girls, but that builds character as long as he gets passed it. As for kids forgeting about it, lol man that's the kind of stuff nobody ever forgets about.
I got robbed at knife point back in the 5th grade had to run back home in my shorts and nothing else, some of the school kids saw me runin back home and made fun of me over that for yeaaars and yeaaars, it's all about learning how to deal with it.
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On June 05 2011 14:46 vetinari wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 14:43 Hakker wrote: Justice? punishment? they just took the kids clothes off lol
if anything in 5 years he'll look back on how lucky he was.
3 14 year old boys forcibly restrain and remove the clothes of an 11 year old girl, and they go on the sex offenders register. 3 14 year old girls forcibly restrain and remove the clothes of an 11 year old boy, and its a harmless prank that maybe got a little bit out of hand.
This is exactly my feelings, honestly I'm pretty mad about this now.
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At times like these, I support corporal punishment. Those girls should be smacked (hard) for the being insensitive little pricks.
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what the hell, totally unfair
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