Has anyone else ever felt that way? I feel like I suffer from this mentality more and more as I grow older XD.
For example, I started listening to dubstep back in 06/07, back when you would find forum posts 3000 pages long about wether skream or benga was the better artist. Back when the best songs were just 3 minutes of wobble. And we liked it.*
Today I was in the computer lab the other day and some kids were playing some crappy remix of Ghosts n Stuff and lauging at things like "that drop was dirtier than fingering your sister and finding your dads wedding ring inside". Like, the oldest of the oldest jokes in the book. And to top it off the drop was horribly timed and was shit.
Thats one of those I LAUGHED AT THAT BEFORE IT WAS COOL
I used to play WoW. I used to play WoW alot. From 04-2010, I probably played an average of 30 hrs a week. I used to play WoW alot. I quit.
Then, the other day I was in the common area, and these hot (hot) girls were talking with some guys, and they were talking about how you need 100% hit rating to hit bosses. And how resilience let's them tank heroics so much easier. Not only that, I just learned like half of my cousins play. 10 people at my work play. My 80 year old world literature professor plays.
That's one of those, I PLAYED THAT GAME BEFORE IT WAS COOL.
So I was wondering TL, what kind of moments have you had where you just wanted to say, I LIKED THAT BEFORE IT WAS COOL.
yes I know dubstep has been around for alot longer than that, but there's no denying that outside of the UK, there were maybe 1k people maximum that would have heard of it
Isn't that the hippie thing. Where it's cool before people like it and now people are always looking for the next underground thing before it becomes mainstream.
No because usually people who say this just make themselves look like huge tools. Especially when it comes to bands/music.
And to be honest noone cares. Do you want recognition for having good taste or being ahead of the curve? Why do you feel the need?
I just dont understand this.
Why not just say "O i used to play all the time" or something that doesnt make you sound like such a tool like "I played that be4 it was cool!" does.
And to people who say "I liked them before they were cool, but i hate them now cause every1 likes em" You are an even bigger tool for letting other people's opinions dictate yours...
I am not aiming any of this at you btw, just saying this is my reason for never saying/doing this especially to strangers.
IF you feel the need just "O ya i used to play that" if you want recognition/to be a part of the conversation. But never drop the "I liked that be4 it was cool to like it" as this will just make people look at you and shake there heads/roll their eyes.
Unless you're a hipster, in which case being a douche is part of your persona, because you aren't interested in whats currently cool, just what you think is cool and no1 else does.
Which is kinda hilarious... is a group of hipsters a paradox?
"We all like the same thing... that no1 else likes yet..." "But if you all like it... are you really a hipster?" It's one of those counter culture paradigms.
"We are cool cause we go out of our way to be different" "But if every1 is trying to be different, are you all similar for having the same goal?"
I used to play original starcraft back when I was 7 years old
P.S.: I'm not lying! That's true I even once got in trouble cause me and my buddy were at this computer lan club playing against each other and it got late and our parents kicked our asses for that :D
Wow...those "hot chicks" sure sound like retards considering resilience only affects pvp.....this is why i am against "main stream" gamers, half of them don't even understand the fucking games they play.
For example I ran into a guy at a gas station, who asked if I played starcraft because of my blizzcon keychain and we exchanged info and got together, interesting guy. I smashed his ass and went 10-0 against him before he just started freaking out and getting really demoralized. Yet when i tried to give him advice on his builds(like...not building 3 depots before a barracks...) he would get all passive aggressive and basically say he doesn't need my help.
Discovering something before someone else does doesn't give you bragging rights. Simply enjoy the fact that whatever thing you loved can now be shared by many more people - stop being greedy.
I always roll my eyes when I hear that. Who cares who saw the shiney first? If you really liked whatever it was, you would want more people to also like it, so the musician/company/whatever can be supported well enough to continue (hopefully) churning out the good products you like.
it's natural for people to feel like they knew it before it was cool. you shouldn't criticize people for feeling that way. we all hate the guys who say "i knew it before it was cool" but when the situation arises and someone talks about sc2 strats you have an urge to say "i used to play bw".
everyone wants to be different, everyone wants to be independant.
I thought this thread was going to rant about people that are so insecure about themselves that they try to derive some superficial superiority over other humans because they discovered something first.
You should be happy that something you like gains popularity...
Have some human kindness and be happy for other people that they also found something enjoyable, don't try to lord it over them.
I liked things before people liking them making it cool. I liked things before others in hopes of creating a singular subculture that went against the norm and mainstream culture before everyone else to portray my individuality and independent free-thought and liberty to assess my own tastes without being droned to conform what everyone else liked.
Here's a list of things of what I liked before you:
I liked wearing my pants really, really low, revealing a large portion of my boxers
I liked wearing boxers when everyone liked briefs
I liked wearing briefs before everyone started having a preference before briefs or boxers
I liked autotuned songs and singers when everyone loved Willie Nelson and Whitney Houston
I liked texting when everyone was making phonecalls
I liked generic cliche movies, often involving Hugh Grant, before everyone else started falling for Ryan Reynolds
I played MMOs before WoW became a conception of an idea and continuously let it consume all my time
I liked acting like a huge nerd, ultimately humiliating myself, to gain the stereotype
I think it's kinda annoying how people smash on shit I like a lot, then like 3 years later its the next thing...pisses me off but hey, people wanna belong so cant blame them =X
thinking you liked it before it was cool doesn't make you a hipster
"liking" something you wouldn't normally like just because it isn't mainstream or "disliking" something you would otherwise like because it isn't mainstream is what makes you a hipster
On May 26 2011 13:41 storm44 wrote: If I remember correctly wasn't WoW popular from the very beginning? I remember being in like 8th grade and lots of people were playing it back then.
Yeah- if you were a nerd.
I was a nerd.
I remember in like 7 th grade I heard these guys talking about leeroy jenkins and one of them asks 'what game is that ' and everyone goes 'it's world of Warcraft, it's like the worst game ever, only losers play it'
Now apparently it's the cool new thing, atleast in my school.
Is this thread for real? No one cares if you liked something when it wasn't "cool". To add, WoW always had a huge player base, larger than any other mmo even from the start. And yet, even today it is not considered "cool" to play WoW. Good thing too. Terrible game.
Welcome to the fashion logic of the world, my guess is that you believe you, as an individual, are unique and particular in your micro-cosmos of fragments that make up for your life...you're not.
Learn to actually enjoy things rather than get caught up in the "cool-passé" logic the world we live in runs by. Hopefully you'll understand the importance of this.
I was reading Harry Potter before Azkaban even came out, I remember seeing TV shows like Good Morning America and Oprah talking about these books starting to explode and I was like 'dude I've already read those *pop collar and wear shades indoors*' then I jumped off the bandwagon because the movies suck
I used to listen to music before it was popular but then I realized theres a reason most people don't do that because half of the new trendy stuff is terrible.
I've heard an actual conversation between 2 hipster males that were trying to out do each other about being into stuff before other people.
I'm always pumped when I find out someone I meet knows about TL, and I'm always a little sad when I find out they only know from SC2. So, I guess I knew about TL before it was cool? But its always been cool in my books ^.^ Prolly cuz TL was the cool kids of the BW world.
Spanishiwa. He crushed me in a tournament harder than I've ever been crushed. (Except maybe Optikzero...) But Span's play really opened my eyes on the importance of drone timing and persistent ling scouting.
Next thing you know he's got a channel and stream and build named after him.
I was in love with socialism before everyone else was, now everyone fucking gushes over their own self concept of socialism whenever someone talks about politics so i just avoid them now.
I played Call of Duty and Call of Duty United Offence before the franchise suffered the Halo Healthy effect. 1st iteration still the best of the franchise.
On May 26 2011 13:44 Torte de Lini wrote: I liked things before people liking them making it cool. I liked things before others in hopes of creating a singular subculture that went against the norm and mainstream culture before everyone else to portray my individuality and independent free-thought and liberty to assess my own tastes without being droned to conform what everyone else liked.
Here's a list of things of what I liked before you:
I liked wearing my pants really, really low, revealing a large portion of my boxers
I liked wearing boxers when everyone liked briefs
I liked wearing briefs before everyone started having a preference before briefs or boxers
I liked autotuned songs and singers when everyone loved Willie Nelson and Whitney Houston
I liked texting when everyone was making phonecalls
I liked generic cliche movies, often involving Hugh Grant, before everyone else started falling for Ryan Reynolds
I played MMOs before WoW became a conception of an idea and continuously let it consume all my time
I liked acting like a huge nerd, ultimately humiliating myself, to gain the stereotype
I respected Koreans before anyone else
I used flash on my camera before Brood War
Feel free to add your own.
you're so fucking full of it. looools. 1 and 2, sure buddy. 5, yeah you invented texting. cliche movies? jesus christ
I can see why you'd dislike "hipster nerds" as Tasteless would say, but I also feel contempt for those people who admit to liking something only because it's mainstream and only after it's mainstream, so that they won't be berated for liking something out of the norm. In other words, it's cowardice.
On May 26 2011 13:44 Torte de Lini wrote: I liked things before people liking them making it cool. I liked things before others in hopes of creating a singular subculture that went against the norm and mainstream culture before everyone else to portray my individuality and independent free-thought and liberty to assess my own tastes without being droned to conform what everyone else liked.
Here's a list of things of what I liked before you:
I liked wearing my pants really, really low, revealing a large portion of my boxers
I liked wearing boxers when everyone liked briefs
I liked wearing briefs before everyone started having a preference before briefs or boxers
I liked autotuned songs and singers when everyone loved Willie Nelson and Whitney Houston
I liked texting when everyone was making phonecalls
I liked generic cliche movies, often involving Hugh Grant, before everyone else started falling for Ryan Reynolds
I played MMOs before WoW became a conception of an idea and continuously let it consume all my time
I liked acting like a huge nerd, ultimately humiliating myself, to gain the stereotype
I respected Koreans before anyone else
I used flash on my camera before Brood War
Feel free to add your own.
you're so fucking full of it. looools. 1 and 2, sure buddy. 5, yeah you invented texting. cliche movies? jesus christ
im over it.
I'm making a joke. Oh, and I liked being oblivious to jokes way before others started doing it unintentionally.
On May 26 2011 13:39 Trowabarton756 wrote: Wow...those "hot chicks" sure sound like retards considering resilience only affects pvp.....
Spoken like a true nerd sir.
Hmmm Hispter confessions:
1. The Matrix... I saw this in theaters.... anyone have any idea how long this movie took to become popular? geez
2. I would say skateboarding when i was much much younger (I'm 26) before it was more of a teenage social statement than something to actually do.
3. I played Counterstrike back somewhere around 1.3~? In those days, the A.K. always hit it's first bullet in the exact same spot, we used an ancient and forgotten technology called "Rodger Wilco" and often spoke like 7h15
4. Played pretty much every console rpg (let alone game) released in NA in the 8-16 bit era. I have to admit my hipster-nerd level skyrocketed when FF7 was released with flashy graphics and a PC port...
5. Played WC2, and as a result, played massive amounts of the SC1 demo (where you could only play TvT on one map). The cool thing was you could play it online, and there were even clans... (when it released, I SWEAR TO GOD I CAN REMEMBER SEEING JULYZERG ON THE BLIZZARD LADDER)
6. Played EQ close to release and WoW vanilla
7. I could talk about music... but I am only humoring this thread... I feel if I actually posted something I WOULD be a hipster :/
On May 26 2011 13:52 rel wrote: Why are you even thinking like that..
Like something because you like it, who cares what anyone else thinks or likes.. Damn.
Agreed. Some people really can't take the fact that they are just a normal human being. Yeah you liked it before it was "cool." So did everyone else. You aren't special, and they aren't giving out medals. Sorry. It's almost as if people based their identity on the fact that they were the "dub-step kid" or "hardcore-rap kid" and all of the sudden they lose their identity when other people start to jump on the bandwagon. If you want to pretend to be a refined individual who is sophisticated enough to like things that others are to inferior to like, then go listen to classical music.
So what if everyone likes dubstep now? All the sudden, the drops are bad and the jokes pertaining to it suck, just because it's mainstream? That's absolutely ridiculous, and is just as bad as liking something because everyone else likes it, you just like something because everyone doesn't and you are probably 100 times more annoying about it ("hey, have you heard of this new band? Oh wait, you haven't because you aren't indie hipster like me"). Don't give me this "it changed after it got mainstream." As if just being "mainstream" means it automatically changes for the worst.
Sorry if this offends. I think such an attitude is extremely immature, and while some of you might think that the more you grow up the more you will adopt such an attitude, I assure you that the opposite is true. You have the right to think whatever you want, and base what you like on whatever criteria you like, but if you base what you like on what other people like then I will exercise my right to think less of you.
On May 26 2011 13:44 Torte de Lini wrote: I liked things before people liking them making it cool. I liked things before others in hopes of creating a singular subculture that went against the norm and mainstream culture before everyone else to portray my individuality and independent free-thought and liberty to assess my own tastes without being droned to conform what everyone else liked.
Here's a list of things of what I liked before you:
I liked wearing my pants really, really low, revealing a large portion of my boxers
I liked wearing boxers when everyone liked briefs
I liked wearing briefs before everyone started having a preference before briefs or boxers
I liked autotuned songs and singers when everyone loved Willie Nelson and Whitney Houston
I liked texting when everyone was making phonecalls
I liked generic cliche movies, often involving Hugh Grant, before everyone else started falling for Ryan Reynolds
I played MMOs before WoW became a conception of an idea and continuously let it consume all my time
I liked acting like a huge nerd, ultimately humiliating myself, to gain the stereotype
I respected Koreans before anyone else
I used flash on my camera before Brood War
Feel free to add your own.
you're so fucking full of it. looools. 1 and 2, sure buddy. 5, yeah you invented texting. cliche movies? jesus christ
im over it.
I'm making a joke. Oh, and I liked being oblivious to jokes way before others started doing it unintentionally.
I had the first iPod in all of my high school of 2500+!
My mom works at a Apple reseller and I heard about it way before it came out, I bought it the day it came out and bumped that shit everyday!! 10gb of dopeness. Now everyone has one.
I'm rather notorious among my friends for being REALLY late getting into stuff. Achron's not popular yet, so I guess that counts, but that's it. Everything else, I'm years/months too late.
I liked Teamliquid when it was smaller. I made a facebook before anyone else I knew did, now I never use it. I liked StarCraft before any of my friends knew what it was. lots of other stuff too.
I became a fan of Thorazain after seeing his games vs. the Fruit Dealer in the first round of the TSL.
On the opposite side of the coin, I turned my nose up at Crocs for a year after they became all the rage--I was all, "These shoes are lame, no matter how many people jump on the bandwagon." Then I got a pair in the airport once, because they seemed more comfortable than wearing my shoes 24 hours, and they promptly became an integral part of my footgear collection.
Oh god, dubstep hipsters are THE WORST. Just enjoy the music for god sakes or don't listen to it / comment on it. If you think skrillex is bad dubstep, there's no need to post a youtube comment about.. just go find a diff artist and post something positive about that artist instead.
There will always be hipster nerds.. that's just how time works. There will always be people who are older than you on the internet, and thus liked stuff before you did.
On May 26 2011 13:39 Trowabarton756 wrote: Wow...those "hot chicks" sure sound like retards considering resilience only affects pvp
Pretty sure I remember resilience makes you get crit less in pve, it was just worse of a stat than whatever the acutal tank gear was(defense? don't remember much).
I am always ahead of trends compared to my friends, but now that I think of it, I can't even say "I liked it before it was cool" because TL gave me the information t.t
I'm sure I must have something... I'l be back later.
Edit1:Disabling caps long on every keyboard I use. Seriously, why don't they remove that button?
Well basically my clothing is the main one. I do not dress out a lot, but one example is that i got sick of all the logos on clothes so i started to wear a lot of plain tee-shirts that were just colored, got made fun of for wearing some colors, now both my older brother (people who hated on me) wear the same thing and stole like half of my clothes and wear them. Not that big of a deal but still.
I hate doing it, so I never really rub it in. But like a ton of people music is such an easy one. You can google "seattle hip hop" and wikipedia gives you a list of people to listen to. Show them to some of your friends that listen to the radio and they think you're this all knowing music god that spends all his time trying to learn of new artists the instant they come out.
This thread just reminds me of the Goth's from South Park. ‘I'm so non conformist I'm not gonna conform to the rest of you', Love it so much. I'm guessing most people who think like this are still at school or maybe first years of university something to do with the social pressure of wanting to fit in when you're younger. Even if fitting in is fitting into the club that doesn't fit in. I would of thought most aldults would realise its best to just like what you like and not worry about what people think abouit it.
When I was younger I exclusively listened to punk rock and Hardcore music, (bands like Pennywise, Rise Against, Strike Anywhere. That kind of thing) I don't really know why but I would never listen to anything else. It was almost unthinkable that I would even give a rap or pop song a chance. It was worse than that though I remeber I used to judge other people by what they listended to and even maybe thought I was somehow better becuase I thought the music I listended to was better. Its really stupid and when I look back on it I kind of realise I was a bit of a douche.
I think if you told Me 10 years ago I would listen to dance music and Kpop just as much as heavy metal and hardcore I wouldn't have believed you. Just like what you like and don't worry about whats cool.
And to stay vaguely on topic I went to a Strung Out gig when there was only about 40 people there. I think they might be pretty big in the U.S not sure but to be honest but they certainly weren't that big in the U.K when I saw them (about a year ago). I was so happy when they made them the theme to the OSL made me doubly excited to be informed the OSL was starting by hearing one of my favourite bands on the telly.
On May 26 2011 13:39 MaestroSC wrote: No because usually people who say this just make themselves look like huge tools. Especially when it comes to bands/music.
And to be honest noone cares. Do you want recognition for having good taste or being ahead of the curve? Why do you feel the need?
I just dont understand this.
Why not just say "O i used to play all the time" or something that doesnt make you sound like such a tool like "I played that be4 it was cool!" does.
And to people who say "I liked them before they were cool, but i hate them now cause every1 likes em" You are an even bigger tool for letting other people's opinions dictate yours...
I am not aiming any of this at you btw, just saying this is my reason for never saying/doing this especially to strangers.
IF you feel the need just "O ya i used to play that" if you want recognition/to be a part of the conversation. But never drop the "I liked that be4 it was cool to like it" as this will just make people look at you and shake there heads/roll their eyes.
Unless you're a hipster, in which case being a douche is part of your persona, because you aren't interested in whats currently cool, just what you think is cool and no1 else does.
Which is kinda hilarious... is a group of hipsters a paradox?
"We all like the same thing... that no1 else likes yet..." "But if you all like it... are you really a hipster?" It's one of those counter culture paradigms.
"We are cool cause we go out of our way to be different" "But if every1 is trying to be different, are you all similar for having the same goal?"
This exactly, I feel strongly about this but can't really add anything, this guy covered all the bases, it makes you look like a tool, there's no reward for liking something before it was "cool" (and probably also before it was good), and the entire hipster mentality is just silly and makes no sense.
The one addition I have is that unless these are the only things that you liked it's actually probable that this will happen. You have no better taste than anyone else, odds just were that some of the things you liked would get big eventually. Other things you liked? Yeah they're still obscure or maybe even gone, so yay for you for being completely statistically normal, imo we don't need a thread about that.
I don't understand this need to feel like you're part of some super secret mini club that knew about things before they became popular. Is it that amazing a thing? Do you get a medal? A prize?
On May 26 2011 14:23 Chairman Ray wrote: I wipe my ass with a toothbrush
Just claiming it now so later on when it becomes huge I can say I did it before it was popular
That was was awesome, man. XD
I think this type of thinking is retarded, though. I felt like this once. People were talking about a specific topic, and I thought "I liked that before it was cool!" I was going to tell them this. I then realized that nobody gives a shit, and went on with my life.
On May 26 2011 13:35 Brutaxilos wrote: i played SC when it was for nerds.
This and WoW, though technically i didn't quit WoW lol. Also i played DotA when it was just some upcoming custom map. Ow and yes, it does make us feel better lol.
So what if everyone likes dubstep now? All the sudden, the drops are bad and the jokes pertaining to it suck, just because it's mainstream? That's absolutely ridiculous, and is just as bad as liking something because everyone else likes it, you just like something because everyone doesn't and you are probably 100 times more annoying about it ("hey, have you heard of this new band? Oh wait, you haven't because you aren't indie hipster like me"). Don't give me this "it changed after it got mainstream." As if just being "mainstream" means it automatically changes for the worst.
I agree with what you're saying in general, that you shouldn't change what you like just because a lot of other people too. And before you accuse me of it, I'm not a dubstep hipster, but:
Things do change when they become 'mainstream', music especially. If you listen to older dubstep tracks, the original underground ones from London clubs. The music is completely different, and yes music develops, but a lot of the older music is slower and more mellow, and with the new crowd, a lot of the music seems to be based on a big build up and then a mind blowing drop.
My point?
Things do change, and maybe this is enough to make you stop liking it, it doesn't make you stupid, it's your opinion.
I joined TL before SC2 (BW forever!) I was wearing converse and vans before they exploded into the mainstream again. I liked Muse before twilight. I started using Firefox before most people knew it existed.
All I can think of right now. The converse thing really bothers me sometimes; I'll throw on an old pair I have and go to class where literally 3/4 of my classmates are wearing them. I love my old shoes but I hate wearing them cause I feel like a tool.
So what if everyone likes dubstep now? All the sudden, the drops are bad and the jokes pertaining to it suck, just because it's mainstream? That's absolutely ridiculous, and is just as bad as liking something because everyone else likes it, you just like something because everyone doesn't and you are probably 100 times more annoying about it ("hey, have you heard of this new band? Oh wait, you haven't because you aren't indie hipster like me"). Don't give me this "it changed after it got mainstream." As if just being "mainstream" means it automatically changes for the worst.
I agree with what you're saying in general, that you shouldn't change what you like just because a lot of other people too. And before you accuse me of it, I'm not a dubstep hipster, but:
Things do change when they become 'mainstream', music especially. If you listen to older dubstep tracks, the original underground ones from London clubs. The music is completely different, and yes music develops, but a lot of the older music is slower and more mellow, and with the new crowd, a lot of the music seems to be based on a big build up and then a mind blowing drop.
My point?
Things do change, and maybe this is enough to make you stop liking it, it doesn't make you stupid, it's your opinion.
Agreed, when certain styles of music get popular, it starts to degrade. Chiptunes are something I have followed for a while. I have heard popular artists mix in chiptunes into their music. It sounds BAD because they are doing it wrong.
There's Hip Hop and "radio" "hip hop" (and r&b).
There's modern soft jazz (smooth listening radio channels) for people that know nothing about jazz, and there's REAL JAZZ which is hard to find on any radio station.
I liked Runescape before it was cool. But the entire thing of enjoying something before it was big has no appeal to me. The idea of other people enjoying an activity you enjoy diminishing your own enjoyment of it is one of the most vain concepts I can imagine.
On May 26 2011 15:45 Kater wrote: Crystal Castles & The Knife
TBH The Knife's first albums wasn't that impressive. It had an OK opening and got worse as you listened. They've definitely improved.
I was a Hydra fanboy before it was cool. I remember him kicking Fantasy's ass in the playoffs last year, either on Judgment Day or Grand Line (some desert tile map).
All the rest of you are posers. Since sex went mainstream and changed, it's no good.
Y'all can have it, I don't even want it anymore.
/sunglasses /slomoswagout
(In seriousness, I can't claim to have liked anything before it was cool. I'm a highly unoriginal person in general. And I FUCKING LOVE dubstep. You hate me, OP. On the other hand, my ex got in on the ground floor with this band that's starting to gain mainstream momentum. That's p cool for her. Maybe.)
How many hipsters does it take to screw in a lightbulb? It's a really obscure number, you probably haven't heard of it.
No. Liking things before they are cool is a classic symptom of hipsterism. I would recommend you get it checked out before you buy a bicycle and start liking bands that no one has ever heard of before.
you know, the older i get the less i care about this. i'm glad people are appreciating the bands i liked, good for them. now if (big if rofl) starcraft gets popular one day i'm gonna gloat about that all day, for all the kids around the world that got called nerds because of a hobby.
I did for the death note manga. Read it from like chapter 3. It actually made me hate the manga after it became ridiculously popular, as shameful as it is to say it.
But then I read the rest (I stopped after the first half) and realized I was somewhat justified in having stopped. The second half was not as good as the first.
TL (sort of) Flip flops TI-89 (had this shit in like 7th grade to do pre-algebra for me lol) Xanga Youtube (back when yousendit/rapidshare where the goto sites for uploading, I was spamming Youtube and confusing people. "Whoa you don't have to download?").
Gmail (had an invite system back then)
Can't think of anything music-wise. I usually just find out about music from hearing it somewhere rather than actively searching.
On May 26 2011 13:39 Trowabarton756 wrote: Wow...those "hot chicks" sure sound like retards considering resilience only affects pvp
Pretty sure I remember resilience makes you get crit less in pve, it was just worse of a stat than whatever the acutal tank gear was(defense? don't remember much).
wowtalk
That was before defense got removed in cataclysm and -crit% got built into the tank classes.
Unless the chicks were doing some berserker stance tanking in fury spec. That's hot.
Like before cool is hipsterism alright. The only case I object is, whenever something really cool becomes mainstream (or popular), the following versions of it becomes shitty in contrast.
BTW: What does being a hipster have to do with buying a bicycle?
On May 26 2011 16:28 Lionexx wrote: I liked Starcraft 1 before everyone else in this thread liked broodwar -_-
Had those brick mobile/cell phones in the 90s before cell phones got popular. I remember my dad had to carry the adapters and large battery packs around lol.
I was a Lord of the Rings fan before Peter Jackson's movies came out.
I frequented Youtube videos back in mid-late 2005 when they launched.
Also used Facebook when it was growing through colleges.
Mika System of a Down DOTA WAS SUCH A BETTER GAME AT VERSION 3.1b Diablo (Had the username "Fire!!!!" because blizzard allowed illegal characters then) Facebook Bashing Apple products Trolling in general chuck palahniuk
I dont think I am really considered a hipster, most of the time I am happy if something I like gets popular, but for example, when I am listening to system of a downs newer albums and someone says something along the lines of "You should listen to their self titled album" I get pissed, of course I have listened to their self titled album, I have listened to all of their albums your filthy whore, go cuddle up in your fluffy little blanket! Do you understand what I mean?
On May 26 2011 17:00 Kleinmuuhg wrote: DotA man, I played that shit from Version 1,85
Yeah, I played some of the really early ones but the best version was 3.1b imo It was RoC and they still managed to get custom models in there and spells.
The original Halo. I remember me and my friends got it the day it came out and we all took turns playing the campaign over and over again. And for our middle school minds, 8 player get togethers at my friends stepmoms house was too much excitement to handle. Now it's all like, online and crazy. We take 4+ multiplayer halo games for granted now, and gone are the days of trying to find something new to do in your favorite campaign level as your friends watched.
MvP Team. I started being a fan before they were even on Zotac invitational. And now they are GSTL finalists with having at least one player of each race in code s.
I liked BoBurnham before he was cool and sold out.
I thought Kas was top3 terran outside Korea before he plsced 2nd in an offline event and before his run through TSL.
I had the first Chuck Norris jokes web in Czech Republic and whenever I wrote a facebook status about it, people asked wtf I'm on. 4 years later Norris jokes are part of our main radio station broadcast and everyone's using it. It makes me actually bit sad how slow internet things get here. Almost noone from my friends know about trollface/fuuuuuuuu/forever alone memes...and when they get to know it's not funny for me anymore.
I was probably the first person at TL to write about Effort's alien look.
Dexter/Californication
I always thought Bisu was the most handsome progamer out there (with Reach) and never stopped believing in him <3
I used "Altair" as the name of my avatar for every rpg I owned way back in the day (Dragon Warrior 3, for instance). Then Assassin's Creed came out and now I feel like I can't use it anymore. It would probably be my sc2 id if not for AC T_T
pretty sure a big portion of TL can say Starcraft before it was "big" aka day9 daily with 100-150 viewers and that was a lot.
Watching Bisu vs Savior MSL Live Klazart live commentaries in ventrillo channels at 3 AM. etc. Also man where streams insane to find for a while or Low quality. Back in my day you had to listen to chinese commentators sometimes..
Saying the word "fail", was doing that 10 years ago. Now it's a terrible meme
Liking Brent Weeks books (will be huge someday).
Also Friday, I linked a ton of people it when it was only at 10,000 views and helped it gain momentum a little bit :p Was funny watching it blow up over 24 hours.
Anaheim ducks when they were Mighty ducks of anaheim in 2000 with Paul Kariya playing for them. Well, that was when they were actually COOL, but whatever i still like them.
A friend of mine really likes the Donnie Darko film theme song from 2001. Then like 5 years later it was all over the radio and we were like WTF, why do they just discover it now?
I started playing WoW around 2005, then ever since it exploded I can't find myself playing it anymore. I dislike mainstream so much. Don't get me wrong though, I don't just dislike mainstream for the sake of being different. The best comparison I can make is, I hate mainstream music that's played on the radio, it's so generic and simple to me. I'm a metalhead, but not one of those people that claims to be one because they listen to Metallica, Megadeth, Disturbed, etc. I listen to metal that the average person doesn't know of unless they go looking for it.
I have to say though, I'd love to see Starcraft get huge, and it seems like it's well on its way.
On May 26 2011 18:08 kirdie wrote: A friend of mine really likes the Donnie Darko film theme song from 2001. Then like 5 years later it was all over the radio and we were like WTF, why do they just discover it now?
On May 26 2011 18:08 kirdie wrote: A friend of mine really likes the Donnie Darko film theme song from 2001. Then like 5 years later it was all over the radio and we were like WTF, why do they just discover it now?
So he is just 1 step less cool than the people who liked the band that played the song before the movie came out?
So this is a round-about way to say respect your elders?
On May 26 2011 18:08 kirdie wrote: A friend of mine really likes the Donnie Darko film theme song from 2001. Then like 5 years later it was all over the radio and we were like WTF, why do they just discover it now?
You guys know that crappy ¨crunk¨ stuff that's all over the place now? Or,, right now it's more of a hybrid but anyways. I listened to that trash long before it was pop, i had quite bad taste in music for a while in my early teens.
But i have to say , old ¨crunk¨ is better then the new mainstream ¨crunk¨. It's still bad though.
Enter Shikari (not sure how popular they are outside of the UK)
But I remember going to see them in place with like 50 people when there music was good. Maybe 03/04 i think
Now every jonny badass thinks there awesome by listening to them, even though they butchered there whole entire music collectionwhen take to the skies came out.
A similar thing to the OP aswell, listening Midnight Request Line back then. Although I will always remember listening to DJ Pinch and Hatcha in 2005/06
What if the now cool thing was unknown back then? As in only when it went "mainstream" did you really have an opportunity to experience it? For example, dumbfoundead was just a random korean rapper i never heard about, but through sc->kpop-->jay park-->dumbfounded i was able to learn of him and his music is pretty cool.
Maybe bad example, but if a thing BECOMES cool is the only way ppl will hear about it, and then likes it, how do you distinguish those ppl from the bandwagons.
Every build i do in starcraft i feel so unique doing it until suddenly in GSL or TSL someone does the almost exact same build and then everyone starts doing it, so annoying.
Also WoW ofc, i cant stand the community any more, not that it was ever that great, but now everyone i know is playing it -.-
Also stuff like Halo 1.
Imo when games go mainstream they sort of ruin themselves. The community goes to shit and the game just loses it's charm (i'm talking about WoW/CoD/Halo mainstream-ish, not sc2.) Which is also why i wouldnt like sc2 to "blow up" or whatever.
I started using the word "assly" and the phrase "that's ass" independently because I wanted to replace the word "gay" with something catchy that could be used in the same way with the same meaning. Just one or two weeks later I heard Conan say it, and was mesmorized. Sometimes an idea is just ready to pop and multiple people suddenly have it at the same time, just from living in the same era. But yeah it didn't really catch on and I myself started saying "lame" instead.
On May 26 2011 14:31 MaxField wrote: got made fun of for wearing some colors, now both my older brother (people who hated on me) wear the same thing and stole like half of my clothes and wear them. Not that big of a deal but still.
^ this
its not about being better than anybody else because you knew something before it was popular it's that the same people who make fun of you because you do or like something different, are the first ones to follow the new trend once it becomes popular, and then they act like they forgot what they said before,
When it comes to me, I don't really suffer from the hipster mentality. When it comes to music and other stuff I care about though, I can be a bit of an elitist.
"You call this shit hip-hop?! Are you fucking kidding me?!!??!!" "How the fuck can you listen to this shit!!??"
I liked Zoolander before the girl I was dating and our waiter had a mind-numbingly dull conversation about it.
I liked REM before they lost their religion.
I liked the Avengers when Emma Peel meant Diana Rigg, not Uma Thurman.
I liked Iron Chef when it was an import.
I liked the Cranberries before Zombie. I still like them, but I HATED that particular song for a long time. Do Rush fans feel about Tom Sawyer the way I feel about Dreams?
I liked the world poker tour its first couple seasons, but stopped when there was just too much poker to follow it all.
P.S. Some people are missing that 'I liked before' implies 'didn't like after', that you stopped liking something when it became cool/mainstream.
For example, I started listening to dubstep back in 06/07, back when you would find forum posts 3000 pages long about wether skream or benga was the better artist. Back when the best songs were just 3 minutes of wobble. And we liked it.*
yes I know dubstep has been around for alot longer than that, but there's no denying that outside of the UK, there were maybe 1k people maximum that would have heard of it
stop thinking that outside of the uk = usa and if you really think that it was only skream / benga era in 06/07 , then stop.
besides, music knows no borders nor eras, theres only development and hopefully because of the genre going mainstream tad , it will bring more attention to other styles within dubstep. and yes, I do consider myself as an elitist when it comes to 140tempo music.
I was one of the first who saw "Lord of the Weed" (a resynchro of Lord of the Rings in german) cause i played at that time with a guy who knew the people that maked it.
i still got asked if i knew it about 3 years later...
I believe the general explanation for this phenomenon is that things becoming "cool" means they get popular and thus watered and dumbed down from their original content to suit a wider audience, and negatively affects the "original" fan. At least in the case of music, mostly.
I kind of think like OP, but it's because i don't like when people like something because it's mainstream. I know this isn't always the case, but i generalize a lot. Generalizing sucks
Let's get something straight... WoW is and never will be "cool". And I hate when people do what you do. I was at the pool with some friends and a song came on the loudspeaker, one of my friends said he liked that song and another one instantly brought up for he liked that song a few months ago. Hate it.
I watched Futurama before it was cool. I watched Family Guy before it was cool. I was on that website way before it was cool. I listened to dubstep way before it was cool as well.
The latter two things have become significantly worse due to their exposure, and hence I get pretty pissed off at how mainstream they both are. I tend to rage at a lot of things, pretty much everything really.
I liked daft punk before they were cool (e.g. before their album discovery, and way before kanye did his stupid ass remix with harder better faster stronger)
On May 26 2011 13:36 DivinO wrote: Every single music thing ever. That's a huge exaggeration. But everything from dubstep to electro to bands like MGMT and Fleet Foxes...
I feel like a massive hipster for saying it, and I am kind of a hipster, sad to say.
Eh, whatever.
I saw MGMT before they got sued, when they were still The Management... Hipster'd
This thread is hilarious
Also when someone accuses me of being a hipster my standard reply has now become " I was a hipster before there were hipsters" Usually works out well.
Since when was WoW cool? I've seen many other posters here have the opposing opinion. Just because something is popular doesn't necessarily make it cool. ._.
On May 26 2011 22:20 Rawrsi wrote: Usually I have mates recommend bands to me and I am like known of them for ages. >.<
So when that happens, do you think... a) I'm so cool, I heard of them first!!! b) I'm so lame, I could have told my friend about good music ages ago...
I was/will be ahead of a lot of people at being involved with esport in general . So in 10 years when SC2 is on TV at prime time and in the newspapers all over the world i can look back at this post and feel good that i was involved with the growth of esport
On May 26 2011 13:59 The_LiNk wrote: I played Call of Duty and Call of Duty United Offence before the franchise suffered the Halo Healthy effect. 1st iteration still the best of the franchise.
ooh snap. I remember that on the PC, protecting that bridge town from invading forces waiting for backup to arrive on the hardest setting.. argh... (on easy everyone survived, on hard.. i think just me and the captain did) trying to find Panzerfausts to deal with the tanks while not getting your head shot off was soooo stressful. Loved the original CoD. Never finished United offence but the Bastonge levels at the start were awesome.
Also in reference to that post... I played Halo before it was cool too, Xbox connect Halo 1 <3
So many things.. I remember not liking Linkin park when they released Hybrid theory. I like them even less now. Pokemon blue... Pogs (me and my friend were the first kids to ever take them to school) not cool anymore ofc.. but damn they blew up big time for a year (94/95'ish)
So many things lol. I'll say now the 3DS cos I have one and few people seem to atm.. but they will do, cos it's awesome. Theres just a bit of a dearth of games atm. Although the new DoA is decent, next month we get RE: Mercs and Zelda :D then watch all the bandwagoners.
It is the phrase of regret that others are taking over what you once saw as yours... Of course we all want to feel special and unique, and claiming special connection to something mainstream makes us feel like we can keep liking that thing without being part of a fan club. ... I liked TL.net before it was cool!
When I played DOTA when I was like 10. Everyone else was playing fricken cod or some stupid game. Now, everyone is playing LoL and thinking they hella raw.
I totally get the OP. I used to be into this website called Teamliquid.net. Then SC2 came out and now too many people think its cool. Id totally martyr myself, but martying has become too mainstream
Then, the other day I was in the common area, and these hot (hot) girls were talking with some guys, and they were talking about how you need 100% hit rating to hit bosses. And how resilience let's them tank heroics so much easier. Not only that, I just learned like half of my cousins play. 10 people at my work play. My 80 year old world literature professor plays.
That's one of those, I PLAYED THAT GAME BEFORE IT WAS COOL.
I was listening to Mike Posner, Far East Movement and Sam Adams before they became famous. Next up - Hoodie Allen (already gaining popularity)
I was at the midnight release for Vanilla WoW
I bandwagoned the OKC Thunder when they only won 23 games 3 years ago now they are the "in" team to like. Next up - Wizards (3 - 5 years) that team will be good if they keep their core
On May 26 2011 23:22 Supamang wrote: I totally get the OP. I used to be into this website called Teamliquid.net. Then SC2 came out and now too many people think its cool. Id totally martyr myself, but martying has become too mainstream
haha i'm one of those lamers that came to tl when sc2 came out. sorry to rain or your parade!
I also played in an SC league before replays were introduced.
I usually try to behave in an avant-gardist way, because new things get old quickly and the corporations maintaining certain constructs fail politically. Somehow the improvements they make are balanced with the good things they remove. Like in sc2, where many nice strategies were removed and there is still no balance and a very low level of transparency, while some bugs were removed. I usually like the beta a lot more.
Then, the other day I was in the common area, and these hot (hot) girls were talking with some guys, and they were talking about how you need 100% hit rating to hit bosses. And how resilience let's them tank heroics so much easier. Not only that, I just learned like half of my cousins play. 10 people at my work play. My 80 year old world literature professor plays.
That's one of those, I PLAYED THAT GAME BEFORE IT WAS COOL.
That made me smile. WoW was cool?
I remember in middle school up to early highschool you would never admit to playing WoW unless they were your friends but Junior and Senior year I remember a lot of the popular kids started playing and getting into it and it became a lot more accepted. I feel like a lot of popular kids like jocks are more nerdy now with video games and I am not surprised if WoW is considered "cool" like Call of Duty in some High Schools or whatever.
Kanye West, Leonardo Di Caprio (i liked him in the Titanic times and saw the good actor in him, a time where when i talked about him people classified me as cheesy/gay whatevs), Kas, Fight Club, Lord of the Rings and many more.
Im generally an indicitor for mass appeal. Things i like are becoming mass appealy most of the times. Maybe adapted too much from mainstream into my general taste of art etc.
I was interested in Japanese language and culture long before the asian boom where everyone and their grandmother watches anime and want to move to japan to live with robots.
On May 26 2011 23:47 W.O.L.F.Y. wrote: Kanye West, Leonardo Di Caprio (i liked him in the Titanic times and saw the good actor in him, a time where when i talked about him people classified me as cheesy/gay whatevs), Kas, Fight Club, Lord of the Rings and many more.
Im generally an indicitor for mass appeal. Things i like are becoming mass appealy most of the times. Maybe adapted too much from mainstream into my general taste of art etc.
I guess being full of oneself is the next big mass appeal
I liked the song ' Somewhere over the rainbow ' by Israel Kamakawiwo'ole back in 06 ' before it went mainstream last year, just to squeeze some more money out of this lovely song >.<
I liked Mumford and Sons as soon as the band formed, as I knew about two of the members back when they were on other bands, and heard a song they did before they were offically a band. Was a little cool watching them explode into what they are now.
But that's about it. I'm not very hipster. Oh, and I liked Hurt Locker and recommended it to everyone about a year before it won it's Oscar. Did the same with The King's speech. But those weren't about being hipster, it's about following film festivals and such.
SC related: I was a Bisu fan before he beat Savior. I remember someone leaked a replay pack of him when he was still considered an up and comer and I used those reps to up my game cause of his clean play. I then took a 1 1/2 year break from SC and I come back to TL and what do I see? Bisu #1 on the power rank and him having beaten Savor 3-0 months ago. Waaaaaat.
Music: The first time I got high I listened to Infected Mushroom with my friends. This was before they started making commercially successful soft music. I got nothing against commercially successful music, but their music got soft, so much so you can't call it psychedelic trance anymore.
Internet jargon: I started playing SC before the whole MSN craze, so when I started adding my classmates and talking over MSN, people would inevitably ask me what does LOL and ROFL mean. I was like WTF.
For me, knowing something before it got popular isn't about recognition, but about going: WTF, this is popular now, and reminiscing about stuff you did 10 years ago.
On May 26 2011 13:44 Torte de Lini wrote: I liked things before people liking them making it cool. I liked things before others in hopes of creating a singular subculture that went against the norm and mainstream culture before everyone else to portray my individuality and independent free-thought and liberty to assess my own tastes without being droned to conform what everyone else liked.
Here's a list of things of what I liked before you:
I liked wearing my pants really, really low, revealing a large portion of my boxers
I liked wearing boxers when everyone liked briefs
I liked wearing briefs before everyone started having a preference before briefs or boxers
I liked autotuned songs and singers when everyone loved Willie Nelson and Whitney Houston
I liked texting when everyone was making phonecalls
I liked generic cliche movies, often involving Hugh Grant, before everyone else started falling for Ryan Reynolds
I played MMOs before WoW became a conception of an idea and continuously let it consume all my time
I liked acting like a huge nerd, ultimately humiliating myself, to gain the stereotype
Believe it or not, it's actually important to examine these kinds of things from a business perspective. Anything that "goes viral" or becomes a trend or the next hot band became that way because they were discovered by a small group of people who then shared their interest with everyone they knew, and then they shared it, etc. Marketing specialists try to find people who are 'trend setters" to basically exploit their talent of spotting trends before they happen.
I started to rate females as "as whory as men" before anybody (Till now only 1 person agreed with me :D). Or.. perhaps im the only one saying it ... (2 years single now, dont do this).
I liked everything before it was cool - because nothing is cool unless I like it. Thus once I start liking something, it becomes cool.
Its pretty hard to do this because honestly, someone out there will say that they liked it before you, and by the time you rolled around to liking it, it was already cool.
Let's see... I was quite early registering at D2jsp for mah d2 trading. Did it in early 2006. I also played D1 before D2, which most people haven't. Started playing Wolfenstein: ET in 2003.
When I started wearing dress shirts and skinny jeans, pretty soon half the class was wearing the same stuff. I recently got myself some really nice new leather shoes, and I'm curious if it's going to go the same way again.
I had sunglasses with really big glasses back in 2005, before it went mainstream.
not a hipster but internet ruins majority of things for me meme spamming and shitty rage comics are somewhat less funny when the entire population of the planet is spamming them constantly non-stop on every stream/website/show
I liked table tennis before it became a huge fad at my school. When I was in 6th grade I borrowed a "how to play table tennis" book written by a professional and set up my table so I could practice a ton. I eventually got really good and won at a school tournament and church tournament. People thought I was crazy because I used my whole body to play rather than just my wrists like most people.
I was interested in making dubstep, particularly the ambient kind (ex: Vaccine). I made a test track and I was rather pleased with it. Then all the bros and party sluts got into it and I thought, "oh god, I do not want them as my audience."
On May 27 2011 01:37 MiniRoman wrote: ...the internet
Yep, BBS in 1993. Also, MMO gaming in 1993. Dragon Ball in 1991 or so, before the American translation was out (Canada got it first, but that translation is lost in time now). Anyone who played Diablo 1 on release is with me in playing it before it was cool (the number of D2 elitists is appalling).
That said, giving in to popular trends has given me the following: Harry Potter Pirates of the Caribbean Metal Gear Solid series PS2, much later than other people bought it The Wheel of Time series Resident Evil 4 (I hadn't played its predecessors, though going back I don't care for them) Fallout 3 (See above)
And countless other things. Mass media/public acceptance has done me some good.
There are probably things I liked before they became cool. There are things I liked after they became cool. But I certainly don't let someone else's perception of how cool something is, or when that something became "cool" affect me. "Cool" is a matter of opinion. All I care about is how cool I think something is, and I don't go out of my way to mention to others something like, "Yeah, that's been sweet for a while." And honestly, I wish more people were like me.
I played video games before they were "cool" and popular I have been playing since I was five.. So that's 13 years of video games.. Started on the NES. Sure people were playing video games before I was born but for how popular video games are now I was way ahead of the game.
Not the actual "I liked before", but the "I saw before"-moment. yea. All the stuff like Two and a half men, big bang theory, family guy etc etc I watched em at least 1-2 years BEFORE everybody started to talk about...
I used to be the nerd, always owning one. I always was asked 'What's a mac, yo? Computer? PC?' Eeeew, yeah. Now people buy expensive shit cause there is the glossy aqua apple on it. Those iPhone and iPad morons are destroying the company that used to stand for individualism, difference. Now everyone knows and loves or hates it. Can consider Apple as 'cool' now i think.. I'm not cool.
Don't get me wrong, i still own a mac. i'd never buy a windoze machine. But i got my reasons. Which is my work. So before you guys start hating me, don't bother.
My work won't change and so is my operating system.
Hey LOTR people, you realise those 3 books where among the most popular books way before the movies were announced? You know, like in the freakin 40's?
Anyways, I've been drinking single malt whisky way back when all the distillerys where still trying to copy jack & johnny.
On May 27 2011 02:20 AndyBear wrote: I liked opera (browser) before it was cool.
oh wait.. its still not cool... my time will come.
hahaha! this^^. Also too often I'm one of those obnoxious guys who tries to act smart by disliking everything popular, I'm trying to quit this but my constant reflex is to do this i don't know why; It's so easy to find faults in stuff since nothing is ever perfect.
On May 27 2011 02:28 Schwopzi wrote: Hey LOTR people, you realise those 3 books where among the most popular books way before the movies were announced? You know, like in the freakin 40's?
Anyways, I've been drinking single malt whisky way back when all the distillerys where still trying to copy jack & johnny.
Stop assuming 90 year olds don't browse TL. Ageist.
Its easy to say "i liked X before X was cool" with X being cool right now. What about the stuff you like right now? Is it cool? Or will get it cool eventually?
I used to have that mindset in high school. I guess it made me "ahead of the curve" as someone pointed out in this thread. I guess it stems from the need to elevate yourself. Then I realized how stupid that was.
I guess if I had to pick something, from back in high school, it would be when Eminem was starting to get big. Among other music related things.
It's a shitty mentality and you know it. If you ENJOYED IT, why should you feel weird when other people enjoy it too?
Or do you just feel superior because you did things when they weren't cool? Following the trend is cooler and makes you a hole lot better socially. Talking about dub while it is cool is when it's best to talk about it obviously, the rest of the time noone knows what you're on about and you have to explain it to them.
yeah, a weird topic, cause i liked a lotof stuff, but now i just hate em, its like when i first found out about mu online i was like - hell yeah, i want that shit!!!! but after like a while it got so popular that io hated it!!! the same with WoW, i wanted to play it cause my brothers friend said it was awesom and stuff, but really when i tried it, it seemed like a piece of shit, but when it was not that popular i kinda liked it! i had like the same thing with cars, cause now my favorites are mercedes-benz (ofcourse), but when i was little my favorites where BMW, cause not everyone had them, and they werent like a symbol of racinor anything(well they were, but not that much)! but now i dont like them, the only one i like is e30, but rarely! i could continue like this for pages, but im too lazy 0_o
I used to be the nerd, always owning one. I always was asked 'What's a mac, yo? Computer? PC?' Eeeew, yeah. Now people buy expensive shit cause there is the glossy aqua apple on it. Those iPhone and iPad morons are destroying the company that used to stand for individualism, difference. Now everyone knows and loves or hates it. Can consider Apple as 'cool' now i think.. I'm not cool.
Don't get me wrong, i still own a mac. i'd never buy a windoze machine. But i got my reasons. Which is my work. So before you guys start hating me, don't bother.
My work won't change and so is my operating system.
On May 27 2011 03:17 Aelip wrote: It's a shitty mentality and you know it. If you ENJOYED IT, why should you feel weird when other people enjoy it too?
Or do you just feel superior because you did things when they weren't cool? Following the trend is cooler and makes you a hole lot better socially. Talking about dub while it is cool is when it's best to talk about it obviously, the rest of the time noone knows what you're on about and you have to explain it to them.
Because when something becomes "cool" it often just ruins it. Like the WoW community, or certain other games where they start to cater to the casuals and sort of sell out, it also happened with CoD.
Then there are games like Halo where the community is just so bad and you get called a faggot all the time because every 13 year old has it.
Basically when something becomes popular it often just moves away from what it was and towards mainstream middle ground. If that makes any sense
Not to say am a fashion guru or anything, but every time a like a new style of clothes people think am a weirdo or something but always 6 months down the line everyone is wearing them and by then am onto a new style.
Black rimmed glasses (the resurgance in the 2000s), My Morning Jacket, house music (now DJs get loads of young consumers staring at the stage and not dancing), It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, Borat (that one really bugs me. noone knows about the UK shows in America), Brian Regan, Karl Pilkington (before Ricky Gervais made him a TV/podcast icon)...
Back in EVE online I was one of the first players to use the ship known as the "Rapier". For a while there it was considered one of the worst ships in the game with probably less than 10 people, out of 100,000+, who actually used it with any frequency. Then I found an exploit to abuse the rapier's long webifier range and spread it all over the forums. Over the next month it became one of the supreme ships in the game until it underwent multiple major nerfs. It's still considered a useful ship despite all the nerfing.
On May 26 2011 13:39 Trowabarton756 wrote: Wow...those "hot chicks" sure sound like retards considering resilience only affects pvp
Pretty sure I remember resilience makes you get crit less in pve, it was just worse of a stat than whatever the acutal tank gear was(defense? don't remember much).
wowtalk
Res was like if you wanted to laugh in a heroic you'd get crit capped with it. Defense gave parry dodge and something else along with a better crit per point with tank gear actually having proper stats. I didn't play a tank then either, it was just something decent people knew because you didn't want a windowlicker tank in your PUG.
Ummm, besides that, I may have been about a week ahead of the curve for Friday, but I didn't really like that, so thats out too. Baseball I've played since I was a kid, but that was cool 150 fucking years ago. I guess I can't say I liked anything before it was cool :D
I feel like this when it comes to anime. I've asked people about their favorites genres and series and they come at me with a hipster response by putting out the underdog series that come fresh out of seemingly no where as an animation.
I'm like bitch please, I read the manga 5 months ago and predicted that it was good enough to become an anime based on my "stock-exchange-esque" forecasting of the climate of the Anime community and their demands in regards to supply..... psh these noobie anime fans. It takes intelligence to make good predictions and analysis, and when they come true it means that you're a legit anime freak. Here, BOKU WA TOMODACHI GA SUKUNAI will become an anime.
I hate how what I've said is true because it makes me feel like a hipster when I'm just a crazy fanatic =_=.... which are both bad... not to mention its obnoxious fml
Youtube videos... Always about the youtube videos. If someone is like: "Have you watched that video where that guy bla bla bla?" and I'm like YEA OFC, I watched it when it was only 20000 views, wouldn't believe it would have 2 million views.
I just had a major hipster period when that Rebecca Black video came out with the song Friday. I watched it when it had like 200,000 views or something like that and then when everyone asked me about that song I couldn't stop the urge to scream I SAW IT FIRST.
On May 26 2011 13:39 Trowabarton756 wrote: Wow...those "hot chicks" sure sound like retards considering resilience only affects pvp
Pretty sure I remember resilience makes you get crit less in pve, it was just worse of a stat than whatever the acutal tank gear was(defense? don't remember much).
wowtalk
Res was like if you wanted to laugh in a heroic you'd get crit capped with it. Defense gave parry dodge and something else along with a better crit per point with tank gear actually having proper stats. I didn't play a tank then either, it was just something decent people knew because you didn't want a windowlicker tank in your PUG.
they changed that a few years ago. i think resilience was only like that for that first expansion it was in the game.
I know a guy that does this with literally everything anyone brings up. While I feel this way very rarely, it's actually really, really annoying to hear someone say that they knew it first. Who the fuck cares? We can enjoy it together now.
Most of the time it was TV shows with me. I would always ask if people had started to watch a show and they would never hear of it and then 2 seasons in they would talk about it like it was this brand new show ... I guess I just don't sell things well
Penguins. No joke. One of the first things I can remember winning was a penguin stuffed animal when I was like 4 from a vending machine. Still have it as a matter of fact! I always considered penguins my favourite animal(s), but once this whole penguin craze started like 6 years ago I've always been emberrassed to consider 'em my favourite as I just end up being portrayed as a sheep.
A didn't read 17 pages, but I'll just offer my 2 minerals.
I was into electronic music (the breakbeat parents of dubstep, in fact) before dubstep existed. So what? Somebody was into it before I was too. And someone before them. Timeline doesn't really mean shit.
I think that your real complaint is that some people are bandwagoners.
And I feel your outrage. Bandwagoning is the single most destructive cultural phenomena with regards to spoiling wonderful things that I love. I'm sure far more articulate people could write whole essays describing why bandwagoning is so destructive, but for whatever reason, they take something good, dumb it down, remove it's uniqueness, import their trashiness, and then leave it to die when they find the next craze. You have no idea how angry I am that all of the drum and bass production crews around here started throwing dubstep shows instead of dnb so they can cash in on the fucked up 18 year old shithead demographic. And the bandwagoning phenomena has literally destroyed every mmo since wow. Gajillion Wow players join, bitch about the game sucking, go back to wow, game collapses.
In South Africa, non Major American series take a while to come out sometimes (Although I wouldn't know what gets hyped, or is major, in America), so I watched Dexter before everyone jumped on it. By the time everyone else was watching it, it was on season 3 or something.
But I never read the books first so I still fail.
I also used to watch Ray William Johnson videos back when they were funny.
At a time in elementary school most of my friends were into aliens and stuff and I tried to find a video game with aliens, and randomly bought Starcraft. best money ever spent on a video game
Also before Trolling became popular i guess. I often talked to people in a way to try to get a rise out of them if they were either talking/ asking really stupid question.
Every time I see a thread like this I think of a song by Five Iron Frenzy....
"You found a way to draw a line between the world and you faking your identity it's true did you think the word alternative was only meant for the likes of you?" If you draw your sense of self from the media you consume/hobbies you enjoy, it's not going to have a lot of integrity.
On May 27 2011 05:25 Dark-Storm wrote: Also before Trolling became popular i guess. I often talked to people in a way to try to get a rise out of them if they were either talking/ asking really stupid question.
who popularized trolling? there's been many popular trolls on TV, but i'm not sure where it starts. Colbert has made a living off it, as did the Ali G show. Let's just derail this thread into who was the first troll on television (and who watched them before it was cool).
Pretty much everything I do was cool WAY before I did it, like playing video games, skateboarding, and playing guitar. However, I have been doing those 3 activities since I was a kid so I am somewhat good at them as a result.
I don't care about doing it before it was cool, but I hate seeing guys the same age as me who suck at these things... Nothing more awkward than seeing someone over 6 feet tall getting less than 1 inch off the ground with his ollie. It's like "well what the fuck ARE you good at then?" (probably picking up hot girls and getting good jobs and being outgoing, something I am not good at hahaha)
I remember playing a user-made Zombie mod on CoD:4. Then, after WaW had zombies, almost every CoD after had something along those lines. I also remember playing Call of Duty before the word 'DLC' became mainstream. In the good old days, DLC was a free patch with a map or two.
A didn't read 17 pages, but I'll just offer my 2 minerals.
I was into electronic music (the breakbeat parents of dubstep, in fact) before dubstep existed. So what? Somebody was into it before I was too. And someone before them. Timeline doesn't really mean shit.
I think that your real complaint is that some people are bandwagoners.
And I feel your outrage. Bandwagoning is the single most destructive cultural phenomena with regards to spoiling wonderful things that I love. I'm sure far more articulate people could write whole essays describing why
bandwagoning is so destructive, but for whatever reason, they take something good, dumb it down, remove it's uniqueness, import their trashiness, and then leave it to die when they find the next craze. + Show Spoiler +
You have no idea how angry I am that all of the drum and bass production crews around here started throwing dubstep shows instead of dnb so they can cash in on the fucked up 18 year old shithead demographic.
And the bandwagoning phenomena has literally destroyed every mmo since wow. Gajillion Wow players join, bitch about the game sucking, go back to wow, game collapses.
I completely agree. If only it were a real wagon, though.. Then we could tip it over and say, "fuck off"
I hopped on Google Chrome bandwagon quite early on and never looked back. Actually, make that any Google service or product.
I actually liked Facebook too, around the time when it was still mostly a student thing, it still required you to fill in your school details and all (but was open to everyone at that point I think). I was one of the first people in my country to register an account to keep in touch with some online friends. I actually liked it back in the day because the site layout was really simple and relaxing , and it was very unobtrusive (the exact opposite of what it is today).
Dwarf Fortress, it was commonly referred on gamedev.net (a community I frequent) way before it had as big following as it has today.
I think that The Hobbit is JRRT's greatest work and an all-round fantasy masterpiece (in before they make a movie).
Finally, I was also one of the first activists in the Montenegrin independence movement. =)
On May 27 2011 05:43 GigaFlop wrote: I remember playing a user-made Zombie mod on CoD:4. Then, after WaW had zombies, almost every CoD after had something along those lines.
This as well except my first Zombie mode experience was on CoD 2 on my PC. I still to this day don't respect Console FPS players.
Also to continue this thread;
I liked the MLS before you like the MLS I liked Facebook and Myspace before you liked Facebook and Myspace I liked Starcraft before you liked Starcraft I liked Runescape before you liked Runescape I liked local bands before they get famous and everyone likes them
Though It doesn't bother me when other people like what I do which apparently some people get mad at? who cares if you found it first its not yours...
Dunno if this counts.. i played AoC back in 98' with Dial-up connection and went to a friends house un 99' cause his parents buyed him a supercool alien game called Starcraft ... played them ever since... never getting better at any of those and beeing a feed noob in ladders
Oh.. i also used Msn when everybody asked me for my ICQ number... to what i can add.. i used ICQ before it was swarmed by porn bots invites
I remember listening to music on YouTube, and one of the comments said, "I hope he never goes mainstream so he stays awesome!" I don't get the mentality -- you hope he never becomes successful so you can be one of the few "cool" people who knows an artist everyone else doesn't? Similar to when I listen to Muse videos and people say, "Thumbs up if you liked Muse BEFORE Twilight!"
Do you really have to flaunt your knowledge of a group before everyone else? Like a post on the first page said best, if you want to enter the conversation you can say, "Oh yeah I listened to them," or, "I used to play that," not, "I liked that before it was cool!" I don't get this mentality.
Sure, at least with music, when artists get more popular they start making more songs for the general audience which often changes their songs ("he was good until he went mainstream"), but that's the only explanation I can think of. For example dubstep -- my friend (who was into it for a long while) told me about it last year around the same time a lot of people were finding out about it. Yeah there are those people who like sloppy sounding dubstep and make the bad, "this is so dirty that. . . " jokes, but at least the genre is getting more popular, so artists can be more successful and there can be more artists. And the good dubstep is still there and will always still be there. It doesn't just disappear because the genre becomes popular.
With all probability there will always be someone who listened to something or did that particular thing before you did. I think I had that attitude/mentality when I was about fifteen years old.
On May 27 2011 05:18 ToxNub wrote: And the bandwagoning phenomena has literally destroyed every mmo since wow. Gajillion Wow players join, bitch about the game sucking, go back to wow, game collapses.
I played WoW open beta and it was a blast, but really WoW was always pretty popular.
The one thing I played before it went super mainstream was Call of Duty...yeah like the original. Then this shitty expansion came out and we called the original game vcod (vanilla CoD). Then CoD2 came out and it was okay...then CoD4 came out (modern warfare) and all my friends are like "holy shit call of duty is so awesome" and by that time I was tired of it and barely even played it...now we have modern warfare 3 coming out, what a joke.
I liked Harry Potter before it was cool! I was 11 at the time, lol. I hated the movie because it felt like Harry Potter sold out XD. Man, I was such a nonconformist back then. (probably still am)
Still waiting on the day I can say I liked metal before it was cool, that day will probably never come though!
Started eating right before it was cool and all other health stuff. Oh no wait? People still eat junk food and just torture and poison their bodies over long time by eating like noobs. LOL
It's a timeline thing. Back in 2006/07 I played CoD4 competitively, and I was one of the new kids who didn't play CoD2, and was on my team's B-list for some time. Now I play Black Ops at my friends house and absolutely dominate everyone (and yes, I view it as a terrible game).
Same thing with WoW. My guild called me a "BC kid" for ages. I, of course, call people Wrath babies. And I shall be calling people Cata fetuses.
I liked being a geek before everyone started watching Big Bang Theory. Now most of my friends have started learning useless facts and wearing T-shirts with logo's and saying's, they know nothing about.
This might be showing my age but back in the early 90's when I first started college I first discovered and fell in love with anime and manga at roughly the first time I discovered the internet. Keep in mind that this was many years before it hit big time with Dragonball, Pokemon, etc and became mainstream. There was a very very small anime/manga scene in North America and I felt like I belonged in an exclusive club.
Then the 2000's approached and then it felt like our exclusive get-together was invaded by the rest of the country. I went from feeling alternative to feeling like a mainstream sheep. I sort of lost interest in anime/manga over the past decade as a result (also, I just felt I had outgrown manga that was primarily aimed at adolescents).
i liked being a nerd before it was... almost normal. skipping classes to play CS and raid in WoW or play games of DotA/ladder on wc3, those were the days. ive liked minzy since day 1 of 2ne1. i liked hardstyle before it became a thing. liked anime since i was 6 and havent looked back since, and disliked other anime fans since i was 7.
skateboarding, guitar, sc at my school, and WoW (quit after i downed LK though). Idk, I really enjoy finding new people who are really into things I like, but when it gets to that point where it's the "new thing" to do at school and everyone gets so arrogant over it it's really annoying. Like how they opened up a guitar class at school and not a single damn person is interested in music theory or understanding the guitar itself they just want to fit their own image.
On May 27 2011 06:47 Bairemuth wrote: I played WoW open beta and it was a blast, but really WoW was always pretty popular.
True, but not many thought that it was going to be the epic giant it eventually became. I remember when Blizzard first announced they were vernturing into the MMO market I first thought , "they are going to fail so miserably."
I totally agree with the OP..except for the fact that I always feel like I like things before the people who like things before they're cool. It really kills me when I encounter random hipsters talking about the usual underground bands. It usually irks me enough where I have to jump in and explain to them that the under-underground is where it's really at. For example, when I heard these designed glasses-wearing kids with blazers and skinny jeans on talking about Arcade Fire and My Morning Jacket, I'd jump in and tell them about how I'm teaching my little cousin to play drums right now, and once he gets older and forms a band, they'll be all the rave, and that I was there when it started - with the rest of the few true fans.
Not to be harsh, but it just seems like the OP just wants to brag about how he's a hipster. And for what it's worth, WoW was always "cool"/popular. (It destroyed the opening day sales record for PC games upon its retail release. http://business-video.tmcnet.com/news/2004/Dec/1098177.htm)
I played video games before they were just for the multiplayer purpose, you know back in the day when you bought a game for the campaign(SC still has that effect on me, but its one of the only ones nowadays)
The CoDs are prime examples of the multiplayer only games, they have like 10hours of singleplayer and its not that great
On May 27 2011 09:50 brazenraven (post count 4) wrote: hoooly pretention batman. this thread would not have existed before the launch of SC2 -_-
I liked this guy when his post count was only 3... ^_^ + Show Spoiler +
1. Join TL yesterday. 2. Pretentiously complain about how pretentious people are now, and how things were better before you joined. (romanian humor is deep) 3. ??? 4. Don't get banned.
i get that for music a lot, but the worst is when people jump on the band wagon when it becomes popular and then theyre like: "their new album is good but i like the old stuff better" but the new album is good and they only say they like the old stuff to show that they liked the band before it was cool. -_-
few years ago i showed a lot of my friends the what what in the butt video wayyy before people knew about it. since southpark made that episode, everyone's all like OMG WHAT WHAT IN THE BUTT LOLOLOL
I played mmorpgs when they were hard.. Now it's all easy mainstream mmos like wow :/ Sigh.
Back in the days of Dark age of camelot, it took skill to play mmorpgs... Skill as in skill like Counter-strike.
A few months back I tried one of those mainstream mmos. I laughed and instant quit when I saw people calling themself "hardcore mmo players", cos they knew how to pve.. oh god.
On May 27 2011 09:50 brazenraven (post count 4) wrote: hoooly pretention batman. this thread would not have existed before the launch of SC2 -_-
I liked this guy when his post count was only 3... ^_^ + Show Spoiler +
1. Join TL yesterday. 2. Pretentiously complain about how pretentious people are now, and how things were better before you joined. (romanian humor is deep) 3. ??? 4. Don't get banned.
aha! but to say i am pretentious because i have low post count is in itself pretentious. I would say since I am not pretentious, that you are the one being silly and pretentious.
On May 26 2011 13:36 DivinO wrote: Every single music thing ever. That's a huge exaggeration. But everything from dubstep to electro to bands like MGMT and Fleet Foxes...
I feel like a massive hipster for saying it, and I am kind of a hipster, sad to say.
Eh, whatever.
I saw MGMT before they got sued, when they were still The Management... Hipster'd
This thread is hilarious
Also when someone accuses me of being a hipster my standard reply has now become " I was a hipster before there were hipsters" Usually works out well.
I really dislike this way of thinking, I had a couple of friends that succumbed to this, trying to be "cool" all the time and being ahead of the times, its really sad in my opinion. One of them actually said to me once "I used to really like Biffy Clyro, but now everyone likes them so they suck!" -.-. As people have said, like something because you like it, not because it is "cool" to like it or "uncool" because everyone likes it.
I can add to the thread in a more positive manner however, in that I used to play Call of Duty, the first one, online all the time. In fact it was one of my first online games that I got really involved in (funnily enough it was with one of those guys from above), and kinda got to disliking the game after number 2, which actually co-incided with the game getting more popular. This was not a cause and consequence thing though, it was actually more to do with the game requiring less skill than the early versions which I didn't like as a transition (I loved my rifles in CoD 1 and 2!)
Damn you Welliforgot, I was about to post the same thing!
I liked PurePwnage back in the first season of their web show, before people screamed "Boom, Headshot!" in FPS lobbies.
I was subscribed to Freddie Wong on YouTube back when he made Guitar Hero videos and had less than 150 subscribers (for those of you who don't know, his videos consistently get 1 million views in their first week now. He's hilarious).
I liked Bo Burnham way before he got big.
I liked the Lonely Island back when "Lazy Sunday" was their only hit, and nobody even knew it was them who wrote it.
I thought Rick Rolling was hilarious before most people had heard the words "We're no strangers to love".
On May 27 2011 11:46 Baz wrote: I really dislike this way of thinking, I had a couple of friends that succumbed to this, trying to be "cool" all the time and being ahead of the times, its really sad in my opinion. One of them actually said to me once "I used to really like Biffy Clyro, but now everyone likes them so they suck!" -.-. As people have said, like something because you like it, not because it is "cool" to like it or "uncool" because everyone likes it.
I can add to the thread in a more positive manner however, in that I used to play Call of Duty, the first one, online all the time. In fact it was one of my first online games that I got really involved in (funnily enough it was with one of those guys from above), and kinda got to disliking the game after number 2, which actually co-incided with the game getting more popular. This was not a cause and consequence thing though, it was actually more to do with the game requiring less skill than the early versions which I didn't like as a transition (I loved my rifles in CoD 1 and 2!)
i dislike the personality too and i am a victim of it. I just cant help it its in my nature.. It pisses me off when i have this feeling but it pisses me even more when i realize i have it
I remember being very unwilling to tell people I played WoW because almost all of the people in my school thought WoW was just a retarded, addicting video game. I eventually quit, and then CoD4 came out and like 90% of my friends got it and they wouldn't stfu about it. I was like, "You idiots thought addicting video games and spending all your time there was retarded, and now you can't talk about something else." Even now, years later, people I know hear *WoW* and they think of nerds in dark basements, but they sit on the xbox cursing and playing CoD and are like, "Yeah that's totally different, nbd." I don't dislike them for that and I'm not bitter about it, but it makes me sad to see people be like that.
I remember being very unwilling to tell people I played WoW because almost all of the people in my school thought WoW was just a retarded, addicting video game. I eventually quit, and then CoD4 came out and like 90% of my friends got it and they wouldn't stfu about it. I was like, "You idiots thought addicting video games and spending all your time there was retarded, and now you can't talk about something else." Even now, years later, people I know hear *WoW* and they think of nerds in dark basements, but they sit on the xbox cursing and playing CoD and are like, "Yeah that's totally different, nbd." I don't dislike them for that and I'm not bitter about it, but it makes me sad to see people be like that.
I think that kind of thing is funny/amusing myself. If the whole world was that way, it might be sad, but for every person like that there's also another who isn't--just consider how many have played WoW in spite of its "fat nerd living in mom's basement" stigma.
As for my own hipster moments, I can claim MGMT and that's about it. I dunno if playing BW in 2000 counts or not, but I lean towards not.
On May 27 2011 15:14 CakeOrI)eath wrote: I liked BW After it was cool =(
Those that can say that and that they liked it before it was cool are the epitome of coolness.
Being able to say I liked it before it was cool is pointless to me, it has happened, many times. It is only cool when I still like it when people has moved on to the next thing. Meaning I have found something I actually like, it isn't just a fad in my life.
I was born in '93 just as the team itself started declining and their popularity with it. Back when I was in Elementary/Middle School only hockey players, like myself, would wear anything with a spoked B on it.
Now wearing Flat-rim snapback Bruins hats are the cool thing to do along with making statuses on Facebook saying something obvious like 'x player scored'.
Supra's, Skinny-jeans, (insert hipster shirt here), and a Bruins hat. Pisses. Me. Off.
I dislike how when I look up any random underground hip-hop songs, it became customary to 1up any comment regarding how much SouljaBoy and the like suck. People are trying so hard not to be tools that they still end up being so.
I think it's a bit of a stupid mentality. I even feel it myself sometimes, like when a band becomes popular I used to be like "Oh that's gay, I liked them before anyone blah blah blah," my idea being that I was the first to have ever known about them and that somehow made me special.
Now I kind of realize that with things you like, other people catching on and enjoying them is actually a really good thing. Not only do the artists make more money, which they deserve, you share a lot more with the people you meet and interact with.
On May 27 2011 17:13 Shamrock_ wrote: I think it's a bit of a stupid mentality. I even feel it myself sometimes, like when a band becomes popular I used to be like "Oh that's gay, I liked them before anyone blah blah blah," my idea being that I was the first to have ever known about them and that somehow made me special.
Now I kind of realize that with things you like, other people catching on and enjoying them is actually a really good thing. Not only do the artists make more money, which they deserve, you share a lot more with the people you meet and interact with.
I agree to an extent. It is a bit annoying when people start to "enjoy" the same things you do when they're the type of people you don't want to be grouped with, and because they like the same things you do now, you inevitably are.
On May 27 2011 10:37 Blisse wrote: Muse before they went mainstream. So disturbing. I think I found them the year before Black Holes.
Muse have the most messed up fanbase I've ever seen, and the reason why is because Matthew Bellamy went from being a blend of Chopin and The Smashing Pumpkins, to U2 arena pop/rock. I got into the band during the Black Holes era, because I was recommended to listen to them, but I mainly like the older albums. The fans of the early period, see the later albums as a sell-out, while the fans of the new material see the early material as "Matt's crazy period", without really understanding it. Most ppl don't get Origin of Symmetry, but to me it makes more sense than any album I've listened to, because the sounds on that album is the same as the voices I hear in my head.
I generally don't like it when people liked things before they were cool and brag about it... I had a friend that was always like this and whenever he's like "oh i knew them before blah blah blah blah" and i usually reply with a "so?" and it shuts him up every time.
i liked thorzain when he smurfed as Yakero on NA server. I didn't really know it was him at the time but I had him on my friend list and chatted with him breifly a few times about strategy.
liking something before it was hip is kinda similar to being something when it used to mean something, making a lot of republicans hipsters. Never looked to reps with the same eyes
On May 27 2011 18:01 Barca wrote: I liked the Mumford Sons before everyone knew who they were...
Like when they won "Best New Artist" even though they'd been around for 3 years. Lawl.
I honestly never heard of them until like theo ther day. They are pretty good actually. But think about it bro, what band is going to be a band for just a few months and win new artist of the year, bands take years and years of practice together before they can be groundbreaking.
I have a theory. I think that there are two types of nerds: The first type of nerd is the socially inept dork. The second type of nerd I'm not really sure how to describe, but i think this nerd is a hipster at heart, since the nerd is never the most popular and therefore never quite follows the most popular things.
I was 13 around 2000 and had just finished reading The lord of the rings. I thought I had found a hidden gem among gems. It wasn't long that I found out that I had just read what 100 other millions of people read what to be prolly the most famous book of the century and a huge blockbuster movie was in production scheduled for 2001-2-3. But as when I read it,I didn't know it was so famous so I always had this mentality(and still have),'' Yo,dude,I'm like the grandson of Tolkien,lemme teach you bout middle earth.''
On May 27 2011 17:13 Shamrock_ wrote: I think it's a bit of a stupid mentality. I even feel it myself sometimes, like when a band becomes popular I used to be like "Oh that's gay, I liked them before anyone blah blah blah," my idea being that I was the first to have ever known about them and that somehow made me special.
Now I kind of realize that with things you like, other people catching on and enjoying them is actually a really good thing. Not only do the artists make more money, which they deserve, you share a lot more with the people you meet and interact with.
I agree to an extent. It is a bit annoying when people start to "enjoy" the same things you do when they're the type of people you don't want to be grouped with, and because they like the same things you do now, you inevitably are.
That's a good way to put it, and it is true you don't want a bunch of douchebags enjoying the same things you enjoy, especially if their appreciation is shallow, but there isn't a lot you can do. Just enjoy things in your own way. When, where and how you found out about it doesn't matter.
I start listening to some fairly unknown band and like them very much, then suddenly their new album becomes mainstream hit and everyone's like "yeah I've listened to them always" so annoying. Most recently happened with Pendulum, now it's very popular here in Finland and everyone's listening only the newest album...
I don't understand the 'hipster' mentality at all. You enjoy a band, genre, game, series, etc. before it gets popular and you, the supposed supporter of whatever it is, don't want it to become popular? Talk about absurdly selfish as if the band was playing music just for you.
When Starcraft gets cool in the future and everyone plays it and it's what the people you don't like do, will you stop liking it? I hope not, because then you're just basing your likes/dislikes on what other people approve of, albeit in an inverse way. It's just instead of the kid saying 'Oh I like football now because it's the popular thing and I want to be popular' you're the kid saying 'Oh I don't like WoW now because it's the popular thing and I don't want to be a popular kid'
Dubstep (or Dub) was actually a sub-genre of popular reggae in the 60s, therefore I'm almost 100% sure that it was heard out of the UK, hence why it was called "Jamaican Dub".
well it's obvious, the people who liked it in the first place, only liked it because it made them feel different or "indie", not for the actual content.
Dubstep would probably be my thing started listening to it in 06 and was basically alone amongst people I know at least (nobody really liked it until a bit later). Now hardly sounds anything like it used to and it's at an all time high in popularity, some of it's ok I guess but they basically took the bits I liked the least from the genre and now that happens to be the 97% of dubstep being thrown around.
I guess it's similar to liking old metal and now all they play is screamo or whatever and call it metal and everytime you talk about metal meaning the former people think you're referencing the latter (I don't listen to either but a lot of people don't listen to dubstep or any sort of electonic stuff even).
I don't give a crap that it's popular, I give a crap that once it became that I don't even like it (well the popular wobblyfilthfingering stuff). It used to sound a lot more varied, now people don't think it's dubstep unless it sounds like an elephant being sat down onto a traffic cone for at least half the song.
You have to care less about this stuff. We're on the internet a lot more than the average person so we find out about things much earlier than they do. Hipsters find out about stuff when it becomes more mainstream through friends, TV, magazines etc. I've been in a million situations where a classmates says "have you heard about this?" when I myself heard about it over 2 years ago. It doesn't bother me because I can say "yes, I know about it" and then have a conversation. Don't let it bother you.
the only thing i think of on this subject is: i can remember playing wow with some friends in high school in 05/06, ofc we started using the word 'epic' in regular conversion and people were like 'wtf'. obviously now everything is epic.
On May 29 2011 22:27 soulpoetry wrote: the only thing i think of on this subject is: i can remember playing wow with some friends in high school in 05/06, ofc we started using the word 'epic' in regular conversion and people were like 'wtf'. obviously now everything is epic.
On May 27 2011 11:40 Arterial wrote: Muse before Twilight.
Ohh, very good example. I feel the same.
Muse was in Twilight? Why would they do that? Muse is still awesome though, actually listening to it right now.
I actually don't really have something that I liked 'before it was cool'. Since either the stuff I like doesn't get cool, or it is 'cool' already (like TL )
I read A Song of Ice and Fire and the Geralt Saga, before they were cool. I played WoW before it became good, while it's bad again. I played DotA before TFT came out. Also: Muse before Twilight
Since when is WoW cool (troll face) But for serious, the OP is not a hipster, its only that his "scene" gained popularity which attracted all the hipsters. Don't worry friend, eventually Dubstep and Wow will begin to lose popularity. Enjoy your time now, being one of the few veterans of your scene and having a hobby that will get you chicks.
On May 29 2011 22:42 Mabilis wrote: I played Dance Dance Revolution in 2001-2002 before it was "cool." I had to mod my Playstation 1 (PSX) in order to play burned japanese games.
1998 Here. But gotta admit, DDR was cool amongst people back then.
I thought it got popular then died around 2002 though.
I used to play WoW. I used to play WoW alot. From 04-2010, I probably played an average of 30 hrs a week. I used to play WoW alot. I quit.
Then, the other day I was in the common area, and these hot (hot) girls were talking with some guys, and they were talking about how you need 100% hit rating to hit bosses. And how resilience let's them tank heroics so much easier. Not only that, I just learned like half of my cousins play. 10 people at my work play. My 80 year old world literature professor plays.
That's one of those, I PLAYED THAT GAME BEFORE IT WAS COOL.
not having a girlfriend... might not be cool yet, but we are entering an age of misanthropic degenerates so it's only a matter of time.
the future guy has more important things to do than surrendering to the hormonal urges of nature to find a suitable copulation partner.
letting natural desires take the driving seat for personal satisfaction... besides medical complications, is that any different than taking heroin, cocaine?
On May 31 2011 02:06 shizna wrote: not having a girlfriend... might not be cool yet, but we are entering an age of misanthropic degenerates so it's only a matter of time.
the future guy has more important things to do than surrendering to the hormonal urges of nature to find a suitable copulation partner.
letting natural desires take the driving seat for personal satisfaction... besides medical complications, is that any different than taking heroin, cocaine?
Yeah, I liked the ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ before it became cool, go search ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ on teamliquid and look at the thread, thats when I first discovered the ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ .
On May 31 2011 02:06 shizna wrote: not having a girlfriend... might not be cool yet, but we are entering an age of misanthropic degenerates so it's only a matter of time.
the future guy has more important things to do than surrendering to the hormonal urges of nature to find a suitable copulation partner.
letting natural desires take the driving seat for personal satisfaction... besides medical complications, is that any different than taking heroin, cocaine?
yeah its quite different.
i liked harry potter before it was cool, but now i dont ):
i liked muse for a while then found paranoid android and was like the fuck is this?
Starcraft, the Internet, Facebook, Gran Turismo, Drum'N'Bass, Dubstep, some german Rappers who got super famous in the end, countless american rappers, dan brown's books, Thomas Müller (German football star nowadays), Toni Kroos (same, not quite as famous tho.), countless nerd pictures spammed on society sides that still make casual's giggle make me yawn at best cause 10 years old and that's just what comes to mind instantly... seriously if you've been in the internet for 12 years and you look at how the internet [and the starcraft community as well, lolz] has developed you'll always find a shitload of "I liked that before it was cool!"-occasions.
On May 31 2011 02:06 shizna wrote: not having a girlfriend... might not be cool yet, but we are entering an age of misanthropic degenerates so it's only a matter of time.
the future guy has more important things to do than surrendering to the hormonal urges of nature to find a suitable copulation partner.
letting natural desires take the driving seat for personal satisfaction... besides medical complications, is that any different than taking heroin, cocaine?
On May 31 2011 02:06 shizna wrote: not having a girlfriend... might not be cool yet, but we are entering an age of misanthropic degenerates so it's only a matter of time.
the future guy has more important things to do than surrendering to the hormonal urges of nature to find a suitable copulation partner.
letting natural desires take the driving seat for personal satisfaction... besides medical complications, is that any different than taking heroin, cocaine?
Perhaps you should get out more...
but if you have a girlfriend, then what makes you different to an ape?
if you have a girlfriend then you're 100% following nature, primal instinct and just doing what the chemicals in your brain are telling you
On May 31 2011 03:26 Nizaris wrote: i liked the internet before it was cool. Who else here remembers using LYNX as their only browser ? think it was '94 back then.
Jeez I started '98 and thought that was early... Got grey hairs already?
On May 31 2011 03:26 Nizaris wrote: i liked the internet before it was cool. Who else here remembers using LYNX as their only browser ? think it was '94 back then.
Jeez I started '98 and thought that was early... Got grey hairs already?
On May 31 2011 03:26 Nizaris wrote: i liked the internet before it was cool. Who else here remembers using LYNX as their only browser ? think it was '94 back then.
Jeez I started '98 and thought that was early... Got grey hairs already?
ya and i'm not even 30 yet ><
Ugh and I'm almost 24 now... You got me a lil' worried now...
On May 31 2011 03:26 Nizaris wrote: i liked the internet before it was cool. Who else here remembers using LYNX as their only browser ? think it was '94 back then.
Jeez I started '98 and thought that was early... Got grey hairs already?
ya and i'm not even 30 yet ><
Ugh and I'm almost 24 now... You got me a lil' worried now...
Don´t worry... I´m 30 for a few months now, and in January I was even asked to show my ID when i wanted to buy cigarettes... although the woman at the counter did seem quite short sighted . Grey hair (or even worse, no hair, I´ve seen THAT one with twentysomethings too) is not mandatory, you can get away with getting older, but maintain a stupid humor and (in my case) still lookyoung (and extremly handsome, of course ! )
The biggest "problem" I have is finding music that does not bore me, as I always listened to a lot of music and a lot of stuff really just screams "huh... didn´t like that too much 10 years ago, isn´t better now" or "band xxx did this better when I was younger, but its okay I guess".
I understand this thread very well. I have this feeling on my love of Japanese penspinners (but that is something almost nobody will understand here :D).
Saw this thread and got excited, want to "brag" about all the things I was into and thought was cool before it was cool too.
Here's my rant:
The internett, started playing games on the first black and white brown box thingy with just black and white lines, then these tape recorder thingys, then commodore, then Amiga, then Atari, then 8bit, then Sega then 16 bit then games on the computer.
Started playing Diablo 1 when it first released loved that shit waaay before it was cool. My first English book was a fantazy one about the character Drizzt. Also predicted they would make LOTR when I read it, since it's so "sheep/masses" likable, and already then was annoyed they wouldn't make out of one of the much better books.
Was also Athetist when it was really awesome, everyone expected me to get babtised, everyone in my school got it, and I refused, got thrown out of "chrstian" class, nearly flunked school because I refused to belive in it, and lost quite a bit of respect from some of my relatives.
I loved starcraft before that was cool as well, maybe because it resonated so well to me when I was young, just felt so good at it, and it felt natural, didnt practice or have to work for it. I also started following reading on Teamliquid when the page was made, but never made account because I get so addicted to things like writing posts etc.
I also really wanted to join Liquid guild 10 - 12 years back, when I felt like I was easily good enough to join it, think this was start of Starcraft, played very high on some Cloud ladder, and I remember beating Testie when he was "unbeatable" (turned out he was using maphack) and my style was very basic but maphack won't help much, Made gate 9, send out first zealot, and I try to keep aggressive till I win or die was my approach lol. I digress lol, anyway, my best mate in sc, Heat, a very good Norwegian and my practice partner had a beef and went nuts when I talked bout "omg, let's try join liquid" going on how much better he was than them refusing to try. (Boy do I regret not listening to my intuition not going for that lol).
Stopped playing games around SC relase, it kinda put a new standard for games and nothing really matched it, still don't lol, kinda sick, so stuck to that game for 5 years or so.
I also dwabbled into WoW, I don't think anyone here think it's cool since it's inferior to SC, but if you've felt and seen the magic I've felt and seen with WoW, im sure some of you would change your mind.
I loved the state of that game the first 3 years, it was beautiful, and it felt really balanced in my eyes, when it comes to dueling, that's 1 vs 1. Since I've always been a big of a fan as you can be of SC, I appreciated the details, the 1 vs 1 aspect of things, and WoW was no different. I didn't care much for accomplishing things with a big group, well, I did do it, and it felt nice and all, but that was just like having a wank, a little good, and you do it for a rise here and there, but that's not what you're pursuing.
I wanted to have as strong a character as possible, I wanted to be unbeatable, I wanted to be strongest. (Same as probably every competitive sc/pro gamer feels when they play a game I guess lol).
And I set out to do that in WoW, I wrote down all the spells of all classes on a chart, Id look at it for hours, id study it, I'd track down and hunt down the strongest players in Europe, id bug them, Id transfer to their realm, I'd fight them till I could beat em. I did get that tittle Rank 14 on 2 characters as well, 2 "dueling characters" Rogue and Mage.
So to wrap up this story before I make it way to long, I was all analytic, and into WoW before there was any reward for it, I thought it was cool way before Arena was every planned or thought of, I was doing that "when it was cool".
Oh oh, remebering more things. I played Magic the Gathering way before it was cool, now I don't even think it's seen as cool, but it was then, i'm sure lol. It was when they sold 3rd edition in the stores I played. I think that's around 18 years ago or so. Started hustling cards, and was all into the trading buisniss. (trading cards that is)
I live far up north, so there's a lot of winter here, almost everyone goes skiing in winter, so when I was a kid, I decided to get a Snowboard, I felt that was much cooler, but back then it was like going with 1 skii, and not seen as cool at all, but now the "Snowboarders" are seen as the "cool kids" with their hip clothes, tan, white teeths and carefree attitude lol.
(Hmm, now i've sat for nearly 10 minuts just pondering, trying to think of if i've been cool anywhere else... Feel pretty stuck now lol).
Oh oh, I just rememberd a few things. The kinda of things you see at "Things that make you ROFL" threads, the "elaborate" games people play on others, the pranks. I did that way before it was cool. I also did "jackass" things way before jackass, but not malicious or hurtful "jackass" stuff, a little more subtle and uhm, deviant. Ohhh do let me explain lol.
My humour is of a rare kind, I love it as long as I love it, I suddenly lose track of time and I care little or nothing if others find it fun/cool nor do I share it with people, or want to brag much about it. (Sometimes I do rarely, here and there when I seek attention or recognition in a social gathering, but most of the time I keep it to myself).
Let me write a story about a "true story" from my Starcraft times, this is probably 8 + + years ago, not really sure. But when it happened doesn't matter too much, just that there wasn't really any Youtube or anything like that.
There was this King of the hill tournaments going on (pretty sure it was that). And Gosugamers was broadcasting it via radio cast (That's how they did it before in SC). So you'd have 2 commentators sitting there talking about what the gamres are doing. And the games were between Draco and Testie, and I really felt like I wanted to take part, or do something, and I started thinking "How can I get into those games". So I schemed up a plan, I got hold of the names of the people organizing the event, and 20 minutes before the games I contacted one of them, and I told him I was a friend of Draco, and that he might come 5 - 10 minuts late due to some obstacles. Then I contacted one of the other commentators told him I was a friend of Testie, and that we earlier in the day had gone for some Burrrritos, and he was having a rough time at the bathroom, so he might be a few minuts late as well. When Draco came on, I msged him and told him I was one of the organizer guys, and we might be running 5- 10 minutes late, and I'm not sure what I told Testie, cos id usually just troll or say something silly lol (I remember once I got my mate SaFT to play my account and school him so he was all confused wether I was godlike in sc, or not, so he hadn't figured me out lol).
Anyway, then when the games were to start. I got the organizers to use me as middle man, cos they thought I was talking on behalf of the gamers, so I got to tell them the secret password to join and stuff, so that was awesome.
So when the event started, it was the 2 players and the 2 commentators and me!!!! Oh my how much fun I can have on my own lol (one of my best abilities lol), and the games started. As the game started, I sit there, and I get to talk in Allied chat to the commentators, and for the entire show, I'm just sitting there answering their questions, adding in "small white lies" as I go along, and as I "prod and feel" i'm expanding on my stories, making them white lies bigger and bigger, just to see what I can get away from.
So they're asking me how Testie Prepared for these games, and I get to reply!! Told them he always hated Draco, with a passion, because Draco stole his e-gf. And the commentators having a blast, talking about what im saying in chat. When they started talking bout what kind of practice, and vs which opponents, I added in that Testie gotten a poster of Draco in his room the past 2 weeks, so it's the first thing he thinks about before bed and when he wakes up.
Pretty small harmless lies, but that's the kind of stuff I loved doing, so to sum up this story (Even though I could have elaborated and made it go on and on lol). I was doing the ROFFL, thingy way before it was "cool"
The Ninja guy pretending to roleplay on sex sites, the first time I read it, I freaked out, cos I was 100% sure someone just took my shit and copied it lol.
Ok, that's enough for now, remembering hundreds and hundreds of stories now. Not had this much fun "feeling allowed" to write and brag about stuff and it's accepted and allowed, wuhu xD
TL;DR I just rant and go on about random stuff, you didn't miss much =]
EPT
I even once got in trouble cause me and my buddy were at this computer lan club playing against each other and it got late and our parents kicked our asses for that :D
(when it released, I SWEAR TO GOD I CAN REMEMBER SEEING JULYZERG ON THE BLIZZARD LADDER)
Klazart live commentaries in ventrillo channels at 3 AM. etc. Also man where streams insane to find for a while or Low quality. Back in my day you had to listen to chinese commentators sometimes.. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/kUvub.jpg)
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