EPTSmoking Ban in NYC - Page 7
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TBone-
United States2309 Posts
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Kamais_Ookin
Canada4218 Posts
On May 24 2011 07:53 Egyptian_Head wrote: It smells like shit bro, makes me cough up. I don't want to inhale smoke for every corner of the street I cross or want to take a stroll in the park or whatever, that's the big deal.Yes lets ban everything that is slightly annoying to anyone else. Thats surely going to lead to something good. People over focus on smoking, I really don't see what the big deal is. | ||
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Deja Thoris
South Africa646 Posts
On May 24 2011 07:45 TALegion wrote: I'm finding TL more and more hypocritical every single time a post like this comes out. So many people are for this because they believe smoking is bad, and no one should do it. If there's a thread about a limit/ban of video games, TL users are up in arms about human rights and how a government shouldn't get to tell anyone how to live their personal life. You should look at why TL'rs have the views they do before you call them hypocrites. Can someone elses gaming negatively affect my health? No Can someone elses smoking near me negatively affect my health? Yes See the difference? I have no problem with the government telling people their choices shouldn't negatively impact on me. | ||
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Baarn
United States2702 Posts
On May 24 2011 07:59 Fission wrote: Studies have shown that drinking moderate (read: 1 glass) of red wine a day is actually quite healthy for you  I'm all for banning smoking from parks and beaches, I hate walking through all the cigarette butts in the sand, uhg. Only if smokers can smoke 1 cigarette then some org would pay for results in study to keep people buying their product but encourage moderation. | ||
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Lexpar
1813 Posts
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Deleted User 183001
2939 Posts
While you do make a point with your question, there is a profound difference between being a serious alcoholic, and consuming alcohol moderately. The latter scenario isn't bad for you NOR for others (unless you're a bit too tipsy and plan on driving). Alcohol isn't physically addictive like nicotine, so it's not like drinking will make you crave it like crazy (of course it can be psychologically addictive but that's a different story). With tobacco, you become physically addicted and it's not easy to get off even when you are in a healthy and happy state of mind. So imo, what BroodjeBaller says still stands, although at the end there he goes to the point of wishing for the complete shutdown and ban of the tobacco industry which I don't agree with. | ||
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Krikkitone
United States1451 Posts
and I can defnitely understand in an area as dense as NYC. | ||
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Egyptian_Head
South Africa508 Posts
On May 24 2011 07:59 Fission wrote: Studies have shown that drinking moderate (read: 1 glass) of red wine a day is actually quite healthy for you I'm all for banning smoking from parks and beaches, I hate walking through all the cigarette butts in the sand, uhg. So you are not apposed to making getting drunk in bars illegal then? | ||
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Egyptian_Head
South Africa508 Posts
On May 24 2011 08:01 Kamais_Ookin wrote: It smells like shit bro, makes me cough up. I don't want to inhale smoke for every corner of the street I cross or want to take a stroll in the park or whatever, that's the big deal. Quiet self centered there, what about what other people want? | ||
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Minigun
619 Posts
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Legatus Lanius
2135 Posts
On May 24 2011 06:10 Blizzard_torments_me wrote: Kinda ironic really. They let stuff like like gun rights for civilians run free but they ban smoking. the resultant cancers/respiratory illnesses from cigarettes probably kill and maim alot more people than guns do | ||
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xOchievax
United States69 Posts
Some might argue that if we don't like smoke we can just go somewhere else (especially in the case of non-essential areas such as the beach or parks), but I don't believe anyone should have to choose between their health and their activities (unless of course the activities are inherently unhealthy) simply because somebody else decides they want to smoke in public. | ||
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Kamais_Ookin
Canada4218 Posts
On May 24 2011 08:06 Egyptian_Head wrote: If people want to smoke, do it where it isn't in a public location such as the examples I listed, I think that is very fair. Quiet self centered there, what about what other people want? | ||
Myles
United States5162 Posts
On May 24 2011 08:04 JudicatorHammurabi wrote: While you do make a point with your question, there is a profound difference between being a serious alcoholic, and consuming alcohol moderately. The latter scenario isn't bad for you NOR for others (unless you're a bit too tipsy and plan on driving). Alcohol isn't physically addictive like nicotine, so it's not like drinking will make you crave it like crazy (of course it can be psychologically addictive but that's a different story). With tobacco, you become physically addicted and it's not easy to get off even when you are in a healthy and happy state of mind. So imo, what BroodjeBaller says still stands, although at the end there he goes to the point of wishing for the complete shutdown and ban of the tobacco industry which I don't agree with. Alcohol is most certainly physically addicting. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_withdrawal_syndrome | ||
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J_D
United States102 Posts
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BroodjeBaller
125 Posts
Alcohol doesnt smell horrible, its not bad for your health(and other peoples health) if you take it in moderation, its not bad for your looks. Ow and the smell of smoking is not something temporary. Its stay in your clothes(untill you wash them), it stay in your car, it stays in your house, its horrible. So no I dont feel the same way about alcohol. | ||
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esla_sol
United States756 Posts
people bashing smoking i dont think get that there are a lot of benefits to smoking. the social aspects of it are great, not to mention how relaxing it can be to take a break from shit for 5 minutes and regroup your mind. helps your focus and reduces your appetite too. the second hand smoking thing is just unwarranted too. nothing is going to happen to you if im smoking 10 feet away outdoors. if you have a personal issue where it does bother you, then move away, it is not a big deal. the litter is a big deal, though, and my guess was the primary reason for the ban. there is really no easy solution around it, except more designated areas with more trash cans. | ||
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BroodjeBaller
125 Posts
On May 24 2011 08:02 Baarn wrote: Only if smokers can smoke 1 cigarette then some org would pay for results in study to keep people buying their product but encourage moderation. Sorry but I hope you are not implying what I think your are implying. That would be fucking stupid. | ||
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Baarn
United States2702 Posts
On May 24 2011 08:17 BroodjeBaller wrote: Alcohol doesnt smell horrible, its not bad for your health(and other peoples health) if you take it in moderation, its not bad for your looks. Ow and the smell of smoking is not something temporary. Its stay in your clothes(untill you wash them), it stay in your car, it stays in your house, its horrible. So no I dont feel the same way about alcohol. This has got to be the most idiotic post I've seen this week. | ||
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Myrkskog
Canada481 Posts
It bugs me as much as anyone else that people throw their butts on the ground(it probably bugs me more), but to say smoking should be banned because people are littering is absolutely ludicrous. | ||
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