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TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
May 23 2011 23:00 GMT
#121
I don't see this changing all that much, its going to have to be the community who changes it, there is just too many smokers to make a ban.
Eve online FC, lover of all competition
Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
May 23 2011 23:01 GMT
#122
On May 24 2011 07:53 Egyptian_Head wrote:
Yes lets ban everything that is slightly annoying to anyone else. Thats surely going to lead to something good.

People over focus on smoking, I really don't see what the big deal is.
It smells like shit bro, makes me cough up. I don't want to inhale smoke for every corner of the street I cross or want to take a stroll in the park or whatever, that's the big deal.
I <3 Plexa.
Deja Thoris
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa646 Posts
May 23 2011 23:01 GMT
#123
On May 24 2011 07:45 TALegion wrote:
I'm finding TL more and more hypocritical every single time a post like this comes out.

So many people are for this because they believe smoking is bad, and no one should do it.
If there's a thread about a limit/ban of video games, TL users are up in arms about human rights and how a government shouldn't get to tell anyone how to live their personal life.


You should look at why TL'rs have the views they do before you call them hypocrites.

Can someone elses gaming negatively affect my health? No

Can someone elses smoking near me negatively affect my health? Yes


See the difference? I have no problem with the government telling people their choices shouldn't negatively impact on me.
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
May 23 2011 23:02 GMT
#124
On May 24 2011 07:59 Fission wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2011 07:57 Egyptian_Head wrote:
On May 24 2011 07:54 BroodjeBaller wrote:
Smoking is the most useless and retarded activity to ever exist.
Its smells horrible, its bad for your health in so many ways, its bad for your looks, its expensive. There are no benefits.
It should be banned everywhere and all cigarette companies should be closed.

You feel the same way about alcohol?


Studies have shown that drinking moderate (read: 1 glass) of red wine a day is actually quite healthy for you

I'm all for banning smoking from parks and beaches, I hate walking through all the cigarette butts in the sand, uhg.


Only if smokers can smoke 1 cigarette then some org would pay for results in study to keep people buying their product but encourage moderation.
There's no S in KT. :P
Lexpar
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
1813 Posts
May 23 2011 23:03 GMT
#125
Thats a little too far I think. Never smoked, never will, but I respect the fact that smokers enjoy smoking, and in parks and beaches this is at most a minor inconvenience to me. Guys beside me is smoking? Alright I can move, I'm outside. These bans are totally out of hand.
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 23:05:10
May 23 2011 23:04 GMT
#126
On May 24 2011 07:57 Egyptian_Head wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2011 07:54 BroodjeBaller wrote:
Smoking is the most useless and retarded activity to ever exist.
Its smells horrible, its bad for your health in so many ways, its bad for your looks, its expensive. There are no benefits.
It should be banned everywhere and all cigarette companies should be closed.

You feel the same way about alcohol?

While you do make a point with your question, there is a profound difference between being a serious alcoholic, and consuming alcohol moderately. The latter scenario isn't bad for you NOR for others (unless you're a bit too tipsy and plan on driving). Alcohol isn't physically addictive like nicotine, so it's not like drinking will make you crave it like crazy (of course it can be psychologically addictive but that's a different story).
With tobacco, you become physically addicted and it's not easy to get off even when you are in a healthy and happy state of mind.

So imo, what BroodjeBaller says still stands, although at the end there he goes to the point of wishing for the complete shutdown and ban of the tobacco industry which I don't agree with.
Krikkitone
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1451 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 23:06:21
May 23 2011 23:05 GMT
#127
Well as long as outdoor=on public property, I'm in favor of it.

and I can defnitely understand in an area as dense as NYC.
Egyptian_Head
Profile Joined October 2010
South Africa508 Posts
May 23 2011 23:05 GMT
#128
On May 24 2011 07:59 Fission wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2011 07:57 Egyptian_Head wrote:
On May 24 2011 07:54 BroodjeBaller wrote:
Smoking is the most useless and retarded activity to ever exist.
Its smells horrible, its bad for your health in so many ways, its bad for your looks, its expensive. There are no benefits.
It should be banned everywhere and all cigarette companies should be closed.

You feel the same way about alcohol?


Studies have shown that drinking moderate (read: 1 glass) of red wine a day is actually quite healthy for you

I'm all for banning smoking from parks and beaches, I hate walking through all the cigarette butts in the sand, uhg.


So you are not apposed to making getting drunk in bars illegal then?
Egyptian_Head
Profile Joined October 2010
South Africa508 Posts
May 23 2011 23:06 GMT
#129
On May 24 2011 08:01 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2011 07:53 Egyptian_Head wrote:
Yes lets ban everything that is slightly annoying to anyone else. Thats surely going to lead to something good.

People over focus on smoking, I really don't see what the big deal is.
It smells like shit bro, makes me cough up. I don't want to inhale smoke for every corner of the street I cross or want to take a stroll in the park or whatever, that's the big deal.


Quiet self centered there, what about what other people want?
Minigun
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
619 Posts
May 23 2011 23:07 GMT
#130
+1 for banning it. Smoke is disgusting, and is just annoying in general. The general population shouldn't have to be forced to smell it/and the dangers it causes just because they need their nicotine
“Quiet people have the loudest minds.” ― Stephen Hawking
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
May 23 2011 23:11 GMT
#131
On May 24 2011 06:10 Blizzard_torments_me wrote:
Kinda ironic really. They let stuff like like gun rights for civilians run free but they ban smoking.


the resultant cancers/respiratory illnesses from cigarettes probably kill and maim alot more people than guns do
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
xOchievax
Profile Joined April 2010
United States69 Posts
May 23 2011 23:12 GMT
#132
When someone decides to smoke in a public place, they are making a poor health decision not only for themselves, but also for those around them. I certainly do not want to take away people's right to smoke in general, but I strongly agree with the banning of smoking in public places.

Some might argue that if we don't like smoke we can just go somewhere else (especially in the case of non-essential areas such as the beach or parks), but I don't believe anyone should have to choose between their health and their activities (unless of course the activities are inherently unhealthy) simply because somebody else decides they want to smoke in public.
Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
May 23 2011 23:12 GMT
#133
On May 24 2011 08:06 Egyptian_Head wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2011 08:01 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
On May 24 2011 07:53 Egyptian_Head wrote:
Yes lets ban everything that is slightly annoying to anyone else. Thats surely going to lead to something good.

People over focus on smoking, I really don't see what the big deal is.
It smells like shit bro, makes me cough up. I don't want to inhale smoke for every corner of the street I cross or want to take a stroll in the park or whatever, that's the big deal.


Quiet self centered there, what about what other people want?
If people want to smoke, do it where it isn't in a public location such as the examples I listed, I think that is very fair.
I <3 Plexa.
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
May 23 2011 23:12 GMT
#134
On May 24 2011 08:04 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2011 07:57 Egyptian_Head wrote:
On May 24 2011 07:54 BroodjeBaller wrote:
Smoking is the most useless and retarded activity to ever exist.
Its smells horrible, its bad for your health in so many ways, its bad for your looks, its expensive. There are no benefits.
It should be banned everywhere and all cigarette companies should be closed.

You feel the same way about alcohol?

While you do make a point with your question, there is a profound difference between being a serious alcoholic, and consuming alcohol moderately. The latter scenario isn't bad for you NOR for others (unless you're a bit too tipsy and plan on driving). Alcohol isn't physically addictive like nicotine, so it's not like drinking will make you crave it like crazy (of course it can be psychologically addictive but that's a different story).
With tobacco, you become physically addicted and it's not easy to get off even when you are in a healthy and happy state of mind.

So imo, what BroodjeBaller says still stands, although at the end there he goes to the point of wishing for the complete shutdown and ban of the tobacco industry which I don't agree with.


Alcohol is most certainly physically addicting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_withdrawal_syndrome
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J_D
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States102 Posts
May 23 2011 23:14 GMT
#135
I think this is a good idea as smoking is unhealthy, and most of all, creates extremely annoying litter. There will definitely still be people smoking in NYC as total enforcement is just about impossible, but I would think it would reduce smoking by around 70-80% which would still be great. I'm glad that it's only a $50 fine though, as making it a large fine or a criminal offense would be ridiculous; at least in this case the very small penalty matches the relatively small annoyance that smoking is compared to some other behaviors.
BroodjeBaller
Profile Joined January 2011
125 Posts
May 23 2011 23:17 GMT
#136
On May 24 2011 07:57 Egyptian_Head wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2011 07:54 BroodjeBaller wrote:
Smoking is the most useless and retarded activity to ever exist.
Its smells horrible, its bad for your health in so many ways, its bad for your looks, its expensive. There are no benefits.
It should be banned everywhere and all cigarette companies should be closed.

You feel the same way about alcohol?

Alcohol doesnt smell horrible, its not bad for your health(and other peoples health) if you take it in moderation, its not bad for your looks.

Ow and the smell of smoking is not something temporary. Its stay in your clothes(untill you wash them), it stay in your car, it stays in your house, its horrible.

So no I dont feel the same way about alcohol.
esla_sol
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States756 Posts
May 23 2011 23:19 GMT
#137
id be fine for smoking bans as long as there were reasonable designated areas to smoke. my college recently banned smoking and its not possible to smoke anywhere on campus, just in the parking lots, which happen to be far away from everything.

people bashing smoking i dont think get that there are a lot of benefits to smoking. the social aspects of it are great, not to mention how relaxing it can be to take a break from shit for 5 minutes and regroup your mind. helps your focus and reduces your appetite too.

the second hand smoking thing is just unwarranted too. nothing is going to happen to you if im smoking 10 feet away outdoors. if you have a personal issue where it does bother you, then move away, it is not a big deal.

the litter is a big deal, though, and my guess was the primary reason for the ban. there is really no easy solution around it, except more designated areas with more trash cans.
BroodjeBaller
Profile Joined January 2011
125 Posts
May 23 2011 23:19 GMT
#138
On May 24 2011 08:02 Baarn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2011 07:59 Fission wrote:
On May 24 2011 07:57 Egyptian_Head wrote:
On May 24 2011 07:54 BroodjeBaller wrote:
Smoking is the most useless and retarded activity to ever exist.
Its smells horrible, its bad for your health in so many ways, its bad for your looks, its expensive. There are no benefits.
It should be banned everywhere and all cigarette companies should be closed.

You feel the same way about alcohol?


Studies have shown that drinking moderate (read: 1 glass) of red wine a day is actually quite healthy for you

I'm all for banning smoking from parks and beaches, I hate walking through all the cigarette butts in the sand, uhg.


Only if smokers can smoke 1 cigarette then some org would pay for results in study to keep people buying their product but encourage moderation.

Sorry but I hope you are not implying what I think your are implying. That would be fucking stupid.
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
May 23 2011 23:19 GMT
#139
On May 24 2011 08:17 BroodjeBaller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2011 07:57 Egyptian_Head wrote:
On May 24 2011 07:54 BroodjeBaller wrote:
Smoking is the most useless and retarded activity to ever exist.
Its smells horrible, its bad for your health in so many ways, its bad for your looks, its expensive. There are no benefits.
It should be banned everywhere and all cigarette companies should be closed.

You feel the same way about alcohol?

Alcohol doesnt smell horrible, its not bad for your health(and other peoples health) if you take it in moderation, its not bad for your looks.

Ow and the smell of smoking is not something temporary. Its stay in your clothes(untill you wash them), it stay in your car, it stays in your house, its horrible.

So no I dont feel the same way about alcohol.


This has got to be the most idiotic post I've seen this week.
There's no S in KT. :P
Myrkskog
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada481 Posts
May 23 2011 23:21 GMT
#140
Litter is a litter issue, not a smoking issue. You don't see anyone pushing to ban chocolate because there is an O'henry wrapper on the street.

It bugs me as much as anyone else that people throw their butts on the ground(it probably bugs me more), but to say smoking should be banned because people are littering is absolutely ludicrous.
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