EPTSmoking Ban in NYC - Page 6
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Sega92
United States467 Posts
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Baarn
United States2702 Posts
On May 24 2011 07:29 Sega92 wrote: tbh this is a little much, people need to be free to do what they want to their bodies, we don't have a law that prohibits alcoholics from drinking, only where they can, if this is passed a lot of people will be really angry but i think its going to work anyways...only time will tell Ummm it's the same thing as alcoholics in this case. | ||
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Ghostcom
Denmark4782 Posts
EDIT: nvm, I wasn't the only one... And forbidding smoking with that much traffic isn't really going to mean anything at all. It is naïve to think that you will be able to spot any effects of this rule in the statistics... | ||
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Uhh Negative
United States1090 Posts
On May 24 2011 07:29 Sega92 wrote: tbh this is a little much, people need to be free to do what they want to their bodies, we don't have a law that prohibits alcoholics from drinking, only where they can, if this is passed a lot of people will be really angry but i think its going to work anyways...only time will tell That's funny because this law only constricts smokers to where they can smoke  They are still free to smoke. | ||
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iNCryo
Norway5 Posts
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Myles
United States5162 Posts
On May 24 2011 07:10 Baarn wrote: You can if it's a private club. Can do whatever you like. As in a place that you have to have a membership for? That's cool and all, but I still don't like that if I own my private business, regardless if I charge people a membership fee, I can't decide if I want to say fuck you to a certain portion of the population. | ||
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TALegion
United States1187 Posts
So many people are for this because they believe smoking is bad, and no one should do it. If there's a thread about a limit/ban of video games, TL users are up in arms about human rights and how a government shouldn't get to tell anyone how to live their personal life. | ||
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mardi
United States1164 Posts
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MozzarellaL
United States822 Posts
On May 24 2011 07:45 TALegion wrote: I'm finding TL more and more hypocritical every single time a post like this comes out. So many people are for this because they believe smoking is bad, and no one should do it. If there's a thread about a limit/ban of video games, TL users are up in arms about human rights and how a government shouldn't get to tell anyone how to live their personal life. because playing video games doesn't harm anyone else. smoking cigarettes in public harms people other than the smoker learn your reasoning you fail | ||
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isM
United States735 Posts
In Arizona a couple years ago we banned smoking indoors everywhere except the Casinos because they aren't "ours." I even voted for the bill and I totally understand it. That said we should be able to smoke outdoors especially in places like parks or our cars if we so choose, just be respectful to others (however when ever the onus falls on the average Joe is it destined to fail). On May 24 2011 07:46 MozzarellaL wrote: because playing video games doesn't harm anyone else. smoking cigarettes in public harms people other than the smoker learn your reasoning you fail Smoking CAN harm others but it doesn't in almost every case, outside of those in prolonged exposure in an area with restricted air flow. Also just off the top of my head no research involved, there is no way walking by a smoker in a public area is any worse than just generally walking around in a densely populated city like NYC. Now shall we play the hypothetical game? For video games using your logic, video games lead to obesity which leads to different health issues and if someone is playing video games to often they don't have a job and by not having a job us tax payers end up footing the bill for their health care, instead of it going to actual people who are deserving. + Show Spoiler + ridiculous isn't it? | ||
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Myles
United States5162 Posts
On May 24 2011 07:45 TALegion wrote: I'm finding TL more and more hypocritical every single time a post like this comes out. So many people are for this because they believe smoking is bad, and no one should do it. If there's a thread about a limit/ban of video games, TL users are up in arms about human rights and how a government shouldn't get to tell anyone how to live their personal life. I find this a bit ironic as well. Though, I will say there a certainly more merits to why smoking is bad than video games are bad. | ||
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acker
United States2958 Posts
I think this is a good bill. I'm pretty sure we have something similar over here, and it's really noticeable. In the good way. | ||
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Dracolich70
Denmark3820 Posts
On May 24 2011 07:21 Hokay wrote: Suggest riding bikes. It is much healthier than sitting in cars. Suggest public transportation. Suggest underground highways. Suggest non-polluting cars, before you jump on the back of a minimal health risk situation for the second hand smoker.You mean necessities like transportation and their by products of pollution/gases that are regulated, that help society and life? Smoking is not a necessity to our society. It is a public health concern, nuisance and environmental problem. Sounds like some good arguments to cut that crap out. The effects of second hand smoke in open air is so minimal, if even noticeable in a lifespan, that it is merely a witch hunt/mass hysteria argument you are supporting. | ||
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Egyptian_Head
South Africa508 Posts
People over focus on smoking, I really don't see what the big deal is. | ||
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ffz
United States490 Posts
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BroodjeBaller
125 Posts
Its smells horrible, its bad for your health in so many ways, its bad for your looks, its expensive. There are no benefits. It should be banned everywhere and all cigarette companies should be closed. | ||
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Egyptian_Head
South Africa508 Posts
On May 24 2011 07:54 BroodjeBaller wrote: Smoking is the most useless and retarded activity to ever exist. Its smells horrible, its bad for your health in so many ways, its bad for your looks, its expensive. There are no benefits. It should be banned everywhere and all cigarette companies should be closed. You feel the same way about alcohol? | ||
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Myles
United States5162 Posts
On May 24 2011 07:54 BroodjeBaller wrote: Smoking is the most useless and retarded activity to ever exist. It should be banned everywhere and all cigarette companies should be closed. Making absolute statements and generalities are the most stupid and retarded activities to ever exist. Overarching statements should be banned everywhere and people who commit them should be prosecuted. /sarcasm Cigarettes are bad for you. Everyone gets that. But there are a lot of stupid and retarded activities out there that have significant health risks and yet aren't banned. | ||
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Hokay
United States738 Posts
On May 24 2011 07:49 Dracolich70 wrote: Suggest riding bikes. It is much healthier than sitting in cars. Suggest public transportation. Suggest underground highways. Suggest non-polluting cars, before you jump on the back of a minimal health risk situation for the second hand smoker. The effects of second hand smoke in open air is so minimal, if even noticeable in a lifespan, that it is merely a witch hunt/mass hysteria argument you are supporting. Support mass hysteria and witch hunts? No. Concern for public environment, and health of others shared in a public area, yes. I and some other posters know how it is to be effected by second hand smoke, indoor or outdoor, so we have to stand up and say "This isn't true." when you have all these people say it is harmless. Well it is it not and there are many studies that say otherwise too. Bringing up bad strawman arguments such as transportation pollution, a byproduct of what moves our society forward and easier, which are heavily regulated and laws revised for even less pollution that are forced upon car manufactures makes no sense to bring up in the first place, because we are actively solving that problem with stricter regulations and the move to more cleaner solutions such as zero emissions (electric cars). | ||
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Fission
Canada1184 Posts
Studies have shown that drinking moderate (read: 1 glass) of red wine a day is actually quite healthy for you  I'm all for banning smoking from parks and beaches, I hate walking through all the cigarette butts in the sand, uhg. | ||
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