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My key philosophy in life: Do whatever the fuck you like as long as it's not harming someone else, with reason and common sense thrown in.
Smoking comes under "doing whatever the fuck you like" but harms other people. Thus I think smoking should be accommodated where possible, but in general should be avoided in public where it's at best annoying and at worst harmful to others.
I'm not anti-smoking really, but the number of times I've seen people with cigarettes in their hands walking past toddlers who come up to about the person's hand height... pretty stupid.
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On May 24 2011 08:34 Hall0wed wrote:
Smokers suck.
They also blow 
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On May 24 2011 08:33 Myrkskog wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 08:29 BroodjeBaller wrote:On May 24 2011 08:24 Myrkskog wrote:On May 24 2011 08:21 chickenhawk wrote:
For people saying that second hand smoke is just the random 10 meters guy, you have never been in a uni study room at exams time... its 2 months of second hand smoking for at least 12 hours a day... not preatty. my uni ban smoking in doors for 3 years.. and god, its so much better to study in doors know. What the hell does university study room have to do with smoking at the fucking beach? Read the article you shit. When its a bit windy on the beach you can smell that disgusting smoking smell atleast 25 meters away. I smell your nasty $6 cologne when you walk by, it stick to my clothes and makes me stink until I wash them. It also aggravates my asthma, triggers my allergies, makes my eyes water, and makes my throat constrict.
But its not cigarettes so no one cares, I honestly have awful allergies to cats but tell crazy cat lady that her cats are annoying or having a negative impact on my health and she will just scoff at you. We tread on a slippery slope.
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Everyone has a vice. When it's your turn to have yours banned, due to the disapproval of "society at large", then you can remember all the times you jumped on the bandwagon wagging your finger at other people for living their lives in a way you personally do not choose to. Smoking outside, disposing of your butts responsibly, doesn't harm people around you especially in a designated area. Power is really fun until it's your turn to get crushed for no reason other than not fitting in with the majority.
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Whats next? No public fornication? No target practice in public parks? God damn it, if we don't have our freedom what DO we have?
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On May 24 2011 08:34 sgtcodfish wrote:My key philosophy in life: Do whatever the fuck you like as long as it's not harming someone else, with reason and common sense thrown in. Smoking comes under "doing whatever the fuck you like" but harms other people. Thus I think smoking should be accommodated where possible, but in general should be avoided in public where it's at best annoying and at worst harmful to others. I'm not anti-smoking really, but the number of times I've seen people with cigarettes in their hands walking past toddlers who come up to about the person's hand height... pretty stupid. Edit: They also blow
smoking doesn't harm other people. You would need to have like 50 people smoking cigarettes all day to produce the same amount of pollution that 1 car produces in like 2 minutes of idling.
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On May 24 2011 08:33 Myrkskog wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 08:29 BroodjeBaller wrote:On May 24 2011 08:24 Myrkskog wrote:On May 24 2011 08:21 chickenhawk wrote:
For people saying that second hand smoke is just the random 10 meters guy, you have never been in a uni study room at exams time... its 2 months of second hand smoking for at least 12 hours a day... not preatty. my uni ban smoking in doors for 3 years.. and god, its so much better to study in doors know. What the hell does university study room have to do with smoking at the fucking beach? Read the article you shit. When its a bit windy on the beach you can smell that disgusting smoking smell atleast 25 meters away. I smell your nasty $6 cologne when you walk by, it stick to my clothes and makes me stink until I wash them. It also aggravates my asthma, triggers my allergies, makes my eyes water, and makes my throat constrict.
But atleast you dont get cancer from my cologne
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On May 24 2011 08:39 BroodjeBaller wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 08:33 Myrkskog wrote:On May 24 2011 08:29 BroodjeBaller wrote:On May 24 2011 08:24 Myrkskog wrote:On May 24 2011 08:21 chickenhawk wrote:
For people saying that second hand smoke is just the random 10 meters guy, you have never been in a uni study room at exams time... its 2 months of second hand smoking for at least 12 hours a day... not preatty. my uni ban smoking in doors for 3 years.. and god, its so much better to study in doors know. What the hell does university study room have to do with smoking at the fucking beach? Read the article you shit. When its a bit windy on the beach you can smell that disgusting smoking smell atleast 25 meters away. I smell your nasty $6 cologne when you walk by, it stick to my clothes and makes me stink until I wash them. It also aggravates my asthma, triggers my allergies, makes my eyes water, and makes my throat constrict. But atleast you dont get cancer from my cologne
You don't get cancer from sitting 10 feet from a smoker on the beach.
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On May 24 2011 08:38 Lexpar wrote:
Whats next? No public fornication? No target practice in public parks? God damn it, if we don't have our freedom what DO we have?
yeah, you dont have the freedom to give yourself cancer and emphysema and heart disease (in some public places) anymore. this is so terrible
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On May 24 2011 08:39 BroodjeBaller wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 08:33 Myrkskog wrote:On May 24 2011 08:29 BroodjeBaller wrote:On May 24 2011 08:24 Myrkskog wrote:On May 24 2011 08:21 chickenhawk wrote:
For people saying that second hand smoke is just the random 10 meters guy, you have never been in a uni study room at exams time... its 2 months of second hand smoking for at least 12 hours a day... not preatty. my uni ban smoking in doors for 3 years.. and god, its so much better to study in doors know. What the hell does university study room have to do with smoking at the fucking beach? Read the article you shit. When its a bit windy on the beach you can smell that disgusting smoking smell atleast 25 meters away. I smell your nasty $6 cologne when you walk by, it stick to my clothes and makes me stink until I wash them. It also aggravates my asthma, triggers my allergies, makes my eyes water, and makes my throat constrict. But atleast you dont get cancer from my cologne
Well I am not a doctor but I doubt that walking by someone smoking outside is a medically significant factor in weather or not you get cancer. Now indoor smoking? I agree it should be regulated, just in a reasonable way.
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On May 24 2011 08:41 Legatus Lanius wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 08:38 Lexpar wrote:
Whats next? No public fornication? No target practice in public parks? God damn it, if we don't have our freedom what DO we have?
yeah, you dont have the freedom to give yourself cancer and emphysema and heart disease (in some public places) anymore. this is so terrible
I'd go so far as to say that the terrorists have won.
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On May 24 2011 08:40 Myrkskog wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 08:39 BroodjeBaller wrote:On May 24 2011 08:33 Myrkskog wrote:On May 24 2011 08:29 BroodjeBaller wrote:On May 24 2011 08:24 Myrkskog wrote:On May 24 2011 08:21 chickenhawk wrote:
For people saying that second hand smoke is just the random 10 meters guy, you have never been in a uni study room at exams time... its 2 months of second hand smoking for at least 12 hours a day... not preatty. my uni ban smoking in doors for 3 years.. and god, its so much better to study in doors know. What the hell does university study room have to do with smoking at the fucking beach? Read the article you shit. When its a bit windy on the beach you can smell that disgusting smoking smell atleast 25 meters away. I smell your nasty $6 cologne when you walk by, it stick to my clothes and makes me stink until I wash them. It also aggravates my asthma, triggers my allergies, makes my eyes water, and makes my throat constrict. But atleast you dont get cancer from my cologne You don't get cancer from sitting 10 feet from a smoker on the beach.
There is a chance that you do, eventhough its minor.
It all adds up when there are smokers everywhere.
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On May 24 2011 08:33 BroodjeBaller wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 08:28 Baarn wrote:On May 24 2011 08:23 BroodjeBaller wrote:On May 24 2011 08:19 Baarn wrote:On May 24 2011 08:17 BroodjeBaller wrote:On May 24 2011 07:57 Egyptian_Head wrote:On May 24 2011 07:54 BroodjeBaller wrote:
Smoking is the most useless and retarded activity to ever exist.
Its smells horrible, its bad for your health in so many ways, its bad for your looks, its expensive. There are no benefits.
It should be banned everywhere and all cigarette companies should be closed. You feel the same way about alcohol? Alcohol doesnt smell horrible, its not bad for your health(and other peoples health) if you take it in moderation, its not bad for your looks. Ow and the smell of smoking is not something temporary. Its stay in your clothes(untill you wash them), it stay in your car, it stays in your house, its horrible. So no I dont feel the same way about alcohol. This has got to be the most idiotic post I've seen this week. Why? Because you are a smoker I guess? Because it's complete bullshit to say alcohol doesn't have an odor. Ever talk to anyone when they are drunk and you are sober? Ever seen the victim of a drunk driver after they can ran over cause someone had a night on the town? Ever had a friend puking their guts out over a toilet bowl and you found that attractive? Your post just fails on so many levels. Learn to read I never said alcohol doesnt have an odor. It doesnt smell as horrible as smoking and the range of the smell is much much smaller. I also said drinking in moderation so dont come with your drunk driver bs. Again learn to read.
Moderation doesn't make anything addicting better for you nor does it make one better to do than the other. Alcohol is still poison. It's still destructive. Just like smoking. So my point still stands regardless of how you word anything.
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On May 24 2011 08:44 Baarn wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 08:33 BroodjeBaller wrote:On May 24 2011 08:28 Baarn wrote:On May 24 2011 08:23 BroodjeBaller wrote:On May 24 2011 08:19 Baarn wrote:On May 24 2011 08:17 BroodjeBaller wrote:On May 24 2011 07:57 Egyptian_Head wrote:On May 24 2011 07:54 BroodjeBaller wrote:
Smoking is the most useless and retarded activity to ever exist.
Its smells horrible, its bad for your health in so many ways, its bad for your looks, its expensive. There are no benefits.
It should be banned everywhere and all cigarette companies should be closed. You feel the same way about alcohol? Alcohol doesnt smell horrible, its not bad for your health(and other peoples health) if you take it in moderation, its not bad for your looks. Ow and the smell of smoking is not something temporary. Its stay in your clothes(untill you wash them), it stay in your car, it stays in your house, its horrible. So no I dont feel the same way about alcohol. This has got to be the most idiotic post I've seen this week. Why? Because you are a smoker I guess? Because it's complete bullshit to say alcohol doesn't have an odor. Ever talk to anyone when they are drunk and you are sober? Ever seen the victim of a drunk driver after they can ran over cause someone had a night on the town? Ever had a friend puking their guts out over a toilet bowl and you found that attractive? Your post just fails on so many levels. Learn to read I never said alcohol doesnt have an odor. It doesnt smell as horrible as smoking and the range of the smell is much much smaller. I also said drinking in moderation so dont come with your drunk driver bs. Again learn to read. Moderation doesn't make anything addicting better for you nor does it make one better to do than the other. Alcohol is still poison. It's still destructive. Just like smoking. So my point still stands regardless of how you word anything.
No alcohol actually has positive effects when you take it in moderation. Smoking is bad even when you take it in moderation.
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On May 24 2011 08:44 BroodjeBaller wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 08:40 Myrkskog wrote:On May 24 2011 08:39 BroodjeBaller wrote:On May 24 2011 08:33 Myrkskog wrote:On May 24 2011 08:29 BroodjeBaller wrote:On May 24 2011 08:24 Myrkskog wrote:On May 24 2011 08:21 chickenhawk wrote:
For people saying that second hand smoke is just the random 10 meters guy, you have never been in a uni study room at exams time... its 2 months of second hand smoking for at least 12 hours a day... not preatty. my uni ban smoking in doors for 3 years.. and god, its so much better to study in doors know. What the hell does university study room have to do with smoking at the fucking beach? Read the article you shit. When its a bit windy on the beach you can smell that disgusting smoking smell atleast 25 meters away. I smell your nasty $6 cologne when you walk by, it stick to my clothes and makes me stink until I wash them. It also aggravates my asthma, triggers my allergies, makes my eyes water, and makes my throat constrict. But atleast you dont get cancer from my cologne You don't get cancer from sitting 10 feet from a smoker on the beach. There is a chance that you do, eventhough its minor. It all adds up when there are smokers everywhere.
lololololol
User was warned for this post
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Am I the only one who thinks this is the church's fault, and maybe we should shift the topic of discussion to religion?
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On May 24 2011 08:41 Legatus Lanius wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 08:38 Lexpar wrote:
Whats next? No public fornication? No target practice in public parks? God damn it, if we don't have our freedom what DO we have?
yeah, you dont have the freedom to give yourself cancer and emphysema and heart disease (in some public places) anymore. this is so terrible
I wonder if you guys would be saying the same if they were banning something harmful that you like. Say...red meat? No more burgers for you. It makes sense after all, they're bad for you. The argument can be replicated ad nauseam: people do a lot of things that are harmful to themselves, but that is not a legitimate reason to ban them.
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On May 24 2011 08:52 alexhard wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 08:41 Legatus Lanius wrote:On May 24 2011 08:38 Lexpar wrote:
Whats next? No public fornication? No target practice in public parks? God damn it, if we don't have our freedom what DO we have?
yeah, you dont have the freedom to give yourself cancer and emphysema and heart disease (in some public places) anymore. this is so terrible I wonder if you guys would be saying the same if they were banning something harmful that you like. Say...red meat? No more burgers for you. It makes sense after all, they're bad for you. The argument can be replicated ad nauseam: people do a lot of things that are harmful to themselves, but that is not a legitimate reason to ban them.
Vegetarian bro. Next.
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Way to be proactive NYC! Even though this will be enforced about as much as the jaywalking bylaws its a step in the right direction.
Second hand smoke is a cause of lung cancer, I don't want to get it because I walk down the street and inhale that crap they blow my way as I pass them.
I believe people have a right to smoke if they want to, but do it in a place it cannot harm others. Its been banned where I live at public places and indoors at restaurants/bars/clubs, and soon to be in the parks and beaches.
Maybe when it gets to the point where smoking is banned everywhere but in your home and everyone that works during the day will be acting like twitchy crack addicts, the smokers will wake up and realize that its not a good thing to do to yourself and muster up the will to attempt to overcome their addiction.
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On May 24 2011 08:52 alexhard wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 08:41 Legatus Lanius wrote:On May 24 2011 08:38 Lexpar wrote:
Whats next? No public fornication? No target practice in public parks? God damn it, if we don't have our freedom what DO we have?
yeah, you dont have the freedom to give yourself cancer and emphysema and heart disease (in some public places) anymore. this is so terrible I wonder if you guys would be saying the same if they were banning something harmful that you like. Say...red meat? No more burgers for you. It makes sense after all, they're bad for you. The argument can be replicated ad nauseam: people do a lot of things that are harmful to themselves, but that is not a legitimate reason to ban them.
A lot of things? Like what?
Burgers are not necessarily bad for you.
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