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Feds cracking down on online poker..? - Page 3
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Thrill
2599 Posts
Bye bye if this turns out to be the real deal. | ||
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nalgene
Canada2153 Posts
On April 16 2011 03:56 where wrote: oh what the fuck is this. The government is that desperate for money that they are trying to steal from online gambling sites? What about those mortgage backed securities, CDOs and those other institutionalized gambling forms? Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, AIG too difficult of targets? Do we really need an online gaming lobby? Online gambling = no taxation for them Those other "targets" are banks and they do investments and pay taxes | ||
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relyt
United States1073 Posts
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On April 16 2011 04:00 Thrill wrote: PokerStrategy.com TSL4? Bye bye if this turns out to be the real deal. poker strategy is not a gambling site, it's a strategy site, big difference. | ||
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indigoawareness
Slovakia273 Posts
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TURKISHRAMBO
Canada148 Posts
On April 16 2011 03:58 jalstar wrote: well -$250 sucks a lot but there are some people with thousands on there, this is huge. is the govt aloud to do this and not give your money back? All i can see is this causing even more unrest and people trying to get their money back using legal action. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17865 Posts
On April 16 2011 04:03 TURKISHRAMBO wrote: is the govt aloud to do this and not give your money back? All i can see is this causing even more unrest and people trying to get their money back using legal action. They probably won't release any money until after the trials, collecting their own share first etc. | ||
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AKspartan
United States126 Posts
On April 16 2011 04:01 relyt wrote: Doesn't the government know how many regular people they just fucked over? Why can't they just leave this shit alone. Because you have to be an evil soul-sucker to throw someone in jail for a victimless crime such as these. They're blind agents of a draconian government enforcing our country's backwards, immoral laws. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On April 16 2011 04:03 TURKISHRAMBO wrote: is the govt aloud to do this and not give your money back? All i can see is this causing even more unrest and people trying to get their money back using legal action. i'm not planning on suing, i can make that back in 2 weeks of min wage part time work but people with $10000+ bankrolls, especially non-US players who weren't breaking their country's laws, are gonna take action for sure. | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On April 16 2011 04:01 jalstar wrote: poker strategy is not a gambling site, it's a strategy site, big difference. Poker strategy makes money with the rake of gambling sites so if those sites are closed well they can't make money anymore. | ||
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D_K_night
Canada615 Posts
need to read further on this but if tax evasion was involved but this is extremely serious and could put a huge damper on online poker period. | ||
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where
144 Posts
On April 16 2011 04:01 nalgene wrote: Online gambling = no taxation for them Those other "targets" are banks and they do investments and pay taxes haha yes let's invest in CEO compensation and drug cartels and systemic inefficiency, because it is more profitable to the owners to keep it running as is | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On April 16 2011 04:05 Boblion wrote: Poker strategy makes money with the rake of gambling sites so if those sites are closed well they can't make money anymore. i think non-us sites like party and ipoker are still open though. | ||
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Modafinil
United States35 Posts
On April 16 2011 04:03 TURKISHRAMBO wrote: is the govt aloud to do this and not give your money back? All i can see is this causing even more unrest and people trying to get their money back using legal action. It's not "your money". It is money that was sitting in the bank account of an entity engaged in a criminal enterprise. The money has been seized as part of a federal criminal investigation. Trying to get your money through legal action against the US government here would be like trying to get your money back from your local drug dealer after he was arrested. Your money is gone. You have a 0% chance of ever getting it back. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On April 16 2011 04:06 Modafinil wrote: It's not "your money". It is money that was sitting in the bank account of an entity engaged in a criminal enterprise. The money has been seized as part of a federal criminal investigation. Trying to get your money through legal action against the US government here would be like trying to get your money back from your local drug dealer after he was arrested. Your money is gone. You have a 0% chance of ever getting it back. if you buy drugs you're breaking the law. non-us players weren't breaking any laws by playing on stars and full-tilt. like if you invest in a bank (legal) and the bank doesn't pay their taxes (illegal) should you lose your money? | ||
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D_K_night
Canada615 Posts
On April 16 2011 04:00 Thrill wrote: PokerStrategy.com TSL4? Bye bye if this turns out to be the real deal. Well it will just come down to finding a different sponsor if pokerstrategy pulls out as a result of the current events. Of course finding sponsors is challenging to say the least but if I was the sales rep charging with finding sponsors for this event, I would approach companies who have sponsored players in the past, eg. Stride gum for example. | ||
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zTz
United States476 Posts
On April 16 2011 04:05 jalstar wrote: ...but people with $10000+ bankrolls, especially non-US players who weren't breaking their country's laws, are gonna take action for sure. wait.... is online gambling a crime? I thought that the sites were getting shut down for laundering, fraud, and other crimes, not because of "gambling." | ||
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KiLL_ORdeR
United States1518 Posts
this article just popped up on reuters less than 10 minutes ago says that federal prosecuters charged Full Tilt, Absolite, and Pokerstars for fraud and violation of US anti-online gambling laws. I'm posting this from my phone, but this article is so vague and wrong that it is not even funny. For those of you who want to learn why these sites don't technically break any laws, you should really google it and read up. | ||
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