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What would happen if you fought your clone?

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Xanbatou
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States805 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-10 06:30:20
April 09 2011 21:25 GMT
#1
So I was recently having a discussion with one of my friends. It started off as what you would do if you were in a small room with a clone with no artifacts except for one light source in the very center of the room. We started talking about fighting your clone and then we started arguing about how the fight would play out:

Since you are perfect clones of each other (i.e. same physical and mental attributes), you would have the same exact thought processes. My friend argued that the fight would be somewhat dynamic and, although you would have the same fighting style, you would be doing different moves at different times and therefore you would be reacting differently.

I argued that, since you have the same thought processes, you would both choose to not only open the fight with the same exact move, but you would also open the fight at the same exact time. You would then both see the same move and respond in exactly the same way and you would end up mirroring each others moves.

I thought this was an interesting question and I was wondering what TL would think.

EDIT: To be more specific, the room in question is a perfectly symmetric room in every aspect. In fact, to make it even more symmetric, maybe instead of a single light source at the center of the room, the entire ceiling actually emits some low level light. Basically, the room is designed so that two people in the room will experience the same exact stimuli.

EDIT2: By clone, I don't mean the modern conventional definition. I just mean some entity that is exactly the same as you are both mentally and physically. Also, this clone is created the instant you enter the room, so it has all your memories up until that point.
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
April 09 2011 21:29 GMT
#2
I'd rather play my clone in sc
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
Marradron
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands1586 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-09 21:29:56
April 09 2011 21:29 GMT
#3
I think we would both understand there's no need to fight eachother and team up for 2v2 sc2
-KarmA
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States353 Posts
April 09 2011 21:29 GMT
#4
"Perfectly symmetrical violence never solved anything" - Prof Farnsworth

I honestly think if it was an exact clone you would be thinking the exact same thing at the same time. leading to you doing the exact same moves
eduh
Profile Joined August 2010
Portugal63 Posts
April 09 2011 21:30 GMT
#5
there is a certain randomness to your decision making process, so you wouldnt be mimicking each other.
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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
April 09 2011 21:30 GMT
#6
I'd win.
TheWarbler
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1659 Posts
April 09 2011 21:31 GMT
#7
I think me and my clone would fight until we say 5min break then re-continue.
if you can believe you can concieve
Chriamon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States886 Posts
April 09 2011 21:31 GMT
#8
I think it would just be a huge stalemate. Like, I would probably wait for him to make the first move, and he would do the same thing. However, I think you are wrong, and you would not mirror each other's moves. Basically, as soon as one of you does something he didnt intend to do (i.e slips up, trips, or something), then the fight is now completely dynamic like your friend said./ However, arguably that wouldnt happen, because in that case you would both trip/slip, but I still think that the mind could make different decisions even if it is a clone of the other mind.
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
April 09 2011 21:32 GMT
#9
On April 10 2011 06:30 eduh wrote:
there is a certain randomness to your decision making process, so you wouldnt be mimicking each other.


i disagree, why would there be randomness? when faced with the same situation and the same stimuli, i'd make the same decision every time
i'd go with the OP - identical mirroring
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
April 09 2011 21:32 GMT
#10
I argued that, since you have the same thought processes, you would both choose to not only open the fight with the same exact move, but you would also open the fight at the same exact time. You would then both see the same move and respond in exactly the same way and you would end up mirroring each others moves.

yeah I agree with that. I don't really know what else to say; it would be a stalemate.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Dalguno
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2446 Posts
April 09 2011 21:34 GMT
#11
On April 10 2011 06:30 iNcontroL wrote:
I'd win.


You, sir, do win.
"I'm gonna keep making drones cause I'm a baller, and ballers make drones." -Snute
shinosai
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1577 Posts
April 09 2011 21:34 GMT
#12
I'd argue that something as simple as being on the opposite side of the room might make you do slightly different moves. And all it takes is one different move to create a chain reaction of different moves.
Be versatile, know when to retreat, and carry a big gun.
Kashll
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1117 Posts
April 09 2011 21:34 GMT
#13
There's no way you would do the exact same move, you guys are absurd.

You both would be in different environments. I.E. one person would be in one place in the room, and the other would be in a different place. This change in environment alone will spawn different reactions, and eventually lead to different moves and a dynamic fight.
"After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music." - Aldous Huxley
aokces
Profile Joined October 2006
United States309 Posts
April 09 2011 21:35 GMT
#14
Every time you punch, you end up hitting your clone's fist. Ow.
Reaper9
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1724 Posts
April 09 2011 21:36 GMT
#15
I'd pause, stare at my clone, who is staring back, and ask "what are we fighting for?" We'd then both shrug, and then go brew some tea and play video games and argue who takes out the trash next week.
I post only when my brain works.
Marradron
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands1586 Posts
April 09 2011 21:37 GMT
#16
I don't think decision are 100 procent deterministic, it still shows chaotic behavior. Meaning the slightest breeze in the air can change the outcome of the thought drasticly. So since you can't occupy the same space at the same time your thought will be a bit different. Thus not leading to a mirror.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-09 21:37:35
April 09 2011 21:37 GMT
#17
Bang my head to the wall. Both of us won't be geting some serious brain damage at the same time, not possible.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
April 09 2011 21:37 GMT
#18
Is this a discussion about how Protoss mirror matches play out?
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
April 09 2011 21:39 GMT
#19
On April 10 2011 06:37 Ropid wrote:
Is this a discussion about how Protoss mirror matches play out?

No, actually, it's not.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-09 21:43:12
April 09 2011 21:42 GMT
#20
This thread reminds me of the conversation on The Ricky Gervais Show

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
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