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SCFraser
Profile Joined May 2003
Canada1534 Posts
November 30 2004 01:54 GMT
#1
Hey guys,
I'm just sittin here at work resenting the fact that I have to be here today.. and thinkin about how I'm probably gonna have to spend a large part of my life i this exact circumstance... sittin at a desk in front of a computer.
My job isnt important.. it doesnt change anyone's lives it just makes my boss money.. what a great reason to get outta bet in the morning. I wanna be out tryin new things and meetin new ppl!!
I gotta find some way outta this, its ok for now but im not doing it my whole life.
What do u guys think, u ever feel like this?
I want something good to die for, to make it beautiful to live.
T_T
Profile Joined December 2003
Vatican City State593 Posts
November 30 2004 02:00 GMT
#2
no and now get me a coffee, please.
SCFraser
Profile Joined May 2003
Canada1534 Posts
November 30 2004 02:02 GMT
#3
The only person i get coffee for is myself.
I want something good to die for, to make it beautiful to live.
subtle
Profile Joined August 2004
United States187 Posts
November 30 2004 02:02 GMT
#4
What's keeping you there?
religion is the opient of the masses - n00bsaibot
SW)RIF
Profile Joined December 2003
United States563 Posts
November 30 2004 02:09 GMT
#5
If history has taught us anything, ambition and drive go a long way. I have neither so i choose contentment instead

Seriously though, learn 20 languages, become a consultant for a huge company, travel/meet new people/and try new things when your abroad. All you have to do is spent hours upon hours learning langauges for the rest of your life =D
SCFraser
Profile Joined May 2003
Canada1534 Posts
November 30 2004 02:12 GMT
#6
Its a co-op job
which means i got it through school and its kinda part of me gettin my degree (in business)
Its an 8 month workterm so i'm outta here in april..
the office environment isnt that bad relative to other places ive worked..
theres just no purpose to it.. so i dont have much motivation
but like i said before its ok for now, just dont wanna spend my lifetime like this.

on a side note its kinda funny the way our economy is organized,
the world is easily rich enough to feed clothe and house everyone, and ppl dont really need to work so much, but everything is always centered around economic growth, and not people's happiness. Wheres our national happiness minister??
I want something good to die for, to make it beautiful to live.
SCFraser
Profile Joined May 2003
Canada1534 Posts
November 30 2004 02:14 GMT
#7
On November 30 2004 11:09 SW)RIF wrote:
If history has taught us anything, ambition and drive go a long way. I have neither so i choose contentment instead

Seriously though, learn 20 languages, become a consultant for a huge company, travel/meet new people/and try new things when your abroad. All you have to do is spent hours upon hours learning langauges for the rest of your life =D

ya that would probably be pretty cool i'd love to travel alot especially while im still young.
i was thinkin after i graduate mebbe ill go build schools in a third world country or somehting along those lines. for a year or so anyway.
I want something good to die for, to make it beautiful to live.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28700 Posts
November 30 2004 02:26 GMT
#8
hm
yeah
I am currently working in a job where I don't really do much worthwhile, basically in norway we have this mandatory army thing which sucks, however you can easily get out of it through claiming you're a pacifist. however then you're forced to do some kind of other work instead.

and then I applied for a job at my former highschool, a place which I absolutely looooooooooooved, so now I'm working there as an "assistant"
so far I've spent most of my time in a library browsing and reading comic books, eventually I will swap those with real books (reading is something I intend on doing a lot of this year)

so I mean, I'm having a good time. the students are quite a lot of fun, and the teachers are cooler than at any other school in the UNIVERSE. but it's not really "worthwhile", nor challenging.
not to mention that I absolutely fucking hate oh my god jesus christ it sucks so hard ghdfafhasbfgvuyasbgvdfsugbds WAKING UP
WHY DOES WORK START BEFORE NOON? WHAT
KIND
OF
FUCKING RETARD
DECIDED THAT WORK SHOULD START AT 8:30?
EIGHT THIRTY AM

and thats not even considered early
so I wonder what the fuck kind of job I'm going to have which will allow me to go to bed at 8:30 instead, like I'm supposed to.

so yeah
I'm overall having a good time. but not doing anything at all was better, even though most people I talk to felt that not doing anything became boring after a couple of months, I'm not like that at all.


might be related to summer/winter too though. the trondheimian summer is perfect. never dark, going out and playing football at 2-4 am
not TOO hot, but walking around in shorts is comfortable, and occasionally it gets quite warm.
etc
its soo good.
however winter is the complete opposite.

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SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
November 30 2004 02:33 GMT
#9
Man, I don't care what you're doing, it's better than 8-7 washing car windows, and vacuuming them. My job sucks so much. Thank GOD I got it down to two weekdays. I need a different job. TT; (It's at an oil change place, if anyone was really curious)
I'm never gonna know you now \ But I'm gonna love you anyhow.
Mora
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada5235 Posts
November 30 2004 02:36 GMT
#10
eri have i mentioned lately u are beautiful?

on the inside AND out ~!11
Happiness only real when shared.
SCFraser
Profile Joined May 2003
Canada1534 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-11-30 02:48:33
November 30 2004 02:39 GMT
#11
wow u guys have 24 hr sun??
crazy..
ya i feel the same way, its just getting dark enough here that i go to work just as its getting light and leave just after it gets dark. DEPRESSING
and ya not working doesnt necessarily mean ur not doing anything.. it just means ur free to do what u want

If i could only work maybe 5 or 6 hours a day so id have time for other things than work/gym/sleep/eat then it be alot less frustrating
I want something good to die for, to make it beautiful to live.
SCFraser
Profile Joined May 2003
Canada1534 Posts
November 30 2004 02:47 GMT
#12
On November 30 2004 11:33 SickofLife wrote:
Man, I don't care what you're doing, it's better than 8-7 washing car windows, and vacuuming them. My job sucks so much. Thank GOD I got it down to two weekdays. I need a different job. TT; (It's at an oil change place, if anyone was really curious)

oh buddy i know ive got it pretty good in relative terms.
I used to work at a factory that made conveying systems (kinda ironic, and no we didnt use conveyer belts to make them)
anyway they put me in the back on a metal grinder for 2 straight weeks!! i didnt move all day, i just stood in 1 spot, grabbed a piece of metal from a pile on my right, smoothed out the edges and put it in a pile on my left.
then the price of metal went up and i got laid off :D!!
I want something good to die for, to make it beautiful to live.
shizuru
Profile Joined October 2004
Japan570 Posts
November 30 2004 02:47 GMT
#13
do something you love. meaning, do something you wouldn't mind doing as the dominant thing in your life. if it's slacking off and having fun or working hard at something, you'll know if you're happy or not. so my advice: quit that job and try something else. you only live once.
SCFraser
Profile Joined May 2003
Canada1534 Posts
November 30 2004 02:49 GMT
#14
On November 30 2004 11:47 shizuru wrote:
do something you love. meaning, do something you wouldn't mind doing as the dominant thing in your life. if it's slacking off and having fun or working hard at something, you'll know if you're happy or not. so my advice: quit that job and try something else. you only live once.

what do u do?
I want something good to die for, to make it beautiful to live.
SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-11-30 03:05:53
November 30 2004 03:05 GMT
#15
On November 30 2004 11:49 SCFraser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2004 11:47 shizuru wrote:
do something you love. meaning, do something you wouldn't mind doing as the dominant thing in your life. if it's slacking off and having fun or working hard at something, you'll know if you're happy or not. so my advice: quit that job and try something else. you only live once.

what do u do?


He's a bum who's probably never had a job, and doesn't know that work is never enjoyable, because it's work. You don't have to hate it, but you'll never enjoy it. Once you have to do something every day for eight hours straight, you aren't having fun with it anymore, because you can't just stop, and do something else, you have to keep doing your job, because that's what gets you money. Even games get boring when you're forced to play them. Never take up a hobby as a full-time job, that'd be my advice. (This is directed at no one in particular)
I'm never gonna know you now \ But I'm gonna love you anyhow.
Eatme
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
Switzerland3919 Posts
November 30 2004 03:07 GMT
#16
7-4 at an industry is far worse. Just find something that makes your earned money and free time worth it.
I have the best fucking lawyers in the country including the man they call the Malmis.
imRadu
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
1798 Posts
November 30 2004 03:17 GMT
#17
smile guys :D tomorrow could be worse
you could be living in another country *cough*cough*cough

Its really good to see that some people dont let education get in the way of their ignorance
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36379 Posts
November 30 2004 03:44 GMT
#18
that's really the problem with the business track... you make lots of money and are secure, but really it's quite boring and you're locked into the same job for quite some time. i know lots of my friends in finance intend to work in banks for a little (for money) then later go to grad school and either become lawyers or professors. that usually works out well.

frankly, i think most people with econ and finance majors at my school are immediately working 9-5's with relatively low happiness and low movement. i had a choice between business undergrad and liberal arts, and trust me right now i'm gearing up for law school, because there's almost no shot for me to get a good job with only a liberal arts degree. your situation isn't as bad as you think--searching job listings and doing temp jobs is worse.

if you're willing to take a huge pay cut you could quit and go for something you like. that's a big risk though, if i was in your situation i probably wouldn't have the balls to do it.
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expostfacto
Profile Joined December 2002
United States365 Posts
November 30 2004 03:48 GMT
#19
On November 30 2004 12:05 SickofLife wrote:
He's a bum who's probably never had a job, and doesn't know that work is never enjoyable, because it's work. You don't have to hate it, but you'll never enjoy it. Once you have to do something every day for eight hours straight, you aren't having fun with it anymore, because you can't just stop, and do something else, you have to keep doing your job, because that's what gets you money. Even games get boring when you're forced to play them. Never take up a hobby as a full-time job, that'd be my advice. (This is directed at no one in particular)


That's flat-out wrong.

If you become a lawyer instead of an artist just because it pays better, yeah, your life will suck. But it'll be your own fault; just because the economic system places higher value on some jobs than others doesn't mean you can't pick one that pays less well anyway in exchange for actually enjoying what you do. A lot of teachers do this.

In a lot of ways, taking the high-paying job over the one you'd genuinely enjoy is the coward's way.
http://www.carnageblender.com -- over 100 million battles served
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9627 Posts
November 30 2004 03:52 GMT
#20
if i could be sitting in front of a computer at work, i wouldnt be bitching. well thats because i love computers. but then again if i could get paid while posting on TLNet, then i sure as hell wouldnt be complaining
analogkensho
Profile Joined June 2003
United States358 Posts
November 30 2004 03:55 GMT
#21
On November 30 2004 12:05 SickofLife wrote:
He's a bum who's probably never had a job, and doesn't know that work is never enjoyable, because it's work. You don't have to hate it, but you'll never enjoy it. Once you have to do something every day for eight hours straight, you aren't having fun with it anymore, because you can't just stop, and do something else, you have to keep doing your job, because that's what gets you money. Even games get boring when you're forced to play them. Never take up a hobby as a full-time job, that'd be my advice. (This is directed at no one in particular)


If you really think this way I feel very sorry for you.

I've been writing/drawing comic books seriously (at a pro-am level, I self publish with friends and distribute at conventions until I (hopefully) can break into the industry) for 5-6 years now, countless hours drawing, painting, designing, writing, publishing, etc. There's really no feeling in life like finishing that project hours before (or just after ) deadline, sleep deprivation kicking your ass after drawing for 20 hours a day, when you dream about how to lay out the next page at night because you're consumed by the desire to get the highest level of quality into your work. For now I also work a desk job to pay the bills, sure, but I spend an awful lot of time drawing even here... =_=

Of course art isn't a hobby for me, it's just something I need to do *all the time*. When I was playing WoW, which is a hobby, 10 hours a day (trying to get as high a level as possible during OB) I would get sick of it in ways I never get sick of art. I may get the occasional nervous breakdown from stress, sure, but that's just part of the fun of it ^_^

I don't believe this is something limited to art either. Music, writing, running a small business, athletics, science, computer programming, game design, coaching, teaching, cooking, there are so many opportunities to make a living for yourself besides being a cog in a big business' money making machine. Try lots of different stuff until you find something that clicks and feels right, something that challenges you and is rewarding, something you don't necessarily enjoy 24 hours a day, but that you love doing none the less. My friend who went to school at the art institute of Boston for a semester said the average incoming freshman there was like 27 - these are people who had worked other jobs for many years before deciding to pursue a more meaningful career, just because the councelors at school make it seem like you need to know what you're doing for the rest of your life by age 18, doesn't mean it's true...

To me one of the most depressing things I see in the world today is the number of people who just accept mediocrity and never strive for anything really great for themselves. To be fair not everyone is capable or will be happy doing that (I have many friends who are just more happy in a mediocre job trying to make money and collect nice things), but if going home at the end of the day and watching TV on your new 35 inch plasma screen isn't enough to balance out having to be a zombie from 9-5, then maybe it's time to look for another way of living...
RoTaNiMoD
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States558 Posts
November 30 2004 04:04 GMT
#22
I feel kinda what you feel but in a slightly different way. It is not a job or work that would mind-numbingly bore me, but just a completely standard life and standard stupid people. It's my first semester at college and I already can't stand it, I don't know what work would be like.

I'm dropping out to live a life that I won't regret living. If I can't cut it, I tried.
8882
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
2718 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-12-01 05:23:00
November 30 2004 04:06 GMT
#23
On November 30 2004 11:09 SW)RIF wrote:
If history has taught us anything, ambition and drive go a long way. I have neither so i choose contentment instead

Seriously though, learn 20 languages, become a consultant for a huge company, travel/meet new people/and try new things when your abroad. All you have to do is spent hours upon hours learning langauges for the rest of your life =D


HALP, I need a pen-friend from Germany. And one from Austria too, because my teacher likes to give us words like cauliflower in austrian(?)dialect which cant be found in any of the online dictionaries I know o_o

btw. is bulgarian/finnish/norwegian hard to learn? only few people know these languages, so I could try learning one of them.
I have returned
SurG
Profile Joined June 2003
Russian Federation798 Posts
November 30 2004 04:12 GMT
#24
No 9-5 for me. I work from noon to 11 pm =)
expostfacto
Profile Joined December 2002
United States365 Posts
November 30 2004 04:15 GMT
#25
On November 30 2004 12:55 analogkensho wrote:
To me one of the most depressing things I see in the world today is the number of people who just accept mediocrity and never strive for anything really great for themselves. To be fair not everyone is capable or will be happy doing that (I have many friends who are just more happy in a mediocre job trying to make money and collect nice things), but if going home at the end of the day and watching TV on your new 35 inch plasma screen isn't enough to balance out having to be a zombie from 9-5, then maybe it's time to look for another way of living...


Exactly.
http://www.carnageblender.com -- over 100 million battles served
shizuru
Profile Joined October 2004
Japan570 Posts
November 30 2004 04:22 GMT
#26
On November 30 2004 12:05 SickofLife wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2004 11:49 SCFraser wrote:
On November 30 2004 11:47 shizuru wrote:
do something you love. meaning, do something you wouldn't mind doing as the dominant thing in your life. if it's slacking off and having fun or working hard at something, you'll know if you're happy or not. so my advice: quit that job and try something else. you only live once.

what do u do?


He's a bum who's probably never had a job, and doesn't know that work is never enjoyable, because it's work. You don't have to hate it, but you'll never enjoy it. Once you have to do something every day for eight hours straight, you aren't having fun with it anymore, because you can't just stop, and do something else, you have to keep doing your job, because that's what gets you money. Even games get boring when you're forced to play them. Never take up a hobby as a full-time job, that'd be my advice. (This is directed at no one in particular)


how about letting me respond before you start making half-assed assumptions, hmm? well, my work experience boils down as this: many many weekends helping out at my parent's store when i was in elementary and junior high; campus book store for a semester; starbucks for 3 years; worked as a p.a. for an independent film for a month, and other volunteer, nonvolunteer stuff in between i don't feel like recalling right now.

i've been doing IT during the past two year's breaks, not quite 8 hrs, but 5-6 hrs a day. or does that disqualify me in your eyes? i'm about to get out of college and am looking to go into film. i assure you, i'll be doing something i love in there and it's prrobably going to mean years of starving but whatever. i've i've gone without eating before. i'd say what it is i do but then i'd jinx it. and of course i cant do ONLY that all my life, i have other hobbies that keep me from going insane although they keep changing. tennis...reading...starcraft...movies...etc etc my advice: pick the hobby you love most and go with it. or you can be like sickoflife. would you really want advice from someone with a nick like that anyway?
TigG
Profile Joined December 2003
Spain369 Posts
November 30 2004 04:35 GMT
#27
Come to Spain, we have lots of sun . Right now is probably the darkest stage of the gear. The sun rises at 7:40~8 am and falls at 5~5:30 pm, so it's quite good.
My english sucks, so feel free to teach me (wrong grammar, spelling errors, wrong way to express something...)
SCFraser
Profile Joined May 2003
Canada1534 Posts
November 30 2004 04:43 GMT
#28
On November 30 2004 13:22 shizuru wrote:

how about letting me respond before you start making half-assed assumptions, hmm? well, my work experience boils down as this: many many weekends helping out at my parent's store when i was in elementary and junior high; campus book store for a semester; starbucks for 3 years; worked as a p.a. for an independent film for a month, and other volunteer, nonvolunteer stuff in between i don't feel like recalling right now.

i've been doing IT during the past two year's breaks, not quite 8 hrs, but 5-6 hrs a day. or does that disqualify me in your eyes? i'm about to get out of college and am looking to go into film. i assure you, i'll be doing something i love in there and it's prrobably going to mean years of starving but whatever. i've i've gone without eating before. i'd say what it is i do but then i'd jinx it. and of course i cant do ONLY that all my life, i have other hobbies that keep me from going insane although they keep changing. tennis...reading...starcraft...movies...etc etc my advice: pick the hobby you love most and go with it. or you can be like sickoflife. would you really want advice from someone with a nick like that anyway?


Film huh.. thats pretty cool. Film is probably my favorite art form.. so easy to express so much with film.

I've always been good with strategy.. logic things like that.. so I wanna try running my own business one day. That might be something i could love
Either that or something where i could help people.. or maybe make the world better somehow
(Prime Minister of Canada??) lol..

TigG I was in Spain last summer for a few days.. Barcelona is a sweet city.. except for the pickpockets!!
Other than that though I had an awesome time there, one of my fav places in europe.
btw u have really REALLY agressive prostitutes!!
I want something good to die for, to make it beautiful to live.
pighoe
Profile Joined November 2004
Sweden105 Posts
November 30 2004 05:14 GMT
#29
On November 30 2004 11:26 Liquid`Drone wrote:
hm
yeah
I am currently working in a job where I don't really do much worthwhile, basically in norway we have this mandatory army thing which sucks, however you can easily get out of it through claiming you're a pacifist. however then you're forced to do some kind of other work instead.

and then I applied for a job at my former highschool, a place which I absolutely looooooooooooved, so now I'm working there as an "assistant"
so far I've spent most of my time in a library browsing and reading comic books, eventually I will swap those with real books (reading is something I intend on doing a lot of this year)

so I mean, I'm having a good time. the students are quite a lot of fun, and the teachers are cooler than at any other school in the UNIVERSE. but it's not really "worthwhile", nor challenging.
not to mention that I absolutely fucking hate oh my god jesus christ it sucks so hard ghdfafhasbfgvuyasbgvdfsugbds WAKING UP
WHY DOES WORK START BEFORE NOON? WHAT
KIND
OF
FUCKING RETARD
DECIDED THAT WORK SHOULD START AT 8:30?
EIGHT THIRTY AM

and thats not even considered early
so I wonder what the fuck kind of job I'm going to have which will allow me to go to bed at 8:30 instead, like I'm supposed to.

so yeah
I'm overall having a good time. but not doing anything at all was better, even though most people I talk to felt that not doing anything became boring after a couple of months, I'm not like that at all.


might be related to summer/winter too though. the trondheimian summer is perfect. never dark, going out and playing football at 2-4 am
not TOO hot, but walking around in shorts is comfortable, and occasionally it gets quite warm.
etc
its soo good.
however winter is the complete opposite.



When I had a summerjob I started 6.00am which means that I go up 5.00am that is fucking insane
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
November 30 2004 05:42 GMT
#30
this thread is why i play poker
SCFraser
Profile Joined May 2003
Canada1534 Posts
November 30 2004 05:51 GMT
#31
I tried that and im down like 2 large.. which is like 25 days in this chair...
I think i need to start playin higher stakes..
I want something good to die for, to make it beautiful to live.
DevAzTaYtA
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Oman2005 Posts
November 30 2004 05:51 GMT
#32
On November 30 2004 13:06 8882 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2004 11:09 SW)RIF wrote:
If history has taught us anything, ambition and drive go a long way. I have neither so i choose contentment instead

Seriously though, learn 20 languages, become a consultant for a huge company, travel/meet new people/and try new things when your abroad. All you have to do is spent hours upon hours learning langauges for the rest of your life =D


HALP, I need a pen-friend from Germany. And one from Austria too, because my teacher likes to give us words like cauliflower in austrian(?) which cant be found in any of the online dictionaries I know o_o

btw. is bulgarian/finnish/norwegian hard to learn? only few people know these languages, so I could try learning one of them.


that must be hard since there's no such language as austrian
Mark
Profile Joined April 2004
United States77 Posts
November 30 2004 05:56 GMT
#33
Analogkensho, do you have a website with your art on it? I love comic book art and would be interested in seeing your work.

As for the topic at hand. I agree, I was going to be a computer science major, but couldn't stand the thought of writing code for the rest of my life (even though I enjoy it). So I went into music instead. Not much money in it, but it's my calling. Money != happiness.
GogUMagog
Profile Joined April 2003
United States90 Posts
November 30 2004 06:19 GMT
#34
On November 30 2004 14:51 SCFraser wrote:
I tried that and im down like 2 large.. which is like 25 days in this chair...
I think i need to start playin higher stakes..


Umm...am I the only one who thinks that if someone can't beat the stakes they play, they probably shouldn't play HIGHER stakes?

Anyways, I am a management consultant, which I admit for many people is "selling out to the man" because they only take the job for the salary, but for me it is actually pretty much my dream job. I get to travel (South Africa and Australia so far) on the company dime, work with bright, interesting people, and am always learning so many new things about each business I work with that I am never bored. Of course, the salary doesn't hurt either. I was thinking of going straight to law school, but decided that I needed to work first to see what the "real world" was like. Best decision I ever made. Definitely not going back to law school now. I think that whatever you do, be it comic books, film making, consulting, or investment banking, loving what you do is definitely the most important thing. As has been said before in this thread, the quality of your life when you are old and looking back on it will almost certainly be most affected by how happy you were, and that happiness is much more likely to come from personal satisfaction than from a plasma TV. Although, for the record, watching DVDs on my plasma TV is great.
baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10541 Posts
November 30 2004 06:24 GMT
#35
NEVER work in something you dont like, you will feel unsatisfied for the rest of your life, choose something you like, even if the salary is lower, you wont regret it.
Im back, in pog form!
SCFraser
Profile Joined May 2003
Canada1534 Posts
November 30 2004 06:40 GMT
#36
On November 30 2004 15:19 GogUMagog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2004 14:51 SCFraser wrote:
I tried that and im down like 2 large.. which is like 25 days in this chair...
I think i need to start playin higher stakes..


Umm...am I the only one who thinks that if someone can't beat the stakes they play, they probably shouldn't play HIGHER stakes?

Anyways, I am a management consultant, which I admit for many people is "selling out to the man" because they only take the job for the salary, but for me it is actually pretty much my dream job. I get to travel (South Africa and Australia so far) on the company dime, work with bright, interesting people, and am always learning so many new things about each business I work with that I am never bored. Of course, the salary doesn't hurt either. I was thinking of going straight to law school, but decided that I needed to work first to see what the "real world" was like. Best decision I ever made. Definitely not going back to law school now. I think that whatever you do, be it comic books, film making, consulting, or investment banking, loving what you do is definitely the most important thing. As has been said before in this thread, the quality of your life when you are old and looking back on it will almost certainly be most affected by how happy you were, and that happiness is much more likely to come from personal satisfaction than from a plasma TV. Although, for the record, watching DVDs on my plasma TV is great.


How did u get into management consulting?
What company do u work for, and what does a management consultant do on an average day?

As for the poker thing i say that because low stakes poker is actually really hard to play in that I cant read my opponents cause they could be making a good play or it could be retarded. You never know what people are gonna be in on.. if I start playing 50 dollar tournies instead of 5 10 dollar tournies maybe ill be able to get more of a read.
I want something good to die for, to make it beautiful to live.
RoTaNiMoD
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States558 Posts
November 30 2004 06:49 GMT
#37
As for the poker thing i say that because low stakes poker is actually really hard to play in that I cant read my opponents cause they could be making a good play or it could be retarded. You never know what people are gonna be in on.. if I start playing 50 dollar tournies instead of 5 10 dollar tournies maybe ill be able to get more of a read.


Low stakes poker it is hard to make fancy plays or get a read on your opponent. It is very easy to be quite profitable (relative to stakes) by playing ABC poker, betting huge with big hands and avoiding marginal situations where your opponent may be bluffing, just plain stupid, or have something big himself.

I remember when I thought high stakes poker would have to be "easier" cuz you can read people better and such. Though it is true you CAN put people on a hand more accurately, higher stakes poker overall is by no means easier than low stakes.

This is off topic though, very few people can avoid the 9-5 by gambling. I think I might be able to, and I'm sure as hell gonna try, but I know if I can't through poker I will find some other way. I would despise being in the situation you are in, but I know most people can handle it. I wouldn't be able to, so I'm finding alternatives.
analogkensho
Profile Joined June 2003
United States358 Posts
November 30 2004 06:51 GMT
#38
On November 30 2004 14:56 Mark wrote:
Analogkensho, do you have a website with your art on it? I love comic book art and would be interested in seeing your work.


I'm working on a site now, I'll be making a thread on it when it's done. Lots of things to do, not lots of time, you know the drill. =_=

And regarding the fellow who works in big biz and mentioned it being 'selling out' - I think that's great that you found something you enjoy. I think there's just as much meaning and importance to working a job in business as there is in making art or music or whatever. Meaning in life is created by us from what we have to work with, there's no rule about what you have to do to be happy and passionate about your work.

Best of luck to everyone I guess - it's a long-term process I think, I was lucky enough to stumble into something I loved early on, but I needed a lot of people to push me along to really follow through on it... it's tough.

SCFraser
Profile Joined May 2003
Canada1534 Posts
November 30 2004 07:08 GMT
#39
On November 30 2004 15:49 RoTaNiMoD wrote:
Show nested quote +
As for the poker thing i say that because low stakes poker is actually really hard to play in that I cant read my opponents cause they could be making a good play or it could be retarded. You never know what people are gonna be in on.. if I start playing 50 dollar tournies instead of 5 10 dollar tournies maybe ill be able to get more of a read.


Low stakes poker it is hard to make fancy plays or get a read on your opponent. It is very easy to be quite profitable (relative to stakes) by playing ABC poker, betting huge with big hands and avoiding marginal situations where your opponent may be bluffing, just plain stupid, or have something big himself.

I remember when I thought high stakes poker would have to be "easier" cuz you can read people better and such. Though it is true you CAN put people on a hand more accurately, higher stakes poker overall is by no means easier than low stakes.

This is off topic though, very few people can avoid the 9-5 by gambling. I think I might be able to, and I'm sure as hell gonna try, but I know if I can't through poker I will find some other way. I would despise being in the situation you are in, but I know most people can handle it. I wouldn't be able to, so I'm finding alternatives.


Ya i dont think there is as much bluffing from most players in low stakes (intentional anyway)
for example I was playin the other day 8 person table i get delt Ace nine so i make moderate preflop raise in a good position. Guy after me goes all in so i fold it, someone in the blinds called with a pocket pair, so i got to see that the guy had A2d.. hits the ace and wins.
Just stupid shit like that kills me. Maybe i'm not patient enough to play tight enough i dunno.
I want something good to die for, to make it beautiful to live.
GogUMagog
Profile Joined April 2003
United States90 Posts
November 30 2004 08:19 GMT
#40
On November 30 2004 15:40 SCFraser wrote:
How did u get into management consulting?
What company do u work for, and what does a management consultant do on an average day?

As for the poker thing i say that because low stakes poker is actually really hard to play in that I cant read my opponents cause they could be making a good play or it could be retarded. You never know what people are gonna be in on.. if I start playing 50 dollar tournies instead of 5 10 dollar tournies maybe ill be able to get more of a read.


I got into consulting straight out of school, but I tried a lot of other things first during the summers. It was basically a progression. I had thought I wanted to be a lawyer for a long time. So, one summer I worked at a law firm as a paralegal. It was fun and somewhat interesting, but being a lawyer seemed like too much paper work for my taste. Then I heard about consulting and it seemed interesting. So, I was talking to a friend one day and he offered me a job at his IT consulting firm. I worked there one summer and enjoyed the work, but I liked the consulting more than the IT. Seeing as how I have been interested in business for a while (I studied economics in school) I figured that management consulting would be perfect. So the next summer I applied for internships at management consulting firms and took a job at a small management consulting firm which only works in the financial services sector called Oliver, Wyman & Company (I minored in finance, so this was a perfect fit.) I loved the internship, so I took a full time job there (it has since been bought by Mercer and is now called Mercer Oliver Wyman.)

What do we do on an average day? Damned if I know what an 'average' day is. Basically, firms hire us to answer questions. The thing that makes it interesting is that those questions can be basically anything. Should we open branches in Mexico? Who should we lend to? Should we sell this division? Should we buy this company? How do we compare to other banks/insurance companies/etc? Yada yada yada. Every project is quite different, which is what makes it cool.

As for the poker: I have made about 1.5K over the past month playing $25 NL tables at UB. I would have made twice that if I hadn't been a retard and strayed from ABC poker. Just never bluff and assume no one is bluffing and you will make money. Now, of course, I will have to mix it up because everyone reading this will now bluff me on UB.
SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
December 01 2004 08:14 GMT
#41
First of all, my screen name is a song title. I didn't make it up, and I'm not SickofLife; this is the name most people know me by, so I keep it this way.

Secondly, most of the post was a joke. The first part especially. The second part... most people don't get lucky enough to get a job they love, and their job will suck for the rest of their life. Some people are lucky enough to do something they really enjoy doing, but it's not the norm, it's the minority of people who get to do things like that. Although saying all jobs will always suck is not completely true, there is a lot of truth in it.

My best example would be Roy Jones Jr. The man loves boxing, but he's older now, and he really has to work to be a top boxer. When he was younger, he was just naturally that good, that no one could touch him. Now that he has to really work hard at it, boxing is not so much fun to him, and he's really sucking ass now. (Which is due partly to other things, but a major factor is that he isn't having fun, because it became work) Not all jobs suck, true, but most people get bored with them after some time-- especially when the work becomes tough.
I'm never gonna know you now \ But I'm gonna love you anyhow.
Zerius[TPR]
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada1633 Posts
December 01 2004 08:37 GMT
#42
Watch American Beauty, Fight Club, and finally, Office Space, and see how your feelings are afterwards.
where from you, circus?
rplant
Profile Joined May 2003
United States1178 Posts
December 01 2004 18:11 GMT
#43
The prospect of spending such a large percentage of my waking life doing something meaningless for money so I can eat makes me feel a little sick. I don't think I'll ever bother. I don't know how I'll stay alive, maybe I'll just leech off my parents for the rest of forever which will hopefully be shorter than it seems like it will be right now.
Believing in God is like believing in a teapot orbiting Mars (Edit: wow I was a douche in 2003)
SW)RIF
Profile Joined December 2003
United States563 Posts
December 02 2004 04:20 GMT
#44
I was watching none other than the History Channel which had a string of shows devoted to the idolized cowboys and trappers of the midwest United States. From each show they would recall passges from these mens private diaries, where nearly every one of them claimed to be happiest when they were isolated in the wilderness hunting and living off the land.

Point being, I dont think many people find a niche in todays society that appeases them, merely because there seems to be an innate belonging to the wild. Hence why people camp, hunt, hike... So.. yea. Time to take up the solitary life in the woods.
SCFraser
Profile Joined May 2003
Canada1534 Posts
December 02 2004 04:28 GMT
#45
Imagine a world where that was a normal thing to do..
say 30% of people go life in the woods after they finish school

what do u think would happen when these woods ppl crossed paths.. ?
i bet weird tribes would form, or gangs whatever u wanna call it.
then others who werent part of a tribe would have to form/join one to protect themselves..
lord of the flies style
aside from that it'd be pretty sweet though
I want something good to die for, to make it beautiful to live.
niklasTHEfro
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden419 Posts
December 02 2004 05:42 GMT
#46
you know what i want to do? i want do design cars, i want to be a football player, i want to be a musician
i know i will never be a football player, im to old. i was good when i was young(er), but for some reason, i quit.... oooh i regret so much
so, im hoping i can do one of these other things, i dont want a fucking office job where you sit in front of a computer all day long, it seems so boring
didn't know why i wrote this, just felt like it i guess
SCFraser
Profile Joined May 2003
Canada1534 Posts
December 02 2004 06:00 GMT
#47
On December 02 2004 14:42 niklasTHEfro wrote:
you know what i want to do? i want do design cars, i want to be a football player, i want to be a musician
i know i will never be a football player, im to old. i was good when i was young(er), but for some reason, i quit.... oooh i regret so much
so, im hoping i can do one of these other things, i dont want a fucking office job where you sit in front of a computer all day long, it seems so boring
didn't know why i wrote this, just felt like it i guess

Same reason i started this thread
heads up though, if you end up designing cars you'll probably spend alot of time in front of a comp.
I want something good to die for, to make it beautiful to live.
niklasTHEfro
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden419 Posts
December 03 2004 04:24 GMT
#48
perhaps, it wont suck though cause it will be fun
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