On April 11 2011 17:20 Bentron wrote: I skipped through this thread a bit but does anyone get hurt or die in their dreams?
Depends on the individual. If you don't expect to get hurt in your dreams, you won't. Your dreams are shaped by what you subconsciously believe. Depending on how strong the dream is, I can feel a great deal of pain. When the dreams are weak/vague I'm invincible, if they're strong I get hurt, and if I go lucid I'm invincible again.
A week or so ago I dreamed I was going down some stairway, and someone pushed me out the window. I fell 3 stories and broke both my legs on the sidewalk. It hurt like hell (not as much as it would IRL, but bad enough), and I didn't wake up until 30 or so seconds later when i realized the people coming down the sidewalk were going to kill me.
I'm glad I seem to always be able to wake up when I want to, that dream wasn't going to get any better.
I've been trying to lucid dream but I can't seem to do it. When I'm dreaming I'm just so out of it that I can't recognize if I'm dreaming even if the weirdest shit happens. It never occurs to me to say "wait a minute, is this a dream?"
I'm somehow always aware of it when I'm dreaming (or I can't remember the ones I'm not, which is probably true). I can wake up if I don't like the dream or change things in it. Kinda have my own dreamland so to speak. Also sometimes I succeed in continuing a dream I liked that was interrupted externally. I hope I never lose the ability, tons of fun
I have both sleep paralysis and exploding head syndrome, i thought the aliens had got in contact with me. Its pretty amazing.
I dont think its too far fetched to think that every persons dream world is connected to some sort of etheral real or something. Could be the same of psychadelic realms.
if you ask me i'd say stop it right now. My friend once started having these kinds of lucid dreams about which he was kinda satisfied. But then it turned out it was the first few sympthoms of a thing called sleep paralysis. My friend would wake up at random times during the night and have no control over his body. His mind was awake and realizing what was happening, but not a muscle in his body obeyed to him. Luckily my friend was "cured" relatively fast and easy but there are cases of further developed sleep paralyzation where people actually start hallucinating when they are in this paralyzed state (like seeing someone in your room who might even touch you and you cant do a damn thing about it.)
Maybe your having different problems etc but this is what it can develop into, and i dont think you want that.
edit: oh sorry didnt read that it was already aptly explained.
I often dream of writing in my dream journal several times in one night, then get really annoyed when I wake up for real and find that I haven't actually written anything.
On April 11 2011 19:50 B.I.G. wrote: if you ask me i'd say stop it right now. My friend once started having these kinds of lucid dreams about which he was kinda satisfied. But then it turned out it was the first few sympthoms of a thing called sleep paralysis. My friend would wake up at random times during the night and have no control over his body. His mind was awake and realizing what was happening, but not a muscle in his body obeyed to him. Luckily my friend was "cured" relatively fast and easy but there are cases of further developed sleep paralyzation where people actually start hallucinating when they are in this paralyzed state (like seeing someone in your room who might even touch you and you cant do a damn thing about it.)
Maybe your having different problems etc but this is what it can develop into, and i dont think you want that.
edit: oh sorry didnt read that it was already aptly explained.
AHHH I've had these hallucinations while under sleep paralysis it's fucking freaky and I never know if I'm too scared to move or I just can't! I always end up seeing black figures of a body and I feel like they're touching me (WHY DO THEY TOUCH ME?) or I feel their movement just like the time I thought my little cousin came in my room but then I realized he wasn't at my house and I just felt my bed moving.
Oh I don't do lucid dreams at all but I this still happens to me =( and if I had a number I'd say it's happened to me about 8 times or so.
I have this kind of dreams, where i realize that i am dreaming and i am able to decide what to do, but i can't do whatever the hell i want. It is strange, because one would think that if i know i am dreaming i should be able to change things into whatever i want, but i still can't.
Many times i have had a dream where i try to run away from something/someone, but i can't run at all, i am running basically in a slow-motion. At the moment i realize it is a dream, i just decide to wake up and i do immidiately wake up. Maybe if my first thought wasn't to wake up, i would be able to change the dream - achieve lucid dreaming.
I also had the experience that i woke up during a dream and if i manage to fall back asleep quickly, i recall the dream and continue it which is pretty cool when it happens.
Sometimes i get the dream within a dream experience too. Basically i wake up from a dream into my normal life, but some things just don' fit and i am having another dream starting at that moment.
I don't think i've ever experienced sleep paralysis, i might have had a few EHS - but i don't rememeber it, as i just found out that something like that exists.
Wow, I've never heard of the concept of lucid dreaming even though i had one while being a child. I was in a nightmare where I couldn't move freely, as if there was a huge resistance on all my body and there were foes. I was so scared that I took conscious of my dream. And was like : "why the fuck I'm moving like this ? then I ran at sonic-the-hedgehog speed and shotted lasers like megaman, that felt great. I still remember it very strongly even though it was like 16 years ago.
I'm gonna follow the wiki guide to lucid dreaming starting today, I'll keep you in touch I'm very motivated and I'm not scared of going insane or head exploding, so that might accelerate the processus.
On April 11 2011 20:30 Ricjames wrote: I have this kind of dreams, where i realize that i am dreaming and i am able to decide what to do, but i can't do whatever the hell i want. It is strange, because one would think that if i know i am dreaming i should be able to change things into whatever i want, but i still can't.
I think it works much better if you don't know that you're dreaming, but instead just suspect that you're dreaming and have this powerful, weird feeling that the universe is "on your side" and everything will work out the way you want it to. If you instantly try to imagine yourself in a different place as soon as you're lucid then everything falls apart quickly and I usually have a false awakening. But I can set off looking for something with the expectation of finding it behind the next door or corner, and it won't be long before it shows up.
when I was a kid I would always have very vivid dreams. One of the ones that sticks out the most was when I was around 6-7. In my dream I was chasing after this mad scientist who had created these genetically mutaed dog wolf hybrids that he could control by speaking to them. He sends these dogs chasing after me and I am running from them. I run to my room get on my top bunk under the covers. I lay still and then hear these pack of dogs jump through the big window in my room. I try to control my breathing so they don't hear me but I hear one clombing up to my bunk @ the foot of my bed. I then feel this very strong sensation on the back of my ankle, like something is bitting me. I immediately wake up and there is nothing in my room but I have a very strong pain sensation on my ankle. I try to ignore and go back to sleep. The next day I wake up and there is a mark on my ankle on the back, not very big and it hurts for a few days. I was a little weirded out to say the least, I even asked my lil bro if he bit me....also I made it a point to make sure my parents didn't see it.
If you're serious about lucid dreaming, dreamviews.com is bar none the best repository of information on the topic, and the forums are very active to boot. The best advice I can give to you is be very patient, be diligent about keeping a dream journal, even if you can only recall hazy fragments.
I tried giving this a go last night, and I remember 3 dreams really clear, and they all seemed to be lucid and I used my better judgement in all of them to do what I want, but I had trouble trying to figure out if it was a dream or not. There was 3 times (I do not remember what happened in these) but there was crazy shit happening and I was able to deduce that it was in fact a dream (nose pinching, mirror test) and as soon as I realized that, I would wake up with no memory of the dream. The three times that I do remember, nothing out of the ordinary ever happened and I had no memory of what I was thinking before I fell asleep and did not check if it was a dream or not. This will get better with practice I assume?
Cool thing was, I went to sleep repeating "I will wake up after every dream" and this did in fact happen, even after I tried WILD after I went to sleep again and didn't say anything at all.
How long did it take you to learn hwo to lucid dream??
I remember all my dreams now in an amazing amount of detail... to the point when I can remember direct quotes and if I close my eyes its like I'm there... I have listened to Theta Binaural Beats before going to bed. I really want to be able to Lucid Dream... have I no spent enough time its been a month since I started trying
On April 11 2011 19:50 B.I.G. wrote: if you ask me i'd say stop it right now. My friend once started having these kinds of lucid dreams about which he was kinda satisfied. But then it turned out it was the first few sympthoms of a thing called sleep paralysis. My friend would wake up at random times during the night and have no control over his body. His mind was awake and realizing what was happening, but not a muscle in his body obeyed to him. Luckily my friend was "cured" relatively fast and easy but there are cases of further developed sleep paralyzation where people actually start hallucinating when they are in this paralyzed state (like seeing someone in your room who might even touch you and you cant do a damn thing about it.)
Maybe your having different problems etc but this is what it can develop into, and i dont think you want that.
edit: oh sorry didnt read that it was already aptly explained.
I highly doubt you get sleep paralysis from lucid dreams. The moment i learned how to lucid dream I never had any sleep paralysis anymore.
Teamliquid loves its dreams threads, every few months there's a new thread about the same old stuff.
Rehashed topics: Cool dreams, Lucid dreaming, Sleep Paralysis, but Exploding Head Syndrome is a new one.
Anyone who wants to learn more about sleep paralysis watch this video, it is pretty indepth. Since sleep paralysis is such a common thing, it's almost 'normal'.
On April 11 2011 17:20 Bentron wrote: I skipped through this thread a bit but does anyone get hurt or die in their dreams?
Depends on the individual. If you don't expect to get hurt in your dreams, you won't. Your dreams are shaped by what you subconsciously believe. Depending on how strong the dream is, I can feel a great deal of pain. When the dreams are weak/vague I'm invincible, if they're strong I get hurt, and if I go lucid I'm invincible again.
A week or so ago I dreamed I was going down some stairway, and someone pushed me out the window. I fell 3 stories and broke both my legs on the sidewalk. It hurt like hell (not as much as it would IRL, but bad enough), and I didn't wake up until 30 or so seconds later when i realized the people coming down the sidewalk were going to kill me.
I'm glad I seem to always be able to wake up when I want to, that dream wasn't going to get any better.
I get hurt all the time. I remember some so vividly. Like this one time out of no where, a great white shark popped out of the water and his jaws tore me in half. I woke up in a pool of sweat and sprung myself out of the bed. Other than the whole getting ripped in half bit, it was pretty frigging ridiculous. :/
The worst is when you cannot wake yourself up from the dream or you hop into another one. I can totally relate to all the shit they did in Inception, lol.
White noise helps me have lucid dreams, whenever I play rainymood.com on my laptop before I fall asleep, I am usually able to control my dreams and they will have an ending when I see fit. Then I usually awaken after that, sometimes at a reasonable hour, sometimes only getting like 4 hours of sleep...
EPT
