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Brazil1546 Posts
On March 18 2011 12:34 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Doesn't Brazil have the only Carrier in South America... Making it pretty much the powerhouse of South America? It's more than 50 years old and only operates ground attack aircraft (A-4 Skyhawks) that are even older. If we are to be considered a powerhouse would be because of numbers and size, but those can't be brought abroad. | ||
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BeJe77
United States377 Posts
Support Libya, now will they support Bahrain....and who ever rises up next. | ||
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Nightfall.589
Canada766 Posts
On March 18 2011 13:53 BeJe77 wrote: Well this will be interesting, the U.N. has basically just opened up a whole can of worms. Support Libya, now will they support Bahrain....and who ever rises up next. The US will likely veto any such action. | ||
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BeJe77
United States377 Posts
On March 18 2011 13:54 Nightfall.589 wrote: The US will likely veto any such action. Don't think they will involve themselves into any of the conflicts | ||
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Kaneh
Canada737 Posts
There is no can of worms, just regular dirty politics. Bahrain is unimportant in the grand scheme of things because... it actually doesn't matter to any of the major powers. Rather keep the Saudis happier with you then to support Bahrain for absolutely no gain. | ||
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Too_MuchZerg
Finland2818 Posts
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Robstickle
Great Britain406 Posts
On March 18 2011 11:05 Nightfall.589 wrote: I'm afraid that people are bitching about the hypocrisy of propping up friendly repressive regimes, and condemning hostile repressive regimes. Frankly I'd rather the UN did some good sometimes for the wrong reasons and was generally a hypocrite than if they never did any good at all. A truly altruistic UN is never going to happen. | ||
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zalz
Netherlands3704 Posts
On March 18 2011 14:05 Kaneh wrote: Libya is... a major supplier of oil to Europe. part of the reason Italy is very much for this, even opening airfields for UN use, and why there is so little resistance to UN intervention. dictator or not, no-one really cared until the country destabilized. There is no can of worms, just regular dirty politics. Bahrain is unimportant in the grand scheme of things because... it actually doesn't matter to any of the major powers. Rather keep the Saudis happier with you then to support Bahrain for absolutely no gain. Oke so because Libya is crucial to EU oil (not really but at 1.7 million barrels per day let's go with it) they support a no-fly zone wich brings the country to a stalemate and prevents a dictator that is eager to sell them oil from winning. Not only do they bring the country to a stalemate but they also decide to give a big middlefinger to the dictator of this country, rather then doing nothing, letting him win, ending the uprising, continueing the supply of oil. I mean honestly, start thinking about it. There is no way in hell that this is about oil... | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
Poland offers logistical support, rules out military role in Libya: http://goo.gl/qBRQH Norway will also join the international military action in Libya, http://goo.gl/2XE9I Seems there was an attempt by some Gaddafi loyalists to create mischief in Benghazi last night, but they were stopped. #Libya Once again for whoever missed it: Demonstrations in Tripoli, Azawiya, and Zwara; but esp. in Tripoli, after the UN vote. #Libya | ||
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SpiffD
Denmark1264 Posts
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Grettin
42383 Posts
E: So Finnish media is not alone.. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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SwiftSpear
Canada355 Posts
On March 18 2011 17:29 SpiffD wrote: According to Danish newspaper Politiken, the French government has announced that the attack on Libya will commence in a few hours. And the surrender 24 hours later  (sorry, I had to) | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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dafunk
France521 Posts
For : France, UK, Lebanon, USA, South Africa, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Colombia, Portugal, Nigeria, Gabon Didn't vote : China, Russia, Brazil, Germany and India The intervention will be led by UK, USA and France with the help of Danemark (parliamentary vote still going on), Canada and Norway (plus some arab countries like Qatar, United Arab Emirates, Egypt and some help from Poland). Like expected China and Russia arnt supporting it (and surprisingly Germany). Starting in a few hours. | ||
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Mofisto
United Kingdom585 Posts
On March 18 2011 18:08 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: So basically the Rebels have to hold for at least 48 hrs before the UK and U.S. will be ready but no word on when the French will start which could begin in a few hours... Denmark still has to wait for Parliamentary decisions. Uk papers are saying that bombing should commence in the next few hours. I still think we've left it too late though. I hope I'm wrong. On another note, the moment it came to my notice that Libya was a major supply of oil I knew this was going to happen Good job regurgitating the whole oil nonsense mate. Im not going to derail the thread to explain it to you, but the oil debate was laid to rest years ago, except with the most ardent anti-americans. | ||
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dafunk
France521 Posts
If Khadafi take control of Libya again, European countries would be obliged to take some actions like an embargo (because of peoples opinion), that would have affected our oil importations and prices. Therefore we have to prevent Khadafi from doing it by attacking or at least force him to negociate. It's just "realpolitik" with some sort of "moral" to back up our actions. We have to not be naive about these kind of operations. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Pika Chu
Romania2510 Posts
Please, next time you see terrorist attacks in europe don't fucking ask yourselves why. This is why. Everyone is going to yell, omg innocent people dieing, you think the war on libya won't kill innocents? If you do think so you're out of your minds. Sad day for the world, just as sad as the day we turned Iraq into a mess. | ||
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Ghad
Norway2551 Posts
On March 18 2011 17:35 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Heavy shelling in Misurata by Gaddafi forces. Oh no they DIDN'T! User was warned for this post Edit: Sorry bout that, what I was going at is that it is surprising to see the regime actually doing offensive acts of that magnitude today when they know what the reaction is going to be. Artillery pieces and tanks are prime targets for air power. | ||
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