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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 05 2011 07:08 GMT
#361
Gaddafi tanks now shelling all buildings around Martyrs Square in Azawiya with civilian residents still inside. #Libya


New report from Azawiya: Six #Gaddafi tanks destroyed and all of its crew killed except for one captured. #Libya


Many #Gaddafi snipers in Azawiya now. #Libya


All mosques in Azawiya are calling citizens to arms. #Libya
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 05 2011 07:18 GMT
#362
This is the time when TL needs an Arabic translator to translate Al-Jazeera Arabic.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 05 2011 07:23 GMT
#363
Gadafi troops are executing the injured.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
March 05 2011 07:40 GMT
#364
Is there any word on who is winning? Rebels or Kadaffi?
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 05 2011 07:41 GMT
#365
Gadafi troops have broken through the defenses but the is still fierce fighting going on.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
March 05 2011 07:55 GMT
#366
On March 05 2011 10:59 acker wrote:
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On March 05 2011 10:57 slyboogie wrote:
When a leader uses a foreign force to suppress his own people I think that even supporters will get a little uncomfortable, especially seeing the exploding nationalism in the region. Gaddafi didn't have much of a choice but to utilize these mercenaries but Libyans will remember this, even if the current revolution is quelled.


If this current rebellion is quelled, there will be a massacre, and Gaddafi will be long dead before there's another one. The people fighting against Gaddafi now had better win.


I am ridiculous to have not even considered this. Still, that would devolve be a classic "crime against humanity", yes? The terrible social scientist in me is curious to see this course of events in this global world...sorry if that is awful.

The news of soldiers executing the injured is frightening but I suppose that this is the price of establishing a free society against a tyrant? It sounds noble but...ick.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 05 2011 08:01 GMT
#367
Report coming in is that Gadafi has failed to take Azawiya!
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 05 2011 08:07 GMT
#368
Live call on Aljazeera from Azawiya: We are expecting another wave of attacks but we are on alert. #Libya


Live call on Aljazeera from Azawiya: Two tanks have been destroyed this morning and we managed to destroyed another one. #Libya


Live call on Aljazeera from Azawiya: #Gaddafi troops have pulled back to their original positions just outside the city. #Libya
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-05 09:27:12
March 05 2011 09:03 GMT
#369
Security forces came into the city with armored vehicles and trucks with anti-aircraft weapons and cheap military trucks and cars, a few were knocked out and remain in the square where the main battle took place. Security forces prevented medical teams from getting injured out those who tried were shot anti-gadafi fighters pushed them out.

Hospitals are packed with wounded and dead.

Rumor has it now that security forces are gathering outside the city again to try and take the square again, eye witness is saying, eyewitness is a doctor, says there are at least ten thousand protesters gathering in the square and other areas ready to fight.

Pictures from multiple sources of the fighting around Libya:

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Pika Chu
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Romania2510 Posts
March 05 2011 12:00 GMT
#370
This internal fight for power may last for a couple of months. The only outcome will be that Libya will be quite destroyed, no matter who win.
They first ignore you. After they laugh at you. Next they will fight you. In the end you will win.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 05 2011 18:11 GMT
#371

Gaddafi's forces encircled Az Zawiyah on Saturday, manning checkpoints about 3km from the centre after fighters pushed them back in fierce fighting earlier in the day.

Troops later mounted a second attack on the town, which lies just 50km west of the capital Tripoli, but were again pushed back.

More than 30 people were killed and as many as 200 people were said to have been wounded in the fighting that drove government forces out of the town.

Youssef Shagan, a spokesman for the fighters in the town, said that Gaddafi's forces had entered Az Zawiyah at 6am (04:00 GMT) with hundreds of soldier, along with tanks and armoured vehicles.

Gaddafi's forces had broken through defences into Martyrs' Square, in the heart of the town, but hours later were pushed back.

"Our people fought back ... We have won for now and civilians are gathering in the square," Shagan said.



Elsewhere, following heavy fighting on Friday, anti-government forces were said to be in control of Ras Lanuf, a pipeline hub on the Mediterranean coast that houses a major refinery and petrochemical complex, according to reports form the AFP news agency.

The nearby town of Bin Jawad was also under anti-government control on Saturday, sources told Al Jazeera.

In Benghazi, Libya's second city which is in the hands of anti-government forces, the self-declared opposition national council, held their first meeting on Saturday.

"The national council's first formal meeting is starting this morning," Mustafa Gheriani, a spokesman for group, said.

The 30-member body is headed by Mustafa Abdel Jalil, a former justice minister who defected from Gaddafi's camp after protests against the Libyan leader's rule erupted two weeks ago. The meeting was held in secret.

"It's a safety issue," Gheriani said. "This guy [Gadaffi] still assassinates people."


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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 05 2011 18:48 GMT
#372
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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
HellRoxYa
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1614 Posts
March 05 2011 18:51 GMT
#373
Didn't think they'd make that much progress I have to admit.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 05 2011 22:32 GMT
#374
Gadafi forces for the second time have failed to take Azawiya.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
March 05 2011 22:42 GMT
#375
Thanks for the updates. Things are really intense. Hang in there, Azawiya!
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absalom86
Profile Joined April 2010
Iceland1770 Posts
March 05 2011 22:46 GMT
#376
Insane. Hopefully the people of Libya will soon be free of the tyrant without too much bloodshed ( If Gaddafi can help it he will kill everyone though ).
Thief @ #teamliquid @ Quakenet
CrimsonLotus
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Colombia1123 Posts
March 05 2011 23:05 GMT
#377
This is so interesting from a military stand point, a superior traditional army with artillery and air support being repelled by a militia with hardly any training or equipment, but with superior numbers.

I understand the reasons why the west doesn't want to get involved, but still you can't help to wish some cavalry would come to help this brave people.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-06 00:18:42
March 06 2011 00:17 GMT
#378
Some of the Rebels are ex army members.

Also a report says that 6000 have died as of four days ago
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
March 06 2011 00:24 GMT
#379
On March 06 2011 08:05 CrimsonLotus wrote:
This is so interesting from a military stand point, a superior traditional army with artillery and air support being repelled by a militia with hardly any training or equipment, but with superior numbers.

I understand the reasons why the west doesn't want to get involved, but still you can't help to wish some cavalry would come to help this brave people.


Can you even start to comprehend the effects of a western intervention?

The best thing we can do right now, is to pray that the will of the people of Libya is seen through despite the odds.

Furthermore, and more importantly, be ready to help rebuild the country when the fighting is over.

We will never gain any sympathy in the middle east if we keep fiddling with their affairs..
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
Wombatsavior
Profile Joined November 2009
United States107 Posts
March 06 2011 00:34 GMT
#380
I love stealth blue so much for his efforts, I friggin' love the constant status updates (in multiple threads nonetheless.) I am a man that loves information and knowing what is happening on a very detailed level, and although I have many sites to go to, some I won't even mention for harassment sake, These updates are a godsend. Keep up the good work, you are deeply appreciated man!
The more simple you become, the easier the Truth is to see.
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