I am curious who the maker of the check of $500 million will be, but certainly it is clear that the recipient is [Abdel] Jalil,” he said. “You know, this is a guy who only two weeks ago has been linked to the murder of his own general and then a purge of his council, so he ends up in control of among other things the finance ministry of the National Transitional Council.”
Debar says that Libyan sovereign funds are now going to be handed over to a person who “you can’t really characterize as anything at this point but an attempted coupster
I am curious who the maker of the check of $500 million will be, but certainly it is clear that the recipient is [Abdel] Jalil,” he said. “You know, this is a guy who only two weeks ago has been linked to the murder of his own general and then a purge of his council, so he ends up in control of among other things the finance ministry of the National Transitional Council.”
Debar says that Libyan sovereign funds are now going to be handed over to a person who “you can’t really characterize as anything at this point but an attempted coupster
NATO bombs are targeting Muammar Gaddafi's bunker in his hometown in Libya, despite claims the coalition is not involved in helping rebels hunt the colonel down.
Earlier Libyan rebels said they had sent Special Forces to hunt down Gaddafi, whose loyalists are still fighting in Tripoli. They also tried to reach Sirte, Gaddafi's hometown, but met with fierce resistance.
Unconfirmed reports claim NATO planes bombarded Sirte overnight. Meanwhile, the UN has urged all sides in the Libyan conflict to avoid acts of violence and revenge.
On August 26 2011 04:29 RvB wrote: now they're talking about sending his frozen assets back to the council in Benghazi.
"The council?"
The "National Transitional Council" represents a faction of the people doing the fighting which is a small fraction of the libyan people. They are a faction of a fraction. The west is pretty much annointing them for power by promising them billions of dollars in frozen assets and in return the NTC is promising favorable contracts to the multinationals associated with countries that spent the cash bombing the gaddafi regime. Don't assume that "the council" are in any way representatives of the Lybian people.
Does noone engage in critical thinking anymore? Do we just repeat what we overhear on T.V. while we munch on cheerios?
Because I said all that... I do realize they don't represent all the people of Lybia at the moment since most of the council is actually from Eastern Lybia and a lot of people in the council used to be Gadaffi loyalists. But whether you like it or not there is just no alternative at the moment and they are the closest chance there is to democracy for the people there. Also foreign multinationals in your country doesn't have to be a bad thing as long as they generate a lot of jobs and are willing to invest in the country but it's all speculation for now and how the new Lybian government will handle everything it they will have a tough road ahead but it's possible!
The AP news agency has reported that NATO is focusing its airstrikes on the region around Muammar Gaddafi's hometown of Sirte, where loyalist forces are battling Libyan rebel troops.
The military alliance said that NATO warplanes targeted 29 armed vehicles near the town, which is 400 km east of the Libyan capital of Tripoli. Rebels are trying to occupy Sirte but expect fierce resistance from tribesman and townspeople loyal to Gadhafi.
The NATO bombing appeared aimed at paving the way for the rebel advance.
In London, Liam Fox, the British defence secretary, said some elements of the Gaddafi's regime were in Sirte "where they are still continuing to wage war on the people of Libya''.
He said NATO would continue to strike at the Gaddafi forces' military capability.
1 hour 49 min ago - Libya
The Abu Salim trauma hospital in the Libyan capital, Tripoli, has been cut off to most of the outside world due to fighting in the area.
Al Jazeera's correspondent Nazanine Moshiri at the African Union meeting tweets:
nazaninemoshiri #Libya: Jacob Zuma is the main opponent of #NTC recognition, his "road map for Libya" plan was ignored by NATO and the West.
1 hour 29 min ago - Libya British Tornado jets fired precision-guided missiles against a large bunker in Libyan leader Col Muammar Gaddafi's hometown of Sirte, the UK Ministry of Defence (MoD) has said. You can read the full BBC report here.
1 hour 17 min ago - Libya
baysontheroad #LIBYA Water off in parts of Tripoli, raising all sorts of suspicious.
34 min 42 sec ago - Libya
The AP news agency reported that the EU urged caution Friday in the release of Libyan funds frozen by the international community, saying authorities must ensure the money does not end up in the hands of Muammar Gaddafi loyalists.
"We are looking at how we should do this. There are several options," Maja Kocijancic, spokesperson for EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton, told a news briefing.
"We will study how to unfreeze the assets in a way that the assets do not reach Gaddafi supporters but instead the National Transitional Council."
I am curious who the maker of the check of $500 million will be, but certainly it is clear that the recipient is [Abdel] Jalil,” he said. “You know, this is a guy who only two weeks ago has been linked to the murder of his own general and then a purge of his council, so he ends up in control of among other things the finance ministry of the National Transitional Council.”
Debar says that Libyan sovereign funds are now going to be handed over to a person who “you can’t really characterize as anything at this point but an attempted coupster
There is nothing linking him directly with the General's death. If it was the rivalry between different tribes that lead to him being killed do you really think it would be wise to disclose that before order is restored in Libya?
I am curious who the maker of the check of $500 million will be, but certainly it is clear that the recipient is [Abdel] Jalil,” he said. “You know, this is a guy who only two weeks ago has been linked to the murder of his own general and then a purge of his council, so he ends up in control of among other things the finance ministry of the National Transitional Council.”
Debar says that Libyan sovereign funds are now going to be handed over to a person who “you can’t really characterize as anything at this point but an attempted coupster
There is nothing linking him directly with the General's death. If it was the rivalry between different tribes that lead to him being killed do you really think it would be wise to disclose that before order is restored in Libya?
I understand that is is not wisely to disclose this information from his point of view and his intressed and his faction. But if this "New" leader does not disclose this information how do you expect order will come about. (how can a corrupt leader bring about order?)
I'm not naive i know that they will not openly give this information, investigating journalist will have to do it if they can.
What I am saying is that the actions taken by this man contradict that he he's suppose to be this honest man with moral and therefore he has as much credibility as Gadaffi has.
I find the discussion in the comments on the http://www.telegraph.co.uk web site are far more mature than in this topic. I have no fun in something like citing Wikipedia trying to prove obvious things like why military contractor is private or why a photo of people in yellow helmets does not prove that Gaddafi used black mercenaries, especially when we know that there is an Libyan army that have no problems with shooting at the rebels or RATs as they call them and there is simply no logical point to hire mercenaries (unless you want to please the western media) and many similar useless arguments. In case someone wants to share his thoughts, find out something new, have interesting discussion with smart people with different point of views, that can understand logic, I would suggest to use http://www.telegraph.co.uk or maybe. As I said before, the majority of people in internet discussions thinks that the conflict started and will lead to not for sake of Libyan people.
The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of Likely Voters shows that just 20% now believe the United States should continue its military action in Libya. Fifty-two percent (52%) oppose further military action there, while another 28% are not sure.
Speaking to TeleSUR on Wednesday, Venezuelan Ambassador to Libya Afif Tajeldine explained that “a group of armed men” had shot their way in to the official residence, “began searching the house and asking for me,” before “looting all things, including the vehicles, the entire house, leaving nothing in the residence and shooting in the air as they left.”
“This is an act that violates international law, since this site is part of our territory, Venezuelan territory, which they must respect as such,” said the ambassador.
This breach of international law, affirmed Tajeldine, “was carried out by armed groups supported by NATO, leading us to consider it a violation, by NATO itself, of our sovereignty."
On August 26 2011 23:26 GeyzeR wrote: The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of Likely Voters shows that just 20% now believe the United States should continue its military action in Libya. Fifty-two percent (52%) oppose further military action there, while another 28% are not sure.
Interesting are the reasons for the low support in the United States:
- The war is NOT vital for the national interests. - The republican voters, who mostly support(ed) military intervention in Iraq and Afghanistan, are simply against Obama. - There is the fear that the rebels are islamists, many people seem to believe a democratically elected Libyan government cannot be US-friendly. (the same would apply for any other arab nation)
It would have been easier for Obama to just stay out of the conflict, think about it!
On August 27 2011 01:02 Velr wrote: And by doing that losing all it's credibility as a leading nato nation.
Yeah, that would have been smart.
Britain and France were the only ones pushing for intervention, and it is highly doubtable they would have gone through with it without american support. But whatever, we are long past that point.
On August 26 2011 20:20 GeyzeR wrote: Franklin Lamb (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_Lamb) was shot in a leg by sniper, taken by NATO forces and now has become a pro rebel reporter. Cannot actually blame him, so much pressure on him.
Oh clearly, if he doesn't report what you want him to report, he lies. Maybe he was a CIA-agent all along, just waiting for this crucial moment to influence public opinion? Or maybe he is just reasonable?
You don't need to be naive to be a rebel-supporter in this conflict, you are naive if you don't see both sides.
Libyan rebel commander admits his fighters have al-Qaeda links Abdel-Hakim al-Hasidi, the Libyan rebel leader, has said jihadists who fought against allied troops in Iraq are on the front lines of the battle against Muammar Gaddafi's regime.
In an interview with the Italian newspaper Il Sole 24 Ore, Mr al-Hasidi admitted that he had recruited "around 25" men from the Derna area in eastern Libya to fight against coalition troops in Iraq. Some of them, he said, are "today are on the front lines in Adjabiya".
Mr al-Hasidi insisted his fighters "are patriots and good Muslims, not terrorists," but added that the "members of al-Qaeda are also good Muslims and are fighting against the invader".
On August 27 2011 01:02 Velr wrote: And by doing that losing all it's credibility as a leading nato nation.
Yeah, that would have been smart.
Britain and France were the only ones pushing for intervention, and it is highly doubtable they would have gone through with it without american support. But whatever, we are long past that point.
Some sort of backdoor dealing must have taken place for that Libya oil or a % of it. Or drilling rights to it.
Don't think any NATO country was going to do this for free.
On August 27 2011 01:02 Velr wrote: And by doing that losing all it's credibility as a leading nato nation.
Yeah, that would have been smart.
Britain and France were the only ones pushing for intervention, and it is highly doubtable they would have gone through with it without american support. But whatever, we are long past that point.
Some sort of backdoor dealing must have taken place for that Libya oil or a % of it. Or drilling rights to it.
Don't think any NATO country was going to do this for free.
It doesn't have to be money they can also do it for political power in the middle east. because as you prbably know the US and the west isn't very popular there a bit of support doesn't do any harm.
On August 27 2011 01:02 Velr wrote: And by doing that losing all it's credibility as a leading nato nation.
Yeah, that would have been smart.
Britain and France were the only ones pushing for intervention, and it is highly doubtable they would have gone through with it without american support. But whatever, we are long past that point.
Some sort of backdoor dealing must have taken place for that Libya oil or a % of it. Or drilling rights to it.
Don't think any NATO country was going to do this for free.
USA (the government not the people) has strategic interested in putting up bases in Libya, this will allow them to limit the amount of natural resources that China and Russia can extract from Africa. So while oil might not be the direct concern or interested of USA itself the flow of oil and resources is.
And when you talk about Britain and France one should understand that the governments are directed by the oligarch. It is not in the interested of Britain and France to occupy Libya but it is for Oil companies.
I like you to remind the letter BP wrote to Blair instructing him how to act towards Gadaffi to get a lucrative contract.
So it is not the prime misters or parties that rule the army and directives of Britain nor France but the Industries. This fact should always be in might if we are talking about nations.
On August 27 2011 01:02 Velr wrote: And by doing that losing all it's credibility as a leading nato nation.
Yeah, that would have been smart.
Britain and France were the only ones pushing for intervention, and it is highly doubtable they would have gone through with it without american support. But whatever, we are long past that point.
Some sort of backdoor dealing must have taken place for that Libya oil or a % of it. Or drilling rights to it.
Don't think any NATO country was going to do this for free.
Gadaffi has paid for his own death already as far as Britain is concerned imo. We'd do this for free.
On August 27 2011 01:02 Velr wrote: And by doing that losing all it's credibility as a leading nato nation.
Yeah, that would have been smart.
Britain and France were the only ones pushing for intervention, and it is highly doubtable they would have gone through with it without american support. But whatever, we are long past that point.
Some sort of backdoor dealing must have taken place for that Libya oil or a % of it. Or drilling rights to it.
Don't think any NATO country was going to do this for free.
Gadaffi has paid for his own death already as far as Britain is concerned imo. We'd do this for free.
How many drops of oil has the US taken from Iraq? Because currently the meter stands at 0. Or is that also an illuminati ruse?
The ammount of dictator supporters in this threat is getting ridiculous. I suppose it's easier to support a dictator when it's not your people he's oppressing. Kind of sickening that people have turned the suffering of the Libyan people into a joke just to feed their anti-Americanism and their conspiracy theories.
EPT
