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Who needs religion when you witness such grandeur?
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GLayne
Canada11 Posts
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Taktik
Poland680 Posts
![[image loading]](http://rlisu.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/warsaw-after-rising.jpg) Warsaw, after Uprising in 1944. ~85% of the polish capital was destroyed. The Uprising lasts for 63 days. About 200,000 civillians were killed. After these events Hitler ordered to burn down every building. German engineers paid special attention to libraries, museums, archives, historical buildings etc. This was planned attack on polish culture, they knew that they are goin' to lose the war and just wanted to hurt Poles even deeper. + Show Spoiler + Poles knew that after the war Stalin will rule East Europe, and living under Soviet Unions rule will not improve their situation greatly. This and "Operation Tempest" was the last chance to create an Independent Poland after WWII. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/57/Powstanie_warszawskie_patrol.jpg) Two months of freedom, but at what costs.. ![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/09/Warsaw_Uprising_boyscouts.jpg) Young boys and girls at age of 12-15 volunteered and were used as scouts and messangers. Other at age 16 were fighting with home made flamethrowers, grenades (they even build in secret armored car "Kubus") etc. After seeing this picture I wonder if I would have so many courage to do the same... | ||
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Order
Lithuania231 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.kurtcobainnews.com/NewsArticlewithKurtsBodyinBackground-small.jpg) That picture I have burned deeply in my mind. I can never forget what a sad sad day was the 8th of April, 1994. | ||
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awha
Denmark1358 Posts
On February 14 2011 00:41 ChaseR wrote: I have been to Birkenau among two other concentration camps in 04 when I was 14, I was also born and lived in Poland until I was 5, I have also meet various WW2 veterans. I vaguely remember when our group of 100+ people of classmates and their parents in turn put a rose on the Norwegian memorial, but I knew they could not possibly understand what took place here, since I was less than 5 I have witnessed human suffering throughout my life. I walked up on my own accord alone to the polish memorial and put down my rose, as I looked back at the single rose lying there I started crying, sobbing uncontrollably, I couldn't stop the flow of unexplained spontaneous emotions overtaking my body. I was shaking uncontrollably and blocked out everyone around me, I could not stop crying or trembling. My class teacher put his hand on my shoulder like he was proud of me for showing emotions or for whatever reason. He was raised during the 60's and who retired the year after where he had said, that the most memorable class he will remember is the first class he ever had and us... After a while as we where walking down the road a young man around my age walked up alongside me from another expedition. He said he was German, I said I was Norwegian but born Poland, he then said he was sorry and we just looked at each other and continued walking. Then a girl from my class that later became miss teen 05 hugged me and I let the emotions calm down and started to regain my composure. It was I think one of the most powerful emotional experience in my life and what I felt, I felt alone, nobody shared it and it wasn't because of what a fucking bad awful childhood I had but because of unexplained reasons that I identified myself with the pain of my kin and the suffering of those who had long since been executed. I was there ~8 years ago on a school trip.. it was one of the most powerful experiences of my life. I will never forget that place. | ||
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SaltTheWound
Germany72 Posts
![[image loading]](http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2007/02/07/gallery/embrace_zoom.jpg) The most epic picture i´ve ever seen. | ||
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Slix36
United Kingdom145 Posts
On February 14 2011 01:41 Sotamursu wrote: I forgot to put the other quote. Are you saying that dying for your beliefs is a good thing? Do you admire terrorists when they die for their beliefs? Why is Gandhi so special to you? I laugh at how you're trying to use terrorists in your argument. Terrorists do not just die for their beliefs, they kill for them too, that makes it entirely different. Infact, i'd say there's not that much difference between terrorists and soldiers, they're both willing to die and kill for their beliefs or country, they are both good examples of aberrated, uneducated people. the only differences between the two are cultural, the name used to identify what they are, and that when our soldiers kill innocent civillians, including women and children, the media don't report it. I do not admire either of these two types of people, but i do not hate them either, their environments and societies made them that way. nobody is born good, evil, a racist, a christian, a muslim, a soldier or a terrorist. they are victims of influence, as are those who did the influencing and those who were harmed because of that influence (and the act that harmed them would then go on to influence them, and so on). As for gandhi, he also said "There are many causes that I am prepared to die for but no causes that I am prepared to kill for.". You may think that our quotes together are paradoxical, they are not. In your quote he advocated violence over cowardice, however violence is not the act of killing, it is the act of harming, therefore to be violent is not nessecarily to be a killer. and referring to my post, i did not intend to imply that he never advocated violence over anything else, just that in that quote that you referred to he did not. Why is gandhi so special to me? Well, he understood many important things that most do not, amongst them the idea that "An eye for eye only ends up making the whole world blind.". Perhaps you could tell me why you seem to hate him? Edit: Spoilered this so those who don't want to see this gandhi argument don't have to. | ||
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KhaosKreator
Canada145 Posts
On February 13 2011 17:55 Krehlmar wrote:What makes that powerful is that even today people tend to believe what they read, you think he's a vietcog/officer/terrorist because that is what has been read bellow his pictures. But he wasn't. He was just someone innocently blamed. uh huh. well to quote the man taking the actual picture... "The guy was a hero. America should be crying. I just hate to see him go this way, without people knowing anything about him." I'd trust the journalists recollection of the events over anyone else. | ||
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Whiladan
United States463 Posts
On February 14 2011 02:50 Slix36 wrote: I laugh at how you're trying to use terrorists in your argument. Terrorists do not just die for their beliefs, they kill for them too, that makes it entirely different. Infact, i'd say there's not that much difference between terrorists and soldiers, they're both willing to die and kill for their beliefs or country, they are both good examples of aberrated, uneducated people. the only differences between the two are cultural, the name used to identify what they are, and that when our soldiers kill innocent civillians, including women and children, the media don't report it. I do not admire either of these two types of people, but i do not hate them either, their environments and societies made them that way. nobody is born good, evil, a racist, a christian, a muslim, a soldier or a terrorist. they are victims of influence, as are those who did the influencing and those who were harmed because of that influence (and the act that harmed them would then go on to influence them, and so on). As for gandhi, he also said "There are many causes that I am prepared to die for but no causes that I am prepared to kill for.". You may think that our quotes together are paradoxical, they are not. In your quote he advocated violence over cowardice, however violence is not the act of killing, it is the act of harming, therefore to be violent is not nessecarily to be a killer. and referring to my post, i did not intend to imply that he never advocated violence over anything else, just that in that quote that you referred to he did not. Why is gandhi so special to me? Well, he understood many important things that most do not, amongst them the idea that "An eye for eye only ends up making the whole world blind.". Perhaps you could tell me why you seem to hate him? For fuck's sake, take it to PM's already. But to hone in on one particular case of ignorance, I'm not so sure if your soldiers across the sea are defective, uneducated babykillers like you assert...but in the USA, 97% of our soldiers hold a high-school diploma (which is a much higher percentage than the civilian population which is 86.5%), and it is actually harder to enter into the U.S. military than it is to get into college (only 1/9 who walk through the recruiter's door are qualified to join the military). To enter the military, you must pass a physical, mental, and moral evaluation. Sure, there are soldiers who snap due to the stress, and there are some bad-eggs who slip through the cracks in the system. But there are also civilians who snap and kill women/children every day as well. It is unfair to judge the acts of a few soldiers and apply their qualities to ever soldier. It would be fantastic if you could educate yourself and refrain from posting ignorance from now on. EDIT: Sorry for being a hypocrite after telling to take it to PM's... | ||
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AZN)Boy
United States57 Posts
[img]http://imgur.com/38I06.jpg[/img] The last words of Thích Quảng Đức before his self-immolation were documented in a letter he had left: Before closing my eyes and moving towards the vision of the Buddha, I respectfully plead to President Ngo Dinh Diem to take a mind of compassion towards the people of the nation and implement religious equality to maintain the strength of the homeland eternally. I call the venerables, reverends, members of the sangha and the lay Buddhists to organise in solidarity to make sacrifices to protect Buddhism. Emotionally disturbing but yet captures the pain and suffering that my parents endured during this tumultuous transitional period. AWESOME thread | ||
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Megaliskuu
United States5123 Posts
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lazyfeet
United States468 Posts
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Whiladan
United States463 Posts
Just to add context, the first picture is a WWI sailor kissing his girlfriend moments after being presented the Medal of Honor. SSG Giunta receiving his. ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/XOf8s.jpg) | ||
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D1pstick
United States106 Posts
[QUOTE]On February 14 2011 03:34 lazyfeet wrote: Nice thread + Show Spoiler + [/QUOTE] Just to add context, the first picture is a WWI sailor kissing his girlfriend moments after being presented the Medal of Honor. No it wasn't [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victory_over_Japan_Day]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victory_over_Japan_Day[/url] It was taken on V-J day (Victory in Japan day) August 14, 1945. Not in World War 1, but rather World War 2. | ||
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Whiladan
United States463 Posts
On February 14 2011 03:47 D1pstick wrote: Ah, my mistake. There might be a similar picture, or I might have just imagined it all in my head. | ||
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Sotamursu
Finland612 Posts
I laugh at how you're trying to use terrorists in your argument. Terrorists do not just die for their beliefs, they kill for them too, that makes it entirely different. Infact, i'd say there's not that much difference between terrorists and soldiers, they're both willing to die and kill for their beliefs or country, they are both good examples of aberrated, uneducated people. the only differences between the two are cultural, the name used to identify what they are, and that when our soldiers kill innocent civillians, including women and children, the media don't report it. I do not admire either of these two types of people, but i do not hate them either, their environments and societies made them that way. nobody is born good, evil, a racist, a christian, a muslim, a soldier or a terrorist. they are victims of influence, as are those who did the influencing and those who were harmed because of that influence (and the act that harmed them would then go on to influence them, and so on). What about countries where if you are a man, military service is mandatory? Is 99% of the male population in that country an uneducated idiot? I did not ask you if you admired terrorists killing other people, I asked you if you admired them killing themselves for their cause. As for gandhi, he also said "There are many causes that I am prepared to die for but no causes that I am prepared to kill for.". You may think that our quotes together are paradoxical, they are not. In your quote he advocated violence over cowardice, however violence is not the act of killing, it is the act of harming, therefore to be violent is not nessecarily to be a killer. and referring to my post, i did not intend to imply that he never advocated violence over anything else, just that in that quote that you referred to he did not. When he adviced violence it also meant possible deaths, when you consider the context. He was talking about taking up arms. If someone is scared of armed resistance and non-violent resistance, he should go for armed resistance. That is what he meant. What do you think happens to the agressors when they come up against armed resistance? When he said that there isn othing he is prepared to kill for, he really meant himself. Why is gandhi so special to me? Well, he understood many important things that most do not, amongst them the idea that "An eye for eye only ends up making the whole world blind.". This is just a gross simplification. Almost nothing is "eye for an eye." Sure non-violent resistance probably is the best option in some cases, but saying that it is so in every single case is just as wrong as saying war is the correct choice in all situations. And don't tell me there were no cases of non-violent resistance before Gandhi, he did not invent it. Perhaps you could tell me why you seem to hate him? I wouldn't say that I hate him, but I certainly don't like or admire him. I disagree with pretty much everything he says. I feel like he is oversimplifying things way too much, which is something idealists tend to do. | ||
CaucasianAsian
Korea (South)11591 Posts
On February 14 2011 03:59 Whiladan wrote: Ah, my mistake. There might be a similar picture, or I might have just imagined it all in my head. He was also going around kissing every girl he saw in the streets. The funny thing is this particular nurse slapped him right after. | ||
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Smajdalf
Slovakia8 Posts
![[image loading]](http://everglowforrest.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/rally_terran.jpg) this one is just hilarious | ||
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Bash
Finland1533 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.blahblahblahg.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/good-morning-lemmings.jpg) This is a picture that often pops up in the context of "funny pics", and while it is also that I personally always find it to be more than that. It's a man's statement against conformity, by painting that graffiti he separates himself of all the people going about their mindless routine on the road below, that one act placing him above (if only for the tiniest moment) the people reading his greeting. I bet every person commuting on that road on that grey morning had a moment of introspection they wouldn't have had otherwise. I don't know if there is any actual backstory to this picture, and I hope to never find out. It's probably not as meaningful as I've built it up to be. | ||
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chobopeon
United States7342 Posts
On February 14 2011 04:20 CaucasianAsian wrote: He was also going around kissing every girl he saw in the streets. The funny thing is this particular nurse slapped him right after. Is that true? I recall reading an interview with her where she said she just let him kiss her because it was an important day, then they both walked away. | ||
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Lorken
New Zealand804 Posts
Here's some I took around my city: Whangarei Falls: ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/MxZfy.jpg) NZ Refining company from the top of Mt. Mania: ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/ge3Yb.jpg) | ||
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