EPT100 Sled Dogs killed in Whistler after Olympics - Page 5
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KwarK
United States43869 Posts
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Avila
Canada39 Posts
On February 01 2011 12:26 theBOOCH wrote: So sad. I feel bad for the guy who did it too, if he was put up to it. Imagine? "Kill all of these dogs or you're fired, either that or they'll starve to death." And then the guy had no idea what he was doing. I would want to kill myself after that (assuming I had gone through with it, which of course I wouldn't have). Sad on so many levels. BULLsHIT to the guy who did it!! He is as bad or worse, you dont "put someone up" to kill a living creature for no reason. He SHOULD have contacted the BC humane society and informed them of such a thing, he works at a tourist attraction, its not like being the CEO of Microsoft and losing your job, he could have gone to tim hortons the next day and got a job.. hes a sick bastard like the rest and now trying to cover his ass... | ||
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acker
United States2958 Posts
On February 01 2011 12:53 KwarK wrote: On a related note, you can't simply take working dogs and give them to a good home where they warm themselves in front of the fire and play with the children. They have a completely different bond with humans than a pet dog would, despite being the same species. They're raised as a tool, they're still mans best friend but the nature of the relationship is completely different. I don't know about this. The US Military retires* its working dogs to civilian households fairly easily, and those things are trained to kill people, not pull sleds. *Yes, the Military retires its dogs, they stopped killing them a while ago. It's kinda funny when you think about it. | ||
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Zyban
United States54 Posts
that being said, IF TOURISTS wern't paying money for these sled rides it would have NEVER happend. Think about that the next time you ride a horse and buggy in somewhere. | ||
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FrostyTreats
United States355 Posts
On February 01 2011 11:43 Dance. wrote: This is fucking sick. Hope this guy is put to death by being shot multiple times, having his throat slit, and his face blown off. if he didnt do it someone else would have. The Company that ordered it should be condemned, Not him. | ||
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acker
United States2958 Posts
On February 01 2011 12:59 FrostyTreats wrote: if he didnt do it someone else would have. The Company that ordered it should be condemned, Not him. Then that hypothetical someone else would be on the block, not him. But he didn't refuse. | ||
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FrostyTreats
United States355 Posts
On February 01 2011 12:59 acker wrote: Then that hypothetical someone else would be on the block, not him. But he didn't refuse. i agree. Hitler actually wasn't responsible for WW2 either. It was the people who followed his orders. thanks for pointing me towards this logic. | ||
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Krikkitone
United States1451 Posts
The option apparently was either kill them or release them to starve/survive in the wild, and the second option might not have been legal (as they might have caused trouble) And in terms of responsibility.. the responsibility is with everyone in the chain of command... the CEO all the way down to the guy who pulled the trigger. As for the question of eating a pet for food v. eating a meat animal for food. Would someone burn their wedding dress for warmth?... not except in dire situations, that doesn't mean it is immoral to burn things, just that here is sentimental value that would be lost. Most people wouldn't eat their pet... unless they were starving, then some would consider it. | ||
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Wolf
Korea (South)3290 Posts
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
A news release from the company says it did not instruct the general manager to carry out the killings. The company was aware of the “euthanization” of dogs, the release states. “But it was our expectation that it was done in a proper, legal and humane manner,” the news release says. Company officials only became aware of the incident on Friday. decieve, inveigle, obfuscate. | ||
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pokeyAA
United States936 Posts
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AcrossFiveJulys
United States3612 Posts
And to the inevitable response of "the dogs weren't killed humanely": 1) what difference does it make? if you are against an animal being subjected to pain, how can you possibly justify killing it in any circumstance? 2) do you think when a dog dies for meat in korea, it is killed humanely every single time? I would venture a guess that of the thousands of dogs that are slaughtered a day in korea, over a hundred of those dogs die "inhumanely" due to accidents or carelessness.. | ||
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Touch
Canada475 Posts
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Deadlyhazard
United States1177 Posts
On February 01 2011 13:06 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: What the hell is the big deal? Dogs are raised and slaughtered for meat in Korea, for example. I hope everyone that is freaking out about this is either a vegetarian or upset that the dogs were killed wastefully. I would absolutely hate killing them myself, but I won't pretend for a second that I'm against it happening any more than I'm against dogs being raised and slaughtered for meat. Err I don't see the first point. The same people against this argument are probably against the slaughtering of farm animals. It's a big deal because the animals weren't just tamed for homes (and yes you can condition a trained animal over a long period of time to be 'home' friendly) or released into the wilderness (where it would have a difficult time learning to survive but at least would have a chance rather than being popped). | ||
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luckyseven
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Arccotangent
519 Posts
On February 01 2011 11:06 Eric9 wrote: How can you sleep at night? Humanity dictates that we all have compassion for other living things. You must be sick in the head or worse.. Christian. User was temp banned for this post. While I do love dogs, and would like to own a dog (or a cat) myself one day, I do feel that he has a point. You can categorize a dog as a living thing, an animal, or just as a dog, but in essence, it is a dog. I don't really feel that we as humans treat all living things the same; there is a certain sanctity about a select few living things (such as pets), and disregard for other living things (do we care if we kill bacteria when we wash our hands?). Vegetarians, at least to my understanding, condemn the killing of animals for food, and thus choose vegetables and fruits; yet aren't these all "living things"? Even if we narrow it down to just animals, my experiences suggest that we revere certain animals over others. Do we really feel all that bad if we kill a mosquito, or an ant? And even across different cultures, perceptions of animals will change; an animal that is a household pet in one country could be a delicacy in another. I'm not attacking any specific positions on this issue, I just feel that his opinion is not inherently wrong in any way. And btw, I wouldn't consider myself a Christian. | ||
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AcrossFiveJulys
United States3612 Posts
On February 01 2011 13:09 Deadlyhazard wrote: Err I don't see the first point. The same people against this argument are probably against the slaughtering of farm animals. What I mean is I would hope that those same people are against eating meat entirely (or at least "smart" animals), hence vegetarians. | ||
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Rawenkeke
Norway350 Posts
On February 01 2011 13:08 Touch wrote: I don't get it, this makes no sense. Why didn't these morons simply give the dogs away to animal care organizations, or simple families who want a pet? Sled dogs are fucking awesome. Yeah, or simply call the SPCA or whatever they're called and let them know .and if there's any possible way for them to place the dogs in homes, euthanasia should be the last option. | ||
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Deadlyhazard
United States1177 Posts
On February 01 2011 13:12 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: What I mean is I would hope that those same people are against eating meat entirely (or at least "smart" animals), hence vegetarians. Yeah okay that makes sense. Because otherwise they'd be hypocrites  . Though I'm pretty sure these sleddogs aren't being slaughtered for food and are just being 'wasted'....but you already mentioned that. So yeah I see what you're saying. | ||
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-Exalt-
United States972 Posts
Whats worse is all the losers in this thread saying "whats the big deal"... | ||
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