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iHirO
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1381 Posts
January 16 2016 08:39 GMT
#1481
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Jason-3 Rollout
GraphicsThis is for all you new people: I only have one rule. Everyone fights. No one quits. You don't do your job, I'll shoot you myself. You get me?
iHirO
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1381 Posts
January 17 2016 17:43 GMT
#1482
1 hour till launch.

GraphicsThis is for all you new people: I only have one rule. Everyone fights. No one quits. You don't do your job, I'll shoot you myself. You get me?
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16998 Posts
January 17 2016 17:58 GMT
#1483
are they re-using the rocket segment that landed a few weeks ago?
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Yrr
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany804 Posts
January 17 2016 18:11 GMT
#1484
On January 18 2016 02:58 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
are they re-using the rocket segment that landed a few weeks ago?

No. But they want to reuse todays rocket if possible.
MMR decay is bad, m'kay? | Personal Hero: TerranHwaiting
iHirO
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1381 Posts
January 17 2016 18:12 GMT
#1485
On January 18 2016 02:58 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
are they re-using the rocket segment that landed a few weeks ago?


No, thats gonna go in a museum or something. I doubt they'll reuse a stage for a while, possibly 2017.
GraphicsThis is for all you new people: I only have one rule. Everyone fights. No one quits. You don't do your job, I'll shoot you myself. You get me?
Yrr
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany804 Posts
January 17 2016 18:22 GMT
#1486
Cpt. America is on site :D
MMR decay is bad, m'kay? | Personal Hero: TerranHwaiting
iHirO
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1381 Posts
January 17 2016 19:10 GMT
#1487
GraphicsThis is for all you new people: I only have one rule. Everyone fights. No one quits. You don't do your job, I'll shoot you myself. You get me?
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16998 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-17 19:18:51
January 17 2016 19:17 GMT
#1488
On January 18 2016 03:12 iHirO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2016 02:58 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
are they re-using the rocket segment that landed a few weeks ago?


No, thats gonna go in a museum or something. I doubt they'll reuse a stage for a while, possibly 2017.


1/4 in landings.

i see Space Shuttle levels of re-usability in the Falcon9's future. maybe even less. so far its less. the sales job by the commentator guy was good though. SpaceX is good at PR.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11929 Posts
January 17 2016 19:41 GMT
#1489
Why are they doing an ocean landing when it is much harder due to waves? Safety concerns?

If that is the reason, why not use a stable platform instead of a ship? (Cost?)
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11629 Posts
January 17 2016 19:52 GMT
#1490
Because the trajectories that you get allowed to put your rockets on usually go over water (People don't like rockets falling onto their houses)

And a stable platform is at exactly one place. You can put a ship where your trajectory will lead the rocket to land, and correct a bit if stuff doesn't go exactly as planned.
iHirO
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1381 Posts
January 17 2016 20:00 GMT
#1491
On January 18 2016 04:41 Yurie wrote:
Why are they doing an ocean landing when it is much harder due to waves? Safety concerns?

If that is the reason, why not use a stable platform instead of a ship? (Cost?)


Landing the 1st stage is only secondary to launching the payload successfully. For certain high orbits or heavy payloads, there's not enough fuel left to fly the stage back to the launch pad, which is where the barge comes in.

The barge is over 90m long and 50m wide and basically ignores most waves.

The really interesting launch will be the Falcon Heavy in a few months, when all three stages are gonna touch down (boat and pad).
GraphicsThis is for all you new people: I only have one rule. Everyone fights. No one quits. You don't do your job, I'll shoot you myself. You get me?
iHirO
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1381 Posts
January 17 2016 21:59 GMT
#1492
Like a glove!

GraphicsThis is for all you new people: I only have one rule. Everyone fights. No one quits. You don't do your job, I'll shoot you myself. You get me?
_vk_
Profile Joined April 2010
219 Posts
January 17 2016 22:16 GMT
#1493
On January 18 2016 04:17 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2016 03:12 iHirO wrote:
On January 18 2016 02:58 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
are they re-using the rocket segment that landed a few weeks ago?


No, thats gonna go in a museum or something. I doubt they'll reuse a stage for a while, possibly 2017.


1/4 in landings.

i see Space Shuttle levels of re-usability in the Falcon9's future. maybe even less. so far its less. the sales job by the commentator guy was good though. SpaceX is good at PR.


SpaceX is already the cheapest in the western world, without any reusability. 'Nuff said.
"Everyone has weaknesses. For most people it's that they're bad at the game. " -- IdrA
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-17 23:12:53
January 17 2016 23:11 GMT
#1494
Looks like it didn't actually come down hard, just fell over afterwards.




Also
On January 18 2016 04:41 Yurie wrote:
Why are they doing an ocean landing when it is much harder due to waves? Safety concerns?

If that is the reason, why not use a stable platform instead of a ship? (Cost?)


iHirO
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1381 Posts
January 18 2016 04:54 GMT
#1495


(Crash video)

GraphicsThis is for all you new people: I only have one rule. Everyone fights. No one quits. You don't do your job, I'll shoot you myself. You get me?
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5765 Posts
January 18 2016 05:11 GMT
#1496
When it falls over it's like a 10 story version of one of those Pillsbury biscuit tubes popping.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16998 Posts
January 18 2016 05:58 GMT
#1497
On January 18 2016 07:16 _vk_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2016 04:17 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On January 18 2016 03:12 iHirO wrote:
On January 18 2016 02:58 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
are they re-using the rocket segment that landed a few weeks ago?

No, thats gonna go in a museum or something. I doubt they'll reuse a stage for a while, possibly 2017.

1/4 in landings.
i see Space Shuttle levels of re-usability in the Falcon9's future. maybe even less. so far its less. the sales job by the commentator guy was good though. SpaceX is good at PR.

SpaceX is already the cheapest in the western world, without any reusability. 'Nuff said.


nice to see everyone conceding on the re-usability issue after all the celebrating from 1 landing and the rocket never getting re-used.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5765 Posts
January 18 2016 06:03 GMT
#1498
On January 18 2016 14:58 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2016 07:16 _vk_ wrote:
On January 18 2016 04:17 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On January 18 2016 03:12 iHirO wrote:
On January 18 2016 02:58 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
are they re-using the rocket segment that landed a few weeks ago?

No, thats gonna go in a museum or something. I doubt they'll reuse a stage for a while, possibly 2017.

1/4 in landings.
i see Space Shuttle levels of re-usability in the Falcon9's future. maybe even less. so far its less. the sales job by the commentator guy was good though. SpaceX is good at PR.

SpaceX is already the cheapest in the western world, without any reusability. 'Nuff said.


nice to see everyone conceding on the re-usability issue after all the celebrating from 1 landing and the rocket never getting re-used.

For whatever reason, it's considered prohibitively difficult to reuse something after it's exploded.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
misirlou
Profile Joined June 2010
Portugal3241 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-18 18:28:00
January 18 2016 18:18 GMT
#1499
On January 18 2016 14:58 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2016 07:16 _vk_ wrote:
On January 18 2016 04:17 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On January 18 2016 03:12 iHirO wrote:
On January 18 2016 02:58 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
are they re-using the rocket segment that landed a few weeks ago?

No, thats gonna go in a museum or something. I doubt they'll reuse a stage for a while, possibly 2017.

1/4 in landings.
i see Space Shuttle levels of re-usability in the Falcon9's future. maybe even less. so far its less. the sales job by the commentator guy was good though. SpaceX is good at PR.

SpaceX is already the cheapest in the western world, without any reusability. 'Nuff said.


nice to see everyone conceding on the re-usability issue after all the celebrating from 1 landing and the rocket never getting re-used.

they are 1/1 in RTLS attempts. They failed 3 barge landings and it was a huge achievement they even soft landed this one given the high waves (go watch the stream before it froze, watch the horizon and how much it changes, it's ridiculous). This was also the last f9v1.1 that flew and it was not going to be reused, ever. The newest version (the one that landed) already has better legs.

As for "SHUTTLE LEVELS OF RE-USABILITY" stop taking a dump on the thread and follow up on all of the news, not just the ones that serve your point. They static fired the rocket that landed without any work done on it (it was still dirty even) and only one engine showed minor fluctuations. Out of 9. That is way beyond any re-usability shuttle has ever demonstrated, it was considered a miracle by some engineers that the shuttle turbo pumps never went kaboom on a flight and they had to be replaced after EVERY SINGLE flight because they couldn't possibly handle 2.

e: AFAIK they landed on a barge on this flight because they didn't have permission to return to launch site.

landing video: https://www.instagram.com/p/BAqirNbwEc0/
Ljas
Profile Joined July 2012
Finland725 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-18 19:02:52
January 18 2016 19:02 GMT
#1500
Edit: Nevermind.
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