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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 18 2022 16:22 GMT
#4321


"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 19 2022 02:11 GMT
#4322
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 21 2022 13:11 GMT
#4323
Big day for SpaceX.



"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14104 Posts
March 21 2022 14:27 GMT
#4324
Pushing a greater than one a week cadence for the company while picking up a ton of business from former Russian customers is the dream that was promised when they finally got the boosters to land on a ship.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9037 Posts
March 21 2022 14:39 GMT
#4325
I think they either had to wait for contracts to be fulfilled by the other players, EU regulations to allow it, or this kind of perfect storm to fall in their favor. There are what, 4 maybe players who can do what they do at the heavier payloads? Probably less? Electron, Ariane, ULA, and SpaceX, right?
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 21 2022 15:42 GMT
#4326
Again after 18 years... think there would be more than just this.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4205 Posts
March 21 2022 15:56 GMT
#4327
It's really weird to me how many space subreddits/media gives Blue origin so much media attention when they haven't done anything?

"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22158 Posts
March 21 2022 16:07 GMT
#4328
On March 22 2022 00:56 lestye wrote:
It's really weird to me how many space subreddits/media gives Blue origin so much media attention when they haven't done anything?
Because its Jeff Bezos, that's it.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9037 Posts
March 21 2022 20:41 GMT
#4329
A tour of the Sierra Space ship. Has some decent coverage and information.
jamieshah24
Profile Joined March 2022
1 Post
March 22 2022 10:40 GMT
#4330
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 22 2022 20:27 GMT
#4331
A Blue Origin update on the BE-4.

As Blue Origin nears the critical point of delivering flight-ready BE-4 rocket engines to United Launch Alliance, the engineer in charge of the company's rocket engine program has decided to leave.

Blue Origin CEO Bob Smith recently informed employees of the departure of John Vilja, the senior vice president of Blue Engines. In Smith's email to employees, obtained by Ars, Vilja is said to be leaving Blue to pursue his "many" interests and hobbies outside of work.

"During his time at Blue, John led the team to support eight New Shepard missions powered by BE-3PM engines, countless hot fire tests, and made progress on multiple engines development programs," Smith wrote. "He also built a world-class Engines team, recruiting some of the best talent in the business."

Sources familiar with Vilja's work confirmed that he was a good manager and engineer who helped get the BE-4 rocket engine program back on track. As Ars reported last August, before Vilja's arrival, the numerous challenges faced by the engineers and technicians working to build and test BE-4 development engines included being "hardware poor."

During his tenure, Vilja hired Linda Cova to serve as his deputy. She will now lead, at least on an interim basis, the Engines team at Blue Origin. Cova came to the company in 2021 after working on various propulsion programs at Aerojet Rocketdyne for 35 years. Among her duties, she led the development of the AR1 engine, which lost out to the BE-4 engine in a competition held by United Launch Alliance for its new Vulcan rocket.

It was not immediately clear why Vilja left Blue Origin with the end of the BE-4 development program in sight. However, a Blue Origin spokesperson said Vilja’s departure would have no effect on the production of BE-4 engines.

According to company sources, the first two BE-4 flight engines are in final production at Blue Origin's factory in Kent, Washington. The first of these engines is scheduled to be shipped to a test site in May for "acceptance testing" to ensure its flight readiness. A second should follow in reasonably short order. On this schedule, Blue Origin could conceivably deliver both flight engines to United Launch Alliance in June or July. Sources at Blue Origin and United Launch Alliance say development versions of the BE-4—which are nearly identical to the flight versions—have been performing well in tests.

Upon receiving the engines, United Launch Alliance plans to install two of the BE-4s on the Vulcan rocket for a debut launch as soon as possible. On Tuesday, at the Satellite 2022 conference in the District of Columbia, United Launch Alliance CEO Tory Bruno said he still anticipates that Vulcan's debut launch will occur in 2022. However, a summertime delivery would be a very tight schedule for United Launch Alliance.

There is increasing pressure to demonstrate the readiness of Vulcan, which will carry a small lunar mission for Astrobotic on its first launch. Originally scheduled to debut in 2020, Vulcan is expected to play a major role in US national security launches during the mid-2020s. However, due to delays, the US Space Force has already had to move the first military mission assigned to Vulcan, designated USSF-51, onto an Atlas 5 rocket.

The war in Ukraine has added further incentive to get Vulcan flying. There are a finite amount of Atlas V missions before the retirement of the rocket, which uses Russian-made RD-180 engines. The US military is eager to move its missions to vehicles made in the United States. At present, the only alternative the US Space Force has for medium- and heavy-lift is the Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy rockets built by SpaceX, which use American-made Merlin engines.


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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-03-23 17:21:44
March 23 2022 17:20 GMT
#4332
Rocket Lab USA Inc. is exploring ways to accelerate development of its next rocket after the invasion of Ukraine effectively ended commercial business for Russia’s Soyuz medium-lift rocket.

The company could build three Neutron rockets in 2024, the year it plans to begin flight tests, instead of just one as previously planned, Rocket Lab Chief Executive Officer Peter Beck said in an interview Wednesday. The company, based in Long Beach, California, hasn’t decided whether to increase the number of Neutrons it builds and has sufficient capital for development, he said.

“The question I’m getting asked from all corners of the field is can you develop Neutron faster?” Beck said.

The reusable rocket is slated to begin commercial service in 2025 and carry about 8,000 kilograms (17,600 pounds) to low-earth orbit. That would put it in direct competition with Soyuz and Space Exploration Technologies Corp.’s Falcon 9. The Russian rocket has garnered a reputation over decades as reliable and affordable, Beck said.

“It’s an understatement to say that the vehicle is in incredibly high demand now,” he said. “Basically everything that was going to fly on the Soyuz is looking for a ride.”


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lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4205 Posts
March 23 2022 17:31 GMT
#4333
I get not wanting to support the Russian state, but unemployed rocket scientists scared the shit out of America's security interests post 1991.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 23 2022 20:26 GMT
#4334
So SpaceX got more Moon missions. Both crew and uncrewed.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9037 Posts
March 23 2022 22:07 GMT
#4335
Here's the NASA press release if anyone wanted to read it
As NASA makes strides to return humans to the lunar surface under Artemis, the agency announced plans Wednesday to create additional opportunities for commercial companies to develop an astronaut Moon lander.

Under this new approach, NASA is asking American companies to propose lander concepts capable of ferrying astronauts between lunar orbit and the lunar surface for missions beyond Artemis III, which will land the first astronauts on the Moon in more than 50 years.

Built and operated according to NASA’s long-term requirements at the Moon, new landers will have the capability to dock to a lunar orbiting space station known as Gateway, increase crew capacity, and transport more science and technology to the surface.

“Under Artemis, NASA will carry out a series of groundbreaking missions on and around the Moon to prepare for the next giant leap for humanity: a crewed mission to Mars,” said NASA Administrator Bill Nelson. “Competition is critical to our success on the lunar surface and beyond, ensuring we have the capability to carry out a cadence of missions over the next decade. Thank you to the Biden Administration and Congress for their support of this new astronaut lander opportunity, which will ultimately strengthen and increase flexibility for Artemis.”

NASA’s plans call for long-term lunar exploration and include landing the first woman and first person of color on the Moon as part of future Artemis missions. The agency is pursuing two parallel paths for continuing lunar lander development and demonstration, one that calls for additional work under an existing contract with SpaceX, and another open to all other U.S. companies to provide a new landing demonstration mission from lunar orbit to the surface of the Moon.

In April 2021, NASA selected SpaceX as its partner to land the next American astronauts on the lunar surface. That demonstration mission is targeted for no earlier than April 2025. Exercising an option under the original award, NASA now is asking SpaceX to transform the company’s proposed human landing system into a spacecraft that meets the agency’s requirements for recurring services for a second demonstration mission. Pursuing more development work under the original contract maximizes NASA’s investment and partnership with SpaceX.

To bring a second entrant to market for the development of a lunar lander in parallel with SpaceX, NASA will issue a draft solicitation in the coming weeks. This upcoming activity will lay out requirements for a future development and demonstration lunar landing capability to take astronauts between orbit and the surface of the Moon. This effort is meant to maximize NASA’s support for competition and provides redundancy in services to help ensure NASA’s ability to transport astronauts to the lunar surface.

This upcoming second contract award, known as the Sustaining Lunar Development contract, combined with the second option under SpaceX’s original landing award, will pave the way to future recurring lunar transportation services for astronauts at the Moon.

“This strategy expedites progress toward a long-term, sustaining lander capability as early as the 2026 or 2027 timeframe,” said Lisa Watson-Morgan, program manager for the Human Landing System Program at NASA’s Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Alabama. “We expect to have two companies safely carry astronauts in their landers to the surface of the Moon under NASA’s guidance before we ask for services, which could result in multiple experienced providers in the market.”

After the new draft solicitation is published, NASA will host a virtual industry day. Once comments and questions from the draft solicitation process have been reviewed, the agency plans by to issue the formal request for proposals this summer.

Astronaut Moon landers are a vital part of NASA’s deep space exploration plans, along with the Space Launch System rocket, Orion spacecraft, ground systems, and Gateway. NASA is committed to using a commercial astronaut lunar lander to carry the astronauts to the surface of the Moon, expanding exploration and preparing humanity for the next giant leap, human exploration of Mars.

www.nasa.gov
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-03-24 14:17:37
March 24 2022 14:17 GMT
#4336
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9037 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-03-24 15:00:38
March 24 2022 15:00 GMT
#4337
On March 24 2022 23:17 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/thesheetztweetz/status/1506759497087397904

As long as NASA includes a stipulation that any and all costs associated with delays and overruns are paid for by the winning company, I'm all for it. Make those that can't keep a schedule pay dearly for it. Wonder how quick shit changes on the administrative side.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 24 2022 18:37 GMT
#4338
Now another high profile for New Glenn has left.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 25 2022 21:44 GMT
#4339
Another delay:

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9037 Posts
March 25 2022 22:25 GMT
#4340
What the actual fuck is taking so long? This is the dumbest shit since Bezos offered to pay $2bn. Just get the fuck on with it!
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