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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9052 Posts
November 09 2016 21:19 GMT
#2101
This isn't NASA or space related per se, but I didn't feel like sprinkling necro dust to bring it back.

Hyperloop Explains How it's First Routes would Work
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 10 2016 02:07 GMT
#2102


"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 13 2016 18:33 GMT
#2103
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-16 20:57:53
November 16 2016 20:47 GMT
#2104
To those that though SpaceX stalled while investigating the fuel explosion...



https://www.instagram.com/p/BM4P6b_g2N9/?hl=en



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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 24 2016 15:38 GMT
#2105
WASHINGTON — NASA awarded a contract to SpaceX Nov. 22 for the Falcon 9 launch of an Earth science satellite in 2021.

The award, with a total cost to NASA of $112 million, is for the launch of the Surface Water and Ocean Topography (SWOT) spacecraft, scheduled for April 2021 from Vandenberg Air Force Base in California. The contract, NASA said in a statement, includes the launch service itself as well as spacecraft processing, payload integration, and tracking, data and telemetry support.

The contract is the third SpaceX has won for NASA spacecraft, excluding its contracts under NASA’s commercial cargo and crew programs. A Falcon 9 launched the Jason-3 satellite in January under a contract awarded in 2012. SpaceX won a NASA contract in December 2014 for the launch of the Transiting Exoplanet Survey Satellite (TESS) mission, currently scheduled for no earlier than late 2017.

The cost of the SWOT contract is significantly higher than previous NASA contracts won by SpaceX. The Jason-3 contract was valued at $82 million and the TESS award at $87 million, according to the contract announcements. All are higher than the price SpaceX quotes on its web site for launch services alone, $62 million, which does not include the additional services or other mission assurance work in the NASA contracts. The total cost of the contract also includes payments to organizations other than SpaceX that support the launch and related services.

NASA spokeswoman Cheryl Warner said that the award values can differ from contract to contract depending on the specific requirements for each mission. “The specific launch service price is considered competition and procurement sensitive information,” she said Nov. 22.


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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 30 2016 16:08 GMT
#2106
While we are waiting for Audi’s first commercially available all-electric vehicle, the quattro e-tron which is expected to hit the market in 2018, the German automaker announced today that it completed work on what could now be considered its first electric vehicle, the “Audi lunar quattro” rover.

The vehicle, which is equipped with an electric powertrain based on Audi’s e-tron tech used in its “normal” electric vehicle programs, was developed by Audi in partnership with a group of engineers participating in the Google Lunar XPRIZE competition, a unique challenge to land a privately-funded rover on the moon’s surface, drive 500 meters and send back pictures to earth.

The Berlin-based engineering group is called “Part-Time Scientists” and they announced yesterday a deal with Spaceflight Inc., which is basically a ride-sharing company for rockets, to get a space on one of the company’s flights by the end of 2017.

The group announced that the 385,000 km trip to the Moon is expected to be completed with a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket.


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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 04 2016 20:55 GMT
#2107
WASHINGTON — Virgin Galactic’s second SpaceShipTwo performed its first free flight Dec. 3, a glide test that begins the next phase in testing of the commercial suborbital spaceplane.

SpaceShipTwo, named VSS Unity, and its carrier aircraft, WhiteKnightTwo, took off from the Mojave Air and Space Port in California at about 9:50 a.m. Eastern. The spaceplane separated from WhiteKnightTwo at 10:40 a.m. Eastern, gliding back to a runway landing in Mojave ten minutes later, according to updates provided by the company.

At the controls of SpaceShipTwo were David Mackay, Virgin Galactic’s chief pilot, and Mark Stucky, a former Scaled Composites pilot who flew a number of test fights of the first SpaceShipTwo before joining Virgin Galactic in 2015.

“Pilots report excellent flight qualities,” tweeted George Whitesides, chief executive of Virgin Galactic, after the flight. “V[ery] proud of the whole team.”

The glide flight begins the next phase in testing of the long-delayed suborbital vehicle that is ultimately designed to carry space tourists and research payloads to an altitude of about 100 kilometers, exposing them to several minutes of microgravity.

Virgin Galactic had planned to carry out the glide flight Nov. 1, but high winds led flight controllers to keep SpaceShipTwo attached to WhiteKnightTwo, turning the mission into the second “captive carry” test flight of the vehicle, after one in September. A second attempt, Nov. 3, was aborted because of an unspecified technical issue discovered prior to the planned release.

The vehicles took to the air again Nov. 30 on another captive carry flight. “As part of our ground & flight testing, we made a few tweaks to the vehicle,” Virgin Galactic said in a tweet, which were tested on that flight. The company did not disclose the nature of the changes.

The flight is the first in a series of glide flights to test the aerodynamic performance of the vehicle before moving ahead into powered flights. In an interview at the International Symposium for Personal and Commercial Spaceflight in Las Cruces, New Mexico, Oct. 13, Virgin Galactic President Mike Moses said the number of flights will depend on how long it takes to achieve a set of test objectives.

“There’s 10 glide flights’ worth of targets,” he said. “We could do those in 8 flights, or might take 15, but we’re not going into the next phase before we clear those.”

Once completed, SpaceShipTwo will begin a set of powered test flights. The first SpaceShipTwo, named VSS Enterprise, was performing its fourth powered test flight when it crashed in October 2014, killing co-pilot Michael Alsbury and injuring pilot Peter Siebold.

An investigation by the National Transportation Safety Board concluded that the vehicle broke up when Alsbury prematurely unlocked the vehicle’s feathering mechanism, causing the tail section to rise up as the vehicle accelerated through Mach 1. The investigation criticized vehicle developer Scaled Composites for not taking steps to prevent such a premature unlocking and for creating a heavy workload for pilots of the vehicle.

The stand-down after the accident gave Virgin Galactic time to work on the vehicle’s the hybrid rocket motor, whose development had been troubled. “If the spaceship was ready, we could do a powered flight tomorrow,” Moses said in October.


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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
December 12 2016 00:49 GMT
#2108
Probably a non-story but since I don't like SpaceX all that much I'm going to post this, an article that makes a big deal out of the fact that SpaceX no longer claims to be "profitable and cashflow positive."

I have reason to believe they aren't and never have been (see my longer post however much back, and note how intertwined all of Musk's business ventures are), but I do think the result of losing a rocket "on the pad" was really bad for them for multiple reasons.

Also some tidbits of ULA-related news since they pretty much never come up.
Investigation into contract favoritism / breach of contract turns up nothing.
They released a new website called RocketBuilder that allows you to design a rocket for a launch order from ULA with price estimates. It's as much a tool for serious buyers (CEO says he got like ~50 serious inquiries for the site since launch) as a PR venture. It's actually pretty neat if you just want to mess around with what it would cost to launch a rocket.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17486 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-12 04:47:48
December 12 2016 04:43 GMT
#2109
its pretty encouraging that this tool has resulted in the generation of real sales leads. be pretty brutal if some middle manager guy secretly sold those sales leads to SpaceX in a Glengarry Glen Ross move.

looks like the SpaceX delays cost them some revenue.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17486 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-13 22:34:43
December 13 2016 22:33 GMT
#2110
Another delay announced by SpaceX. Pushing manned space flight back...

http://www.wsj.com/articles/spacex-has-delayed-first-manned-nasa-launch-to-2018-from-2017-1481581294?mod=e2tw
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
December 13 2016 22:40 GMT
#2111
Surprise surprise, manned spaceflight isn't so easy that it all goes on schedule.

They should have ordered those Soyuz seats.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12084 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-14 02:32:01
December 14 2016 02:31 GMT
#2112
On December 14 2016 07:40 LegalLord wrote:
Surprise surprise, manned spaceflight isn't so easy that it all goes on schedule.

They should have ordered those Soyuz seats.


They could launch it according to schedule if better casualty rates than in the space rate were accepted. Since no lethality is the wanted outcome it gets delayed. Logical since we have no pressing reason to get people into space right now.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-14 02:35:51
December 14 2016 02:35 GMT
#2113
On December 14 2016 11:31 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2016 07:40 LegalLord wrote:
Surprise surprise, manned spaceflight isn't so easy that it all goes on schedule.

They should have ordered those Soyuz seats.


They could launch it according to schedule if better casualty rates than in the space rate were accepted. Since no lethality is the wanted outcome it gets delayed. Logical since we have no pressing reason to get people into space right now.

I mean, that's part of the major reason why manned spaceflight is so difficult. Casualties are a big no-no there.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17486 Posts
December 14 2016 02:47 GMT
#2114
speaking of how difficult manned space flight is...its the 44th anniversary of the last day humans were more than 400 kilometres off the surface of the earth.



44 years and counting and no end in sight.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17486 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-02 14:26:19
January 02 2017 14:23 GMT
#2115
SpaceX next target date for its next launch is now January 8.

http://www.spacex.com/news/2016/09/01/anomaly-updates

"The accident investigation team ...concluded that one of the three composite overwrapped pressure vessels (COPVs) inside the second stage liquid oxygen (LOX) tank failed."
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24770 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-02 21:15:51
January 02 2017 21:15 GMT
#2116
Any of you know how far in advance NASA announces the next round of astronaut candidate selection? I know they have a new class every ~3-6 years. I think I have a decent (e.g., 5-10%) shot of making it.
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ragnasaur
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States804 Posts
January 02 2017 21:56 GMT
#2117
That's so cool! Good luck! Did you put starcraft on your application?
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24770 Posts
January 02 2017 22:00 GMT
#2118
Oh my point is I want to know when the next round of applications will even be. I don't think that's known yet so I'm just trying to get a grasp for how much lead time there will be.

And no, I don't expect I will need to put anything starcraft-related on an application (not that I frown upon such a thing). My reasoning for thinking I can submit a strong application is based on educational background, work experience, military experience, and flight experience. Of course, it all comes down to what the exact needs of the agency are at that time.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
January 02 2017 22:12 GMT
#2119
Applying to NASA is a real pain in the ass in general. USAJobs is a really annoying system.

The NASA subcontractors (SpaceX, ULA, Boeing, etc.) are much better in that regard.

Last announcement from NASA was about a year ago, so you missed your chance by about 11 months. More info: https://astronauts.nasa.gov/astro_lp.htm
https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/423817000
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24770 Posts
January 02 2017 22:14 GMT
#2120
Yeah I wouldn't be ready for another 2 years anyway (end of military commitment unless I extend somehow). Also, I will need to use USAJobs either way :p

I'm not as familiar with what you are signing up for with the contractors if you go that direction.
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