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Shigy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States346 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-22 11:22:00
December 22 2010 11:17 GMT
#321
On December 22 2010 20:08 xBillehx wrote:After all, the two Koreas really are still at war.



so cliche!

Though I agree that SK has the right to, and reason to conduct these military drills, I think the exercises close to the border the other day was ballsy and dangerous considering NK's promises to retaliate.

War is bad mmk
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6634 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-23 12:26:29
December 23 2010 12:26 GMT
#322
North Korea 'ready for sacred war' with the South
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North Korea is ready for a "sacred war of justice" using the nuclear deterrent, its armed forces minister has said.

Kim Yong-chun said exercises conducted by South Korea near the border were a preparation for war with the North.

The drill is one of the largest in South Korea's history, involving tanks, helicopters and fighter planes.

Tension has been high since North Korea shelled the South's Yeonpyeong island last month, killing four South Koreans.

South Korean President Lee Myung-bak has promised immediate retaliation to any further Northern attack.

The South Korean army acknowledged that the drill was aimed to display its firepower.

Although the South has conducted 47 military drills this year, this is the largest winter live-fire exercise ever conducted on land.
'Military provocation'

The North earlier branded Seoul's exercises "warmongering" but until now had not threatened the South with any retaliation.

During a meeting in the North Korean capital, Mr Kim, quoted by Pyongyang's Korean Central News Agency, accused the South of preparing for a new Korean War.

"The South Korean puppet forces perpetrated such grave military provocation as renewing their shelling against the DPRK [Democratic People's Republic of Korea] during their recent exercises for a war of aggression in the West Sea [Yellow Sea] of Korea," he said.

"This indicates that the enemy's scenario for aggression aimed at the start of another Korean War, has reached the phase of its implementation."

"The revolutionary armed forces of the DPRK are getting fully prepared to launch a sacred war of justice of Korean style based on the nuclear deterrent at anytime necessary to cope with the enemies' actions deliberately pushing the situation to the brink of a war," he added.

Both China and Russia have called on the South to defuse tensions and US officials too are privately expressing their concern about Seoul's new, more aggressive stance.

South Korea and the US had already been conducting large-scale military exercises, following the apparent torpedoing of a South Korean warship by the North on 26 March, which killed 46 south Korean sailors.

Efforts to redirect the Korean issue back to the negotiating table have been unsuccessful.

China and the North say it is time to return to the six-nation talks about North Korea's nuclear programmes.

But the US, South Korea and Japan have said they will not return to such talks, which have previously involved rewards for the North if it cuts back on nuclear development.

North Korea walked out of the six-party talks in April 2009 and expelled UN nuclear inspectors from the country.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12067735

This does not sound good...
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Sawajiri
Profile Joined June 2007
Austria417 Posts
December 23 2010 12:33 GMT
#323
Seriously, I'm getting tired of SK's dick-wagging.

Yeah, you got the bigger one, we got it. Tuck 'em away, boys.

On a serious note, I really just don't think that this is a good idea right now. We called their bluff, and that was the right thing to do, and I supported our president's actions until then - but this just seems like taking it a step too far.

I just don't think dick-wagging is appropriate when tens of millions of citizens' lives depend on your actions.
ch4ppi
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany802 Posts
December 23 2010 13:04 GMT
#324
On December 23 2010 21:33 Sawajiri wrote:
Seriously, I'm getting tired of SK's dick-wagging.

Yeah, you got the bigger one, we got it. Tuck 'em away, boys.

On a serious note, I really just don't think that this is a good idea right now. We called their bluff, and that was the right thing to do, and I supported our president's actions until then - but this just seems like taking it a step too far.

I just don't think dick-wagging is appropriate when tens of millions of citizens' lives depend on your actions.


After what I've heard so far I think ure god damn right.
Well the nuklear thread is pretty scary... I think this has to be toned down by a huge amount to get things straighten up. I dont think there will ever be a diplomatic meeting between your president and the N-Korean leaders.
I hate to say it, but russia and china are doing the right thing in my eyes, they try to keep the waves low..
If a war is going to start I'm really concerned, because this would be the first time a war starts in a country Im really in some way related to. I think the North wouldnt win the war by any messures, but I'm afraid they could kill Alot of people =/
SQUATZ
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom21 Posts
December 23 2010 13:05 GMT
#325
There will never be a full scale conflict.
Lots of strong words and warnings not to provoke.
Lots of military exercises and speculation about the strength and intentions of the North.
Lots of media sensationalism over playing minor issues because it sells.
But this will, never, ever turn into a full scale conflict.

We know this because we know that China wants no part of it, and without China's backing, NK can never take any action.
Everyone else knows this, and you can tell because the stock markets are stable.
If people truly thought that war was likely the markets would show it.

It won't stop the media from scaremongering though, because nobody wants to read that there is no real threat and that everything will be OK.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
December 23 2010 13:15 GMT
#326
On December 23 2010 22:05 SQUATZ wrote:
There will never be a full scale conflict.
Lots of strong words and warnings not to provoke.
Lots of military exercises and speculation about the strength and intentions of the North.
Lots of media sensationalism over playing minor issues because it sells.
But this will, never, ever turn into a full scale conflict.

We know this because we know that China wants no part of it, and without China's backing, NK can never take any action.
Everyone else knows this, and you can tell because the stock markets are stable.
If people truly thought that war was likely the markets would show it.

It won't stop the media from scaremongering though, because nobody wants to read that there is no real threat and that everything will be OK.

except the millions living in s korea and the thousands that have friends/family there?
lol what a douchebag
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
kamikami
Profile Joined November 2010
France1057 Posts
December 23 2010 13:18 GMT
#327
The North shelled the freaking island, therefore they have no right to forbid the South to conduct military drill in the very same island to protect themselves.

Lol at the nuke threat "the sacred war of justice", let's see justice when you get your ass kicked by an alliance of 50 countries with advanced technologies. I really hope someone bring that Kim dictator to justice (i mean jail), he sucks too much.
Khassar de Templari
ch4ppi
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany802 Posts
December 23 2010 13:20 GMT
#328
We know this because we know that China wants no part of it, and without China's backing, NK can never take any action.


Lol, so yeah because Kim is such an intelligent logical thinking leader...and no lunatic fanatic?

except the millions living in s korea and the thousands that have friends/family there?
lol what a douchebag

+1 I couldnt agree more
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3006 Posts
December 23 2010 13:38 GMT
#329
North Korea is putting up a one heck of a show, and I'm surprised so many people are taking them seriously. Nuclear war? haha. If anyone believes that, they may just as well believe Kim Il sung and Kim Jung Il are gods and not human beings. Just another day of tough talks from North Korea. The ironic thing is, as crazy as Kim Jung Il may be, as long as he is alive, there will be no full scale war. Just my thoughts though.
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
TheBJ
Profile Joined March 2010
Bulgaria906 Posts
December 23 2010 13:42 GMT
#330
Why is this even a discussion? Its obvious its all propaganda , keep people scared , make them fear for their life / homes and they will not even consider how bad they have it in north korea. Make the south look like the bad guys stops the temptation.
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ch4ppi
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany802 Posts
December 23 2010 13:49 GMT
#331
The ironic thing is, as crazy as Kim Jung Il may be, as long as he is alive, there will be no full scale war.

Where is your argument for that conclusion?

Why is this even a discussion? Its obvious its all propaganda , keep people scared , make them fear for their life / homes and they will not even consider how bad they have it in north korea. Make the south look like the bad guys stops the temptation.


Sure its propaganda, Cpt. Obvious.
But propaganda doesnt equal a bluff or passive mode...
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3006 Posts
December 23 2010 13:56 GMT
#332
On December 23 2010 22:49 ch4ppi wrote:
Show nested quote +
The ironic thing is, as crazy as Kim Jung Il may be, as long as he is alive, there will be no full scale war.

Where is your argument for that conclusion?


I have no arguments, just thoughts. North Korea wants stability of their regime. War does exactly opposite of that. But a threat of war is just enough to achieve internal stability. At least in a totalitarian state like North Korea. If North Korea starts a war, they are saying we don't care if our regime falls. I don't see that happening as long as Kim Jong Il is in charge. Now if he dies, and his young and inexperience son takes over, thats when hell can be unleashed. Again, just my thoughts.
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
SQUATZ
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom21 Posts
December 23 2010 14:01 GMT
#333
On December 23 2010 22:15 HeavOnEarth wrote:
except the millions living in s korea and the thousands that have friends/family there?
lol what a douchebag


What I mean is that stories that everything is OK do not capture the public's attention, the media will always spin things to make the situation look worse than it actually is.
And I like that the last line is all you took away from my post.

On December 23 2010 22:20 ch4ppi wrote:
Lol, so yeah because Kim is such an intelligent logical thinking leader...and no lunatic fanatic?


Yeah bro, that Team America documentary really showed his true colours.
Shigy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States346 Posts
December 23 2010 20:03 GMT
#334
I like this article from the Chosun

http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2010/03/18/2010031800956.html


I think that the political atmosphere in NK following Kim senior's death will be CWAAAZY. If nothing comes of all this drama we're watching now, something (internally at the least) will happen with North Korea when Kim senior dies.
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