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On December 09 2010 04:29 Slaughter wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2010 04:20 ZeroCartin wrote:On December 09 2010 04:18 Slaughter wrote:
Assange is an asshole and so are his followers apparently. Why is he an asshole again? Have you ever seen the guy speak? Hes not some Jesus figure doing this because its good like everyone likes to spew. He does this because it fucking gets him off. Hes just a jackass looking to get off on causing chaos.
He also rapes women, eats childrens, and hates the U S of A, yeah, we heard it before.
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On December 09 2010 04:29 Slaughter wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2010 04:20 ZeroCartin wrote:On December 09 2010 04:18 Slaughter wrote:
Assange is an asshole and so are his followers apparently. Why is he an asshole again? Have you ever seen the guy speak? Hes not some Jesus figure doing this because its good like everyone likes to spew. He does this because it fucking gets him off. Hes just a jackass looking to get off on causing chaos.
Thats the most retarded thing I've ever heard.
Bill Gates is such a fucking asshole, he just gets off by helping people and donatin lul, its how he gets his kicks.
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Actions have consequences.
What goes around, comes around.
Eye for an eye.
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On December 09 2010 03:53 semantics wrote:
@Krigwin
But pertaining to this thread what about those who support anonymous' actions, that is justifiable that those supports can fall into that category. A group is measured by their most vocal and active part not by their majority. It may sound odd but that is what people pay attention to.
No, it's not justifiable and it's fallacy by association. I don't measure all religious people by the Westboro Baptist Church. Maybe you do. Maybe you think it's "justifiable", but don't speak for all of us. In fact if you do think that, then just don't speak at all, judging from the fallacies, untruths, and plain falsehoods you've spewed all over this thread I think we'd all be for the better.
For instance, claiming that Wikileaks has commited some crime. Even the Justice Department is having a hard time making that claim, so I don't know where you're basing those accusations from. Or thinking that receiving information is somehow an illegal act. That's so bizarre I'm not even sure how that's supposed to make sense in the first place.
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I really admire the guy and I think he serves the people of the world thro his work on wikileaks, and so does anon, creating the fear of "popular" backlash against NGO underdogs.
This is the age of information and we are seeing a high tech virtual war over information.
To Anon, attacking wikileaks is like attacking switzerland, they are neutral, its a friggin crime, and something must be done to it.
And im sure all MS users and shareholders and very sad their website is down, well im glad, I like to see a circus on fire, too bad we dont have many of these recently.
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On December 09 2010 04:30 TurpinOS wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2010 04:29 Slaughter wrote:On December 09 2010 04:20 ZeroCartin wrote:On December 09 2010 04:18 Slaughter wrote:
Assange is an asshole and so are his followers apparently. Why is he an asshole again? Have you ever seen the guy speak? Hes not some Jesus figure doing this because its good like everyone likes to spew. He does this because it fucking gets him off. Hes just a jackass looking to get off on causing chaos. He also rapes women, eats childrens, and hates the U S of A, yeah, we heard it before.
He's a journalist who believes in an idea firmly, and is wanted for publishing stuff not meant to the public with an excuse for "rape" on Sweden *which I believe to be complete bullshit*.
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On December 09 2010 04:46 ZeroCartin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2010 04:30 TurpinOS wrote:On December 09 2010 04:29 Slaughter wrote:On December 09 2010 04:20 ZeroCartin wrote:On December 09 2010 04:18 Slaughter wrote:
Assange is an asshole and so are his followers apparently. Why is he an asshole again? Have you ever seen the guy speak? Hes not some Jesus figure doing this because its good like everyone likes to spew. He does this because it fucking gets him off. Hes just a jackass looking to get off on causing chaos. He also rapes women, eats childrens, and hates the U S of A, yeah, we heard it before. He's a journalist who believes in an idea firmly, and is wanted for publishing stuff not meant to the public with an excuse for "rape" on Sweden *which I believe to be complete bullshit*.
This was sarcasm....
(In reply to what the other guy spooting nonsense about Assange getting high off pissing people)
The accusations of rape in Sweden shouldnt really be brought up in this topic, when I typed it I knew I might be making a mistakes (because I knew some people would bring it up)
I was not saying that I think he didnt rape these women, that I dont know, the justice will decide, I was just trying to make an ''general uninformed statement'' to continue in the other guys line of thought.
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Hmm is this how the future populace will rebel? Rather than physically rebelling (completely outmatched), cyber rebelling? Cool 
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On December 08 2010 22:30 qwaykee wrote:
i love how they call scriptkiddies hackers
This guy clearly has little to no clue what he's talking about... 4chan is the last thing I'd wanna mess with on internet, and there's a lot of shit on internet.
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On December 09 2010 04:51 TurpinOS wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2010 04:46 ZeroCartin wrote:On December 09 2010 04:30 TurpinOS wrote:On December 09 2010 04:29 Slaughter wrote:On December 09 2010 04:20 ZeroCartin wrote:On December 09 2010 04:18 Slaughter wrote:
Assange is an asshole and so are his followers apparently. Why is he an asshole again? Have you ever seen the guy speak? Hes not some Jesus figure doing this because its good like everyone likes to spew. He does this because it fucking gets him off. Hes just a jackass looking to get off on causing chaos. He also rapes women, eats childrens, and hates the U S of A, yeah, we heard it before. He's a journalist who believes in an idea firmly, and is wanted for publishing stuff not meant to the public with an excuse for "rape" on Sweden *which I believe to be complete bullshit*. This was sarcasm.... (In reply to what the other guy spooting nonsense about Assange getting high off pissing people) The accusations of rape in Sweden shouldnt really be brought up in this topic, when I typed it I knew I might be making a mistakes (because I knew some people would bring it up) I was not saying that I think he didnt rape these women, that I dont know, the justice will decide, I was just trying to make an ''general uninformed statement'' to continue in the other guys line of thought.
I am sorry, I was referring to Slaughter not you  I knew your comment was sarcasm
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On December 09 2010 04:52 CanucksJC wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2010 22:30 qwaykee wrote:
i love how they call scriptkiddies hackers This guy clearly has little to no clue what he's talking about... 4chan is the last thing I'd wanna mess with on internet, and there's a lot of shit on internet.
4chan will go to such lengths as closing down a site! Be afraid! Be very, very afraid!
4chan is so overrated, they do a few things here and there, nothing special, and they think of themselves as defenders of freedom or something. Considering the kind of stuff posted on 4chan i'm surprised they havent closed down their own site yet.
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Lol this thread just proves that there is a lot of ignorance going on and we need institutions like wikileaks to remove all of that ignorance.
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On December 09 2010 03:30 BeJe77 wrote:
As for people justifying the DDOS attacks as not doing any harm, they ARE doing harm. They are blocking a SERVICE that thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands use EVERY day to perform transactions. If you block people from doing transactions, it means company loses money. Same way if they were to DDOS Amazon, the company would be losing money as it's business is a ONLINE service.
Of course it does harm, but MasterCard is nothing like Amazon. They aren't peddling wares online. Point of Service transactions are still working normally; the only thing that might be down is people's ability to pay bills or check information status. It's unclear if people are unable to use MasterCard payments from other sites, but one would imagine that they keep their verification services separate from their front end.
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On December 09 2010 04:58 Deadlyfish wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2010 04:52 CanucksJC wrote:On December 08 2010 22:30 qwaykee wrote:
i love how they call scriptkiddies hackers This guy clearly has little to no clue what he's talking about... 4chan is the last thing I'd wanna mess with on internet, and there's a lot of shit on internet. 4chan will go to such lengths as closing down a site! Be afraid! Be very, very afraid! .
I dont think you fully undestand the potential destruction that could be created from closing down a website, especially with the current tensions in the economy.
Some companies could lose millions of dollars if their website got closed for a day or two.
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On December 09 2010 04:58 Deadlyfish wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2010 04:52 CanucksJC wrote:On December 08 2010 22:30 qwaykee wrote:
i love how they call scriptkiddies hackers This guy clearly has little to no clue what he's talking about... 4chan is the last thing I'd wanna mess with on internet, and there's a lot of shit on internet. 4chan will go to such lengths as closing down a site! Be afraid! Be very, very afraid! 4chan is so overrated, they do a few things here and there, nothing special, and they think of themselves as defenders of freedom or something. Considering the kind of stuff posted on 4chan i'm surprised they havent closed down their own site yet.
4chan nowadays are filled with retards and social outcasts, but among them, there are ppl that know what they're doing. You obviously haven't been around ~5 years ago, I don't think you know how many people's lives they fucked over.
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On December 09 2010 05:02 Craton wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2010 03:30 BeJe77 wrote:
As for people justifying the DDOS attacks as not doing any harm, they ARE doing harm. They are blocking a SERVICE that thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands use EVERY day to perform transactions. If you block people from doing transactions, it means company loses money. Same way if they were to DDOS Amazon, the company would be losing money as it's business is a ONLINE service. Of course it does harm, but MasterCard is nothing like Amazon. They aren't peddling wares online. Point of Service transactions are still working normally; the only thing that might be down is people's ability to pay bills or check information status. It's unclear if people are unable to use MasterCard payments from other sites, but one would imagine that they keep their verification services separate from their front end.
MasterCard stated that online transactions should not be affected. Presumably their website being down only affects the ability of people to access the services provided on that website. And I imagine there is no effect whatsoever on MasterCard transactions in the real world. People are really exaggerating the damages caused by Anonymous here. I'd be more concerned with PayPal being down than any of these other websites.
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i find it strange how people have started to rally around wikileaks. it's a nice resource sure but i don't think many people understand how it can also be extremely dangerous. classified information remains classified for a reason, sometimes it's because of corruption or sometimes it can just be embarrassing information. on the other hand, the information that is being leaked and also endanger lives and cause international instability. leaking that china doesn't see n.korea as a particularly useful ally sounds great but things like that that are said in private between china and another country shouldn't just be out there because some asshole decides everyone needs to know the "truth".
i remember once wikileaks even leaked it's own donors list and people we lauding it for staying true to the purpose of the site. to me that sounds really retarded because it can directly compromise peoples' lives if say some totalitarian government decided it didn't like you doing that because wikileaks reveals confidential information about it.
truth isn't some omnipotent all curing concept. sometimes truth has consequences.
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Julian Assange is overrated. He is just normal news with the tag "government secrets" attached to it.
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On December 09 2010 03:52 BeJe77 wrote:
Excellent point my friend, I have yet to see any leaks on other countries. So far it's just one nation being singled out in the fire.
I don't think you've been following Wikileaks for very long. Wikileaks has leaked massive amounts of documents from other nations besides The United States of America.
A simple perusal of Wikipedia's article on Wikileaks proves this to be true.
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On December 09 2010 04:58 Deadlyfish wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2010 04:52 CanucksJC wrote:On December 08 2010 22:30 qwaykee wrote:
i love how they call scriptkiddies hackers This guy clearly has little to no clue what he's talking about... 4chan is the last thing I'd wanna mess with on internet, and there's a lot of shit on internet. 4chan will go to such lengths as closing down a site! Be afraid! Be very, very afraid! 4chan is so overrated, they do a few things here and there, nothing special, and they think of themselves as defenders of freedom or something. Considering the kind of stuff posted on 4chan i'm surprised they havent closed down their own site yet.
You clearly don't know what you're talking about. What about that woman who IN A VIDEO, without any tags or leading name, kicked a cat. They found her from the footage and ruined her life for a month lol.
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