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Krikkitone
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1451 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-13 22:24:44
December 13 2010 22:24 GMT
#381
On December 14 2010 05:36 furymonkey wrote:
Anarchy means no or hardly any governament, different to a uncontrolled governament. I don't support uncontrolled governament either, but you simply dont need to sacrifice one for another.

Parliament are responsible for making sure the governament to maintain accountability, so the system is already in place.


I agree that you can have some government without it being uncontrolled, but your second sentence is Really funny... satire.. trolling?

Parliament are responsible for making sure the governament to maintain accountability, so the system is already in place

Let's see if i can Ilustrate it

Enron are responsible for making sure the Enronto maintain accountability, so the system is already in place.

Yes that worked reall well.


"You can trust me"..Why?
Because I say you can trust me
And you can trust me

Unless "Parliament" =/="Government" then you have problems.
furymonkey
Profile Joined December 2008
New Zealand1587 Posts
December 13 2010 22:45 GMT
#382
Sorry I didn't make it clear, the governament I was referring to is the people whoes in power, people who are running the office.

Since not all parliament members are from the same party, you'll find them question officials whenver they can. Parliament members are also elected by people, so the proportion of the parliament members who support are also some indication what about public wants.

You can always take your issue up to your local MPs, and that's how they work, a representative of the people. They are tasked to keep the ones who is running the office in check.
Leenock the Punisher
Krikkitone
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1451 Posts
December 13 2010 22:58 GMT
#383
On December 14 2010 07:45 furymonkey wrote:
Sorry I didn't make it clear, the governament I was referring to is the people whoes in power, people who are running the office.

Since not all parliament members are from the same party, you'll find them question officials whenver they can. Parliament members are also elected by people, so the proportion of the parliament members who support are also some indication what about public wants.

You can always take your issue up to your local MPs, and that's how they work, a representative of the people. They are tasked to keep the ones who is running the office in check.



Admittedly having a multiparty system helps... as would a proper division of power ie a "President" not selected by Parliament.

However, some parts of government hide secrets from other parts, concentrating the power.
gslavik
Profile Joined August 2010
United States72 Posts
December 15 2010 12:15 GMT
#384
On December 10 2010 01:02 Zocat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2010 13:50 gslavik wrote:
Just a note, but mastercard.com does not affect Mastercard's ability to process credit card transactions.


Only semi-true. Sure - offline cc transactions are unaffected, but their SecureCode service is (was) affected - which (some) people use for online transactions. (Source: http://blog.securetrading.com/2010/12/mastercard-securecode-update-2/ )


About the German (Angela Merkel) discussion:
I (and all people I know) dont really care what American diplomats think about her. I think it's normal, that each government has a file/opinion about person X. What we do care about is the "additional" information - like Westerwelle (our foreign minister) saying "I will tell everything from my meetings with diplomats form Iran/China to the USA".
But this has nothing to do with the USA - but with the credibility of our minister. And those actions (giving away diplomatic information to the USA) are really really troubling.


I can't really speak much about securecode, but I can tell you this: Mastercard team responsible for making sure that mastercard.com and securecode are working was aware of every step they were taking.
"I am infallible, you should know that by now." --Dogbert
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