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On November 23 2010 18:20 onewingedmoogle wrote:
is china not friendly with north korea? and ive always been thinking that aside from the westerner countries the rest of the world is somewhat neutral towards them (im thinking of russia when i say this)
China is friendly with NK but they do not like NK when they do stupid things like this WITHOUT giving them any info. A few years back, the Chinese government went mad cause NK tested nuclear weps without telling them and it took quite a long time to rebuild their relationship.
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On November 23 2010 18:24 DarthXX wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2010 18:20 GotterdamerunG wrote:On November 23 2010 18:18 VorcePA wrote:On November 23 2010 18:13 CNugent wrote:
The numbers of US army in SK is just meaningless. They are more like a symbol that the US will help SK if they are attacked. 50,000 US troops means a lot more than troops from anywhere else. The technology and training of a US soldier is superior to most other countries. The UK is probably their only real competitor. yeah please turn this thread into "which country's soldier is the best" thread I'm reasonably certain its a fairly commonly accepted view that Israel's soldiers are the best of any military in the world. While most of their gear is supplied by the US, they have (at least on a per soldier basis) the most combat experience due to constant clashes in the middle east. Correct me if I'm mistaken.
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They think that this was caused because of the military training going on in the island, and they retaliated towards that. They are waiting for a release from north korea
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Oh God dammit Al Jazeera is moving away from NK/SK news. :\
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On November 23 2010 18:24 Z3kk wrote:I'm pretty sure that that source is inaccurate. I doubt there's any way to even know that tidbit of information unless nk somehow announced that.
That twitter is obviously attention whoring expecting some sort of profiteering to be posted there once they hit a high number of followers.
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This seems to happen every few years, wasn't there just something about a submarine or a naval something or another? And then a few years before that there were nuclear tests, basically the Korean War has been about to resume for at least 10 years.
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just look at the twitter account you are citing, his website is a tumblr account and most of the news posted on his twitter account prior to all this is garbage or gossip
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God I hope no one important follows that twitter (livenewswire)... and what if someone at BBC starts retweeting it if they don't have Korean speakers watching MBC constantly like Team Liquid does? BBC is already retweeting other random people... I wonder if it is secretly run by a government or is run by some internet prankster trying to cause a war? Surely some people are going to retweet those tweets and cause a problem somewhere.
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On November 23 2010 17:30 Bshad wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2010 17:24 mustaju wrote:On November 23 2010 17:22 Gummy wrote:On November 23 2010 17:21 Bshad wrote:
So far it looks like the only country that would benefit from this conflict is US. God Bless America? :\ Yes, because it's military forces are not already spread out, and because war is so popular there. Really, everyone actually loses. My condolences to the people afraid for their lives in Korea right now. Nah actually if the war starts China will have to divert a lot resources towards defend from possible invasion from US. So China will surely wont be as much of economical superpower as it is now. US wins.
On the other hand mobilizing troops and carrying out military operations cost money. The US economy is already a mess from having to fight two wars. A third was would probably throw us into another Great Depression... Not that we would even have the manpower available to allocate into such an effort. Our forces are spread far too thin.
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On November 23 2010 18:20 jstar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2010 18:15 DystopiaX wrote:On November 23 2010 18:12 Z3kk wrote:
Oh lord this is reminding me about that one video game, home front or something, in an extremely horrendous and twisted way... Isn't that the game about NK taking over Asian then invading the US? Seems in poor taste now... So the US is releasing a statement? Any word on when that will be released? The backstory of that game is so ridiculous it's virtually impossible to happen. 2011: North Korea's weapons program grows significantly, leading to sanctions by the UN 2012: Kim Jong-il dies. He is succeeded by his son Kim Jong-un 2013: Kim Jong-un reunites North Korea and South Korea 2015: Gas prices rise to $20 a gallon in the United States, destabilizing the country 2017: The US Dollar collapses and the US Military begins to downgrade its foreign presence 2018: Japan surrenders to the Greater Korean Republic, forming an 'alliance' (i.e. being capitalized into a vassal state of sorts) 2022: The United States' economic system collapses totally 2024: Koreans annex many nations in East Asia 2025: GKR attacks the US 2025: An EMP hidden in a communications satellite is used to completely disable US infrastructure 2025: GKR forces seize Hawaii 2025: Cyber attack takes down hardened sites 2025: Korean troops control San Francisco 2026: US military is scattered Events happening in 2013 and 2015 is impossible to happen, and where is China, Russia, EU? Did they just dissapear?
I guess the whole scenario is a weeeee-bit weird.
One question tho: What brings you to the conclusion that gas price wont rise over $20 a gallon? Some restrictions by Russia OR U.A.E. can quickly lead to a dramatic downfall in supplies of gas, leading to an explosion of prices, so this doesnt seem impossible to me. (Especially having in the back of your head that the countries with the biggest populations on earth (India and China) get more and more Cars / Citizen, with a not really saturated market waiting)
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Hmm..the idea of WW3 is not so weird anymore. think about it: What if China will help North Korea, both being communist states, and US will help SK? a war between communism and capitalism again?
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No planes or boats allowed in the area - MBC
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On November 23 2010 18:18 VorcePA wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2010 18:13 CNugent wrote:
The numbers of US army in SK is just meaningless. They are more like a symbol that the US will help SK if they are attacked. 50,000 US troops means a lot more than troops from anywhere else. The technology and training of a US soldier is superior to most other countries. The UK is probably their only real competitor.
50,000 US troops in SK are not special force. They are regular army/marines stationed there. CNugent is right. US presence on the border is just a symbol.
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The last thing I'd rely on is a twitter feed. Twitter news articles should be taken with a pinch of salt.
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Except a war will never happen with the current potential of nuclear weapons.
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On November 23 2010 18:27 theuser wrote:
Hmm..the idea of WW3 is not so weird anymore. think about it: What if China will help North Korea, both being communist states, and US will help SK? a war between communism and capitalism again?
china does not want to help NK start a war
china hopes to maintain status quo, which means peace, and they will stay out of conflict if it occurs
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On November 23 2010 18:27 FetTerBender wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2010 18:20 jstar wrote:On November 23 2010 18:15 DystopiaX wrote:On November 23 2010 18:12 Z3kk wrote:
Oh lord this is reminding me about that one video game, home front or something, in an extremely horrendous and twisted way... Isn't that the game about NK taking over Asian then invading the US? Seems in poor taste now... So the US is releasing a statement? Any word on when that will be released? The backstory of that game is so ridiculous it's virtually impossible to happen. 2011: North Korea's weapons program grows significantly, leading to sanctions by the UN 2012: Kim Jong-il dies. He is succeeded by his son Kim Jong-un 2013: Kim Jong-un reunites North Korea and South Korea 2015: Gas prices rise to $20 a gallon in the United States, destabilizing the country 2017: The US Dollar collapses and the US Military begins to downgrade its foreign presence 2018: Japan surrenders to the Greater Korean Republic, forming an 'alliance' (i.e. being capitalized into a vassal state of sorts) 2022: The United States' economic system collapses totally 2024: Koreans annex many nations in East Asia 2025: GKR attacks the US 2025: An EMP hidden in a communications satellite is used to completely disable US infrastructure 2025: GKR forces seize Hawaii 2025: Cyber attack takes down hardened sites 2025: Korean troops control San Francisco 2026: US military is scattered Events happening in 2013 and 2015 is impossible to happen, and where is China, Russia, EU? Did they just dissapear? I guess the whole scenario is a weeeee-bit weird. One question tho: What brings you to the conclusion that gas price wont rise over $20 a gallon? Some restrictions by Russia OR U.A.E. can quickly lead to a dramatic downfall in supplies of gas, leading to an explosion of prices, so this doesnt seem impossible to me. (Especially having in the back of your head that the countries with the biggest populations on earth (India and China) get more and more Cars / Citizen, with a not really saturated market waiting)
But they won't because their economies are economically dependant on the sale of oil/gas, so doing so would be like committing economic suicide, even if you keep the Asian market in mind we make such a large percentage of sales that it wouldn't make sense.
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On November 23 2010 18:21 VorcePA wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2010 18:20 GotterdamerunG wrote:On November 23 2010 18:18 VorcePA wrote:On November 23 2010 18:13 CNugent wrote:
The numbers of US army in SK is just meaningless. They are more like a symbol that the US will help SK if they are attacked. 50,000 US troops means a lot more than troops from anywhere else. The technology and training of a US soldier is superior to most other countries. The UK is probably their only real competitor. yeah please turn this thread into "which country's soldier is the best" My point was to emphasize the idea that 50,000 troops isn't meaningless. But you can go ahead and do that, if you want.
It's not meaningless but strength in US army is more from logistics than individual soldiers. Air dominance, inteligence control are the most important. Many countries have well trained soldiers.
In Arghanistan/Iraq US had dominance in everything. NK is different. US army would roll over NK but 50k soldiers with their limited equipment + SK wouldn't have near the advantage that US had in Middle East.
Still, I don't think there will be a war...it's very unlikely. SK doesn't want a war and NK is kinda nuts but I don't think they would step over the line of no return.
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On November 23 2010 18:27 theuser wrote:
Hmm..the idea of WW3 is not so weird anymore. think about it: What if China will help North Korea, both being communist states, and US will help SK? a war between communism and capitalism again?
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