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Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
November 23 2010 09:19 GMT
#701
AAAaaaand BBC decides they don't have enough facts to report and starts retweeting things. Does anyone care about journalism anymore?
DarthXX
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia998 Posts
November 23 2010 09:19 GMT
#702
Goddamnit I have a Classical Studies exam tomorrow but I don't want to miss any of the shit that goes down but its coming up on 11pm ><
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
November 23 2010 09:19 GMT
#703
On November 23 2010 18:15 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 18:12 Z3kk wrote:
Oh lord this is reminding me about that one video game, home front or something, in an extremely horrendous and twisted way...

Isn't that the game about NK taking over Asian then invading the US? Seems in poor taste now...

So the US is releasing a statement? Any word on when that will be released?


Yeah, definitely extremely poor taste and timing given these circumstances now.
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
November 23 2010 09:19 GMT
#704
why the fuck did they just show this TL thread on the stream o_0 lol i saw my own post :S
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
LOLtex
Profile Joined September 2010
United States148 Posts
November 23 2010 09:19 GMT
#705
On November 23 2010 18:16 DarthXX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 18:12 Bshad wrote:
On November 23 2010 18:10 Pika Chu wrote:
This is very bad news, has anyone any idea of what NK's motives are? They can't just attack out of the sudden.

I hope this does ends asap, this is very bad for the korean people.

Its funny that in 34 pages pretty much noone talked about cause of attack and noone really gives a shit.
Everyone is just happy for getting a chance to poke NK with a stick and say "Bad NK!".


I've been giving this a great deal of thought actually, there seems to be no real logical reason for attacking. NK cannot win a war, and they must know this, they may be part of tyrranical reigime but they are not stupid. Then again given recent events I am inclined to think otherwise (sinking a freaking BOAT???) My money is on some kind of interal dispute, perhaps the leadership is splintering or something along these lines.

But hey I'm just a poster on an internet forum and don't expect my opinion to be given any weight at all. Regardless of the cause this is still a very very bad situation.


There's a few reasons why NK would do this. They need to reassure their citizens that they do have some relevance in the world (via propaganda), they might be changing from Kim Jong Il to his son, they might be doing this solely because they don't like their southern brethren and they've gotten away with this for years, etc.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
November 23 2010 09:20 GMT
#706
On November 23 2010 18:17 BraveGhost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 18:12 Bshad wrote:
On November 23 2010 18:10 Pika Chu wrote:
This is very bad news, has anyone any idea of what NK's motives are? They can't just attack out of the sudden.

I hope this does ends asap, this is very bad for the korean people.

Its funny that in 34 pages pretty much noone talked about cause of attack and noone really gives a shit.
Everyone is just happy for getting a chance to poke NK with a stick and say "Bad NK!".


North Korea "misunderstood" routine(so I assume, normal), naval/military drills nearby the island. This is my understanding of the cause of the attack, so don't quote me

that's more of an excuse than anything, they were aware of the drills and they happen anually.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
November 23 2010 09:20 GMT
#707
On November 23 2010 18:19 SmoKim wrote:
why the fuck did they just show this TL thread on the stream o_0 lol i saw my own post :S

i showed it lol
POGGERS
GotterdamerunG
Profile Joined November 2010
28 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-23 09:21:23
November 23 2010 09:20 GMT
#708
On November 23 2010 18:18 VorcePA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 18:13 CNugent wrote:
The numbers of US army in SK is just meaningless. They are more like a symbol that the US will help SK if they are attacked.


50,000 US troops means a lot more than troops from anywhere else. The technology and training of a US soldier is superior to most other countries. The UK is probably their only real competitor.


yeah please turn this thread into "which country's soldier is the best" thread
Runsta
Profile Joined March 2008
United States161 Posts
November 23 2010 09:20 GMT
#709
On November 23 2010 18:10 Pika Chu wrote:
This is very bad news, has anyone any idea of what NK's motives are? They can't just attack out of the sudden.

I hope this does ends asap, this is very bad for the korean people.


Good luck getting any motive from the western media. Despite the accepted truth by all international relations experts that all governments are inherently rational on the international stage, it does not help make your case that the other side is evil and you are the "defender of justice" to the people of a democracy.
Blobskillz
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany548 Posts
November 23 2010 09:20 GMT
#710
On November 23 2010 18:17 BraveGhost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 18:12 Bshad wrote:
On November 23 2010 18:10 Pika Chu wrote:
This is very bad news, has anyone any idea of what NK's motives are? They can't just attack out of the sudden.

I hope this does ends asap, this is very bad for the korean people.

Its funny that in 34 pages pretty much noone talked about cause of attack and noone really gives a shit.
Everyone is just happy for getting a chance to poke NK with a stick and say "Bad NK!".


North Korea "misunderstood" routine(so I assume, normal), naval/military drills nearby the island. This is my understanding of the cause of the attack, so don't quote me



ye but a look on the map would show you that the island where the SK were holding their Naval drill was like directly in front of the NK border. So it's quite likely that they thought it could be an invasion.

and even if they didnt it was clearly a provocation by SK holding this drill so close to the border.
jstar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada568 Posts
November 23 2010 09:20 GMT
#711
On November 23 2010 18:15 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 18:12 Z3kk wrote:
Oh lord this is reminding me about that one video game, home front or something, in an extremely horrendous and twisted way...

Isn't that the game about NK taking over Asian then invading the US? Seems in poor taste now...

So the US is releasing a statement? Any word on when that will be released?


The backstory of that game is so ridiculous it's virtually impossible to happen.

2011: North Korea's weapons program grows significantly, leading to sanctions by the UN
2012: Kim Jong-il dies. He is succeeded by his son Kim Jong-un
2013: Kim Jong-un reunites North Korea and South Korea
2015: Gas prices rise to $20 a gallon in the United States, destabilizing the country
2017: The US Dollar collapses and the US Military begins to downgrade its foreign presence
2018: Japan surrenders to the Greater Korean Republic, forming an 'alliance' (i.e. being capitalized into a vassal state of sorts)
2022: The United States' economic system collapses totally
2024: Koreans annex many nations in East Asia
2025: GKR attacks the US
2025: An EMP hidden in a communications satellite is used to completely disable US infrastructure
2025: GKR forces seize Hawaii
2025: Cyber attack takes down hardened sites
2025: Korean troops control San Francisco
2026: US military is scattered

Events happening in 2013 and 2015 is impossible to happen, and where is China, Russia, EU? Did they just dissapear?

onewingedmoogle
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada434 Posts
November 23 2010 09:20 GMT
#712
is china not friendly with north korea? and ive always been thinking that aside from the westerner countries the rest of the world is somewhat neutral towards them (im thinking of russia when i say this)
Zim23
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1681 Posts
November 23 2010 09:20 GMT
#713
It will take an enormous amount of naked aggression to cause a war between these two countries. All the rhetoric aside, no one really wants open war. The casualties on both sides would be astronomical and tragic. It might not sound very reassuring but the fact remains that leaders on both sides (at least the SK side) will do everything in their power to avoid war.

Usually these actions by NK are due to internal political maneuvering. It's sad but they know exactly how much they can do without actually provoking war, and because the government controls all media sources they can show pictures and pretend it was some major victory in order to make someone (probably the new heir apparent) look good. It's just shitty that people die for bullshit politics.
Do an arranged marriage if she's not completely minging, and don't worry about dancing, get a go-kart, cheers.
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
November 23 2010 09:20 GMT
#714
On November 23 2010 18:20 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 18:19 SmoKim wrote:
why the fuck did they just show this TL thread on the stream o_0 lol i saw my own post :S

i showed it lol


oh thank fucking god, i had the biggest "WTF" second there :3
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
_KiM_
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada498 Posts
November 23 2010 09:21 GMT
#715
All korean police are on high alert, and waiting on orders - MBC
VorcePA
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1102 Posts
November 23 2010 09:21 GMT
#716
On November 23 2010 18:20 GotterdamerunG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 18:18 VorcePA wrote:
On November 23 2010 18:13 CNugent wrote:
The numbers of US army in SK is just meaningless. They are more like a symbol that the US will help SK if they are attacked.


50,000 US troops means a lot more than troops from anywhere else. The technology and training of a US soldier is superior to most other countries. The UK is probably their only real competitor.


yeah please turn this thread into "which country's soldier is the best"


My point was to emphasize the idea that 50,000 troops isn't meaningless. But you can go ahead and do that, if you want.
Shitposting
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
November 23 2010 09:21 GMT
#717
On November 23 2010 18:13 CNugent wrote:
The numbers of US army in SK is just meaningless. They are more like a symbol that the US will help SK if they are attacked.


Except that the US and SK already have made detailed plans on countermeasures and assault strikes to take in case of a NK invasion or escalation of war? That the United States are the ones that have done joint military amphibious landing simulations to prepare for such an issue? You're crazy if you think the US doesn't give a shit about NK or wouldn't do something if NK attacked. NK might be outdated in tech but they still have nukes and even basic artillery shelling was estimated to be able to cause of 7 million casualties to Seoul alone.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
November 23 2010 09:21 GMT
#718
On November 23 2010 18:20 Blobskillz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 18:17 BraveGhost wrote:
On November 23 2010 18:12 Bshad wrote:
On November 23 2010 18:10 Pika Chu wrote:
This is very bad news, has anyone any idea of what NK's motives are? They can't just attack out of the sudden.

I hope this does ends asap, this is very bad for the korean people.

Its funny that in 34 pages pretty much noone talked about cause of attack and noone really gives a shit.
Everyone is just happy for getting a chance to poke NK with a stick and say "Bad NK!".


North Korea "misunderstood" routine(so I assume, normal), naval/military drills nearby the island. This is my understanding of the cause of the attack, so don't quote me



ye but a look on the map would show you that the island where the SK were holding their Naval drill was like directly in front of the NK border. So it's quite likely that they thought it could be an invasion.

and even if they didnt it was clearly a provocation by SK holding this drill so close to the border.

No it's not a provocation...they do this drill every year. NK is aware of this.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
November 23 2010 09:21 GMT
#719
On November 23 2010 18:19 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
AAAaaaand BBC decides they don't have enough facts to report and starts retweeting things. Does anyone care about journalism anymore?


Well... I don't know much about journalism, but how do you propose they get more facts than us with such a limited amount of time? I'm not saying it isn't possible, but I definitely understand having to wait on more information.
Macabre
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1262 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-23 09:25:10
November 23 2010 09:21 GMT
#720
edit -- bad source!
Those who know how to think need no teachers. Tasteless - I think I'll take my shirt off and let my muscles do the casting
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