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Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
November 23 2010 08:35 GMT
#521
Well this sure isn't looking good.

I can't believe they let them bomb SK like this.

Sounds like war this time tbh.
CNugent
Profile Joined November 2010
Korea (South)15 Posts
November 23 2010 08:35 GMT
#522
No one likes this stupid situation.. at least in SK. This attack is probably the most serious provocation in the last 20 years. This is much more serious than NK sinking a SK frigate in April.
Magus
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada450 Posts
November 23 2010 08:36 GMT
#523
On November 23 2010 17:35 Raisauce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 17:29 jinorazi wrote:
http://www.livestation.com/products/32?quality=65


Mine ended, anymore links?! Pleaseee!!

Al Jazeera stream is farther up the page.
_KiM_
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada498 Posts
November 23 2010 08:36 GMT
#524
Do you think this could maybe affect the GSL happening in an hour and half?
T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-23 08:36:23
November 23 2010 08:36 GMT
#525
On November 23 2010 17:28 CanucksJC wrote:
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On November 23 2010 17:24 T0fuuu wrote:
Im prolly gonna get flamed for this. But if I was North Korea watching an island on the border and saw KR/US soldiers rehearsing an invasion then I would be a bit paranoid as well. That's assuming that this incident wasnt a calculated attack with political motives and it was a response to a perceived invasion.

Anyways I am pretty annoyed at the South Korean leadership. I know that conscription/military service is a part of life in that country and that they are a very proud people but they treat their soldiers like shit. 50 dead in a boating accident, getting shot at in a guard post then 4 dead and houses on fire in artillery attack? In any other country, a sunken warship, 50 dead soldiers and an attack on soil would be enough to resume a war. The response of the south koreans just amazes me. Its like a huge cultural wall for me to even try to understand why they won't fight back. Are soldiers lives really that expendable that you can afford a few dead here and there for "peace".

So what do you suggest they do? Call a war and kill more soldiers?
No.


Well exactly. Its a matter of values. Would you be comforted if you had lost your child to an artillery shell and the best response your leadership could give you was "Do you expect us to go to war to protect the wellbeing of your children? NO."

I didnt say it was wrong. I said it was something I could not empathise with.
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
November 23 2010 08:36 GMT
#526
On November 23 2010 17:35 Boonbag wrote:
Well this sure isn't looking good.

I can't believe they let them bomb SK like this.

Sounds like war this time tbh.

no
Translator:3
xaeiu
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
432 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-23 08:36:50
November 23 2010 08:36 GMT
#527
On November 23 2010 17:35 Raisauce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 17:29 jinorazi wrote:
http://www.livestation.com/products/32?quality=65


Mine ended, anymore links?! Pleaseee!!


http://tv.zeroboy.net/konadora/

this one was already suggested and works pretty good so far
sksyen
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States359 Posts
November 23 2010 08:36 GMT
#528
Markets down 1% in Europe, will likely continue. Risk aversion will come into play until this settles down.
InflowYen.681 || /dance
thundertoss
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1166 Posts
November 23 2010 08:36 GMT
#529
streaming the CNN feed which is now up on


http://www.livestream.com/thundertoss
Underneath David Kims banelings is another control group of banelings.
MadVillain
Profile Joined June 2010
United States402 Posts
November 23 2010 08:36 GMT
#530
As much as I want nothing to come of this, isn't something eventually going to have to happen? I doubt there will be this status quo for ever. I mean eventually something will happen, hopefully the nature of that change will be peaceful. Thoughts?
For The Swarm!
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
November 23 2010 08:36 GMT
#531
On November 23 2010 17:33 Moonling wrote:
Has the U.S made a response yet?

Troops ready in case, otherwise hasn't done much.
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
November 23 2010 08:36 GMT
#532
SK is going to consider submitting the incident to UN review. Dunno if that's been said already, but I didn't see it.
Translator:3
drhojo
Profile Joined September 2010
United States53 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-23 08:37:55
November 23 2010 08:36 GMT
#533
On November 23 2010 17:25 StorkHwaiting wrote:
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On November 23 2010 17:22 drhojo wrote:
On November 23 2010 17:19 StorkHwaiting wrote:
On November 23 2010 17:11 drhojo wrote:
On November 23 2010 17:10 Fenrax wrote:
If China wanted a war, they'd start one. War is the last thing China wants.

they want an excuse so that they can get public support for it.


Sub 100 poster and you're already trying to flame bait and say nonsense propaganda? Seriously just stop talking. This isn't a thread for infantile bullshit geopolitics 101.

your elitism is so much better than my "infantile bullshit geopolitics." I'm just presenting an alternate, plausible view. as someone who is from China and visits it regularly I can say with certainty you can never trust the Chinese government.


You're claiming you know the inner workings and strategic thinking of a world superpower on a topic as intricate and complex as N. Korean relations, and you think I'm being elitist? Cut the shit. Yeah, you're from China, and you don't like the gov't, great. Keep your anti-China sentiments in a thread that has China in the title. Propagandist crap like you're spouting is half the reason conflicts like the one being discussed in this thread happen in the first place. To me, your comments are more insulting and inappropriate than any of the dumb cracks about Starcraft, because they're actually the type that cause the most harm.

To clarify my statement was merely presently an alternative view and not a declaration. The claim that war is the last thing china wants is unfounded. neither of us knows for sure and thus you can't reject my claims anymore than I can reject yours. I'm not trying to stir up drama, but like the news reports have said escalation could result in war and people should be aware of that possibility.
You take nothing to the grave; live your life being brave.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 23 2010 08:37 GMT
#534
On November 23 2010 17:34 Bshad wrote:
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On November 23 2010 17:31 Risen wrote:
On November 23 2010 17:22 Gummy wrote:
On November 23 2010 17:21 Bshad wrote:
So far it looks like the only country that would benefit from this conflict is US.

God Bless America? :\


I'm confused as to how the US benefits from this. (aggregate gain)

Sure we gain the peninsula, but what would we be gaining? A radioactive husk? Do we know? We lose a vast amount of lives (If the first Korean War is any indication) for minimal potential gain. I don't see any benefit at all


China would become more exposed and then its just "They got chemical weapons/not democracy/flavor of the month excuse to invade a coutnry". US dollar will skyrocket.


Are you stuck in the Cold War? China is one of our strongest economic allies. Also, more exposed? If anything NK as a radioactive husk prevents troop movements across the peninsula, protecting China.
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
November 23 2010 08:37 GMT
#535
http://www.livestation.com/channels/3-al_jazeera_english
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
lofung
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong298 Posts
November 23 2010 08:37 GMT
#536
On November 23 2010 17:32 Bosu wrote:
Pretty sure China is going to have to set Kim Jon Il straight and stop this stupid shit they have been doing.

Nobody wants to go with NK. NK citizens either have no clue what is going on outside NK or are too scared, and rightfully so, to do anything. China doesn't want a refugee invasion. US doesn't need another war. SK I am sure doesn't want war either.

There is no fucking way US/China are going to war with each other over this. There wouldn't be a war. I am pretty confident the US would just shoot nukes and china would respond with nukes.

except the nuke thing, i agree to this. both US anc China have incentive to keep north korea on earth, for selling weapons or keeping a barrier from his soil.
How do you counter 13 carriers? Well first of all you gave me brain cancer. -Tasteless
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
November 23 2010 08:37 GMT
#537
On November 23 2010 17:35 Raisauce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 17:29 jinorazi wrote:
http://www.livestation.com/products/32?quality=65


Mine ended, anymore links?! Pleaseee!!

Uh, here's the non-HD link

http://www.livestation.com/channels/3-al_jazeera_english

I'm not sure why he linked the HD free trial.
blackh3d
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia49 Posts
November 23 2010 08:37 GMT
#538
I'm pretty sure it this escalates, the UN will intervene to the best of their abilities.

Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-23 08:40:05
November 23 2010 08:37 GMT
#539
On November 23 2010 17:36 infinitestory wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 17:35 Boonbag wrote:
Well this sure isn't looking good.

I can't believe they let them bomb SK like this.

Sounds like war this time tbh.

no



but then what they gonna do about it ? nothing ?

edit : is it only me to find totally criminal to keep NK in place for China ? I mean, 70 years from now, NK free, I'm pretty sure you'll have a bazillion people blaming China for keeping these sickos in charge for so long.

I mean come on you have fucking goulags all over the place.
Benshin88
Profile Joined September 2010
United States183 Posts
November 23 2010 08:37 GMT
#540
On November 23 2010 17:34 DystopiaX wrote:
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On November 23 2010 17:32 jstar wrote:
On November 23 2010 17:24 SilverskY wrote:
Is this affecting any of the normal, everyday events of Korea? Like is there a day off of work, etc.?


The Korea composite stock index is down 0.79% before closing, but military equipment producer shares such as Victek rose up to a good 5%. The won fell sharply obviously, and USD jumped way up.

won and yen apparently, the economics in the whole region aren't doing so well.


It's mainly because the American economy was doing bad. China was hard hit too but they recovered pretty fast. South Korea and Japan on the other hand were hit hardest by the US economy depression. The economy of both of these countries started to recover within the recent year.
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