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d-shiznit
Profile Joined October 2010
27 Posts
November 23 2010 08:41 GMT
#561
dam hope nothing big will happen and everything turns out ok. koreans killing each other its too just painful. pray for korea please. -.-
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
November 23 2010 08:41 GMT
#562
On November 23 2010 17:38 BadWithNames wrote:
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On November 23 2010 17:37 blackh3d wrote:
I'm pretty sure it this escalates, the UN will intervene to the best of their abilities.



Which will likely include a stern talking to and a copy of said talking to typed out on a piece of paper.


Lol... yeah I was kind of wondering what the UN can really do, and something along these lines came to mind.

As people have already said, I don't know how long SK can keep taking this kind of stuff without repercussions, but hopefully no drastic measures will be needed.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
November 23 2010 08:42 GMT
#563
On November 23 2010 17:38 BadWithNames wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 17:37 blackh3d wrote:
I'm pretty sure it this escalates, the UN will intervene to the best of their abilities.



Which will likely include a stern talking to and a copy of said talking to typed out on a piece of paper.

And perhaps an angry face on North Korea's report card. God the UN is useless.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
November 23 2010 08:42 GMT
#564
On November 23 2010 17:40 kOre wrote:
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On November 23 2010 17:36 infinitestory wrote:
SK is going to consider submitting the incident to UN review. Dunno if that's been said already, but I didn't see it.

I heard on one of the streams (watching BBC, CNN, Al Jazeera, and MBC so I don't remember which) that they weren't going to the UN with this though. Did they change their mind?

http://news.sina.com.cn/w/2010-11-23/162521519996.shtml
the headline reads "the korean foreign ministry, once the incident is concluded, will consider consulting the UN"
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mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4505 Posts
November 23 2010 08:42 GMT
#565
On November 23 2010 17:39 SKTDH wrote:
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On November 23 2010 17:38 mustaju wrote:
On November 23 2010 17:36 SKTDH wrote:
Do you think this could maybe affect the GSL happening in an hour and half?

That's your primary concern right now?
Also, I don't think so.


No it is not my primary concern, I just am worried for potential problems for the safety of the players and everyone in Korea

I shouldn't have lashed out at you. It's just that I am also quite tense at the moment. It most certainly will affect viewer count, I'm sure. I share your concerns.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
November 23 2010 08:42 GMT
#566
BBC and Sky News channels in the UK's coverage of this is paltry in comparison to some of the streams available at the moment.
"The White Woman Speaks in Tongues That Are All Lies" - Incontrol; Member #37 of the Chill Fanclub
Gooey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States944 Posts
November 23 2010 08:42 GMT
#567
On November 23 2010 17:41 CNugent wrote:
The reason that SK did not fight back is very simple. SK has got more to lose. Even if SK win, I wanna remind you that NK has not just nuclear weps, but also biochemical weps and Seoul is in their range.


South Korea has already returned fire.
www.twitch.tv/Thatgooey
drhojo
Profile Joined September 2010
United States53 Posts
November 23 2010 08:42 GMT
#568
On November 23 2010 17:39 VikingKong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 17:36 drhojo wrote:
On November 23 2010 17:25 StorkHwaiting wrote:
On November 23 2010 17:22 drhojo wrote:
On November 23 2010 17:19 StorkHwaiting wrote:
On November 23 2010 17:11 drhojo wrote:
On November 23 2010 17:10 Fenrax wrote:
If China wanted a war, they'd start one. War is the last thing China wants.

they want an excuse so that they can get public support for it.


Sub 100 poster and you're already trying to flame bait and say nonsense propaganda? Seriously just stop talking. This isn't a thread for infantile bullshit geopolitics 101.

your elitism is so much better than my "infantile bullshit geopolitics." I'm just presenting an alternate, plausible view. as someone who is from China and visits it regularly I can say with certainty you can never trust the Chinese government.


You're claiming you know the inner workings and strategic thinking of a world superpower on a topic as intricate and complex as N. Korean relations, and you think I'm being elitist? Cut the shit. Yeah, you're from China, and you don't like the gov't, great. Keep your anti-China sentiments in a thread that has China in the title. Propagandist crap like you're spouting is half the reason conflicts like the one being discussed in this thread happen in the first place. To me, your comments are more insulting and inappropriate than any of the dumb cracks about Starcraft, because they're actually the type that cause the most harm.

To clarify my statement was merely presently an alternative view and not a declaration. The claim that war is the last thing china wants is unfounded. neither of us knows for sure and thus you can't reject my claims anymore than I can reject yours. I'm not trying to stir up drama, but like the news reports have said escalation could result in war and people should be aware of that portability.

Unfounded. Really. And all viewpoints are identical. You can't honestly be this foolish, can you?
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 17:11 drhojo wrote:
they want an excuse so that they can get public support for it.

is a "an alternate view"? and "not a declaration?" So the "escalation could result in war and people should be aware" and "they want an excuse"? What the fuck? That doesn't even make sense.
I didn't say they were identical. I said neither can be rejected. Initiating an attack versus defending a neighbor are viewed completely different politically.
You take nothing to the grave; live your life being brave.
rocketboy77
Profile Joined July 2010
171 Posts
November 23 2010 08:44 GMT
#569
On November 23 2010 17:42 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 17:38 BadWithNames wrote:
On November 23 2010 17:37 blackh3d wrote:
I'm pretty sure it this escalates, the UN will intervene to the best of their abilities.



Which will likely include a stern talking to and a copy of said talking to typed out on a piece of paper.

And perhaps an angry face on North Korea's report card. God the UN is useless.

The UN authorised the Gulf War, you know.
Semiotist
Profile Joined August 2010
United States19 Posts
November 23 2010 08:44 GMT
#570
A terrible incident though I think little will come from it. I don't believe South korea wants another war and I doubt any other countries would want to get involved there is very little benefit compared to the large cost of war. Be it in lives or dollars.
Benshin88
Profile Joined September 2010
United States183 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-23 08:44:39
November 23 2010 08:44 GMT
#571
On November 23 2010 17:41 gostunv wrote:
How long is SK just gonna let NK keep killing their people? All signs point to NK not stopping the random attacks. With the recent revelation of NK's new uranium enrichment plant, I'd say taking action faster while SK side still has leverage would be a better idea than to wait for NK to develop their own nukes.


You understand SK does not want a war against there own race. It's a tragedy if we kill each other. I'm South Korean American btw. South koreans pity North Korea as a country. South Koreans don't hate NK people we hate their leaders. Nobody wants to fight them!!!!
dinmsab
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Malaysia2246 Posts
November 23 2010 08:44 GMT
#572
On November 23 2010 17:42 Gooey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 17:41 CNugent wrote:
The reason that SK did not fight back is very simple. SK has got more to lose. Even if SK win, I wanna remind you that NK has not just nuclear weps, but also biochemical weps and Seoul is in their range.


South Korea has already returned fire.


I believe no news station has mentioned how did SK return fire. If it was nothing serious then things should calm down really soon. I hope.
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Spidinko
Profile Joined May 2010
Slovakia1174 Posts
November 23 2010 08:44 GMT
#573
On November 23 2010 17:41 gostunv wrote:
How long is SK just gonna let NK keep killing their people? All signs point to NK not stopping the random attacks. With the recent revelation of NK's new uranium enrichment plant, I'd say taking action faster while SK side still has leverage would be a better idea than to wait for NK to develop their own nukes.

SK really doesn't want to go into a war with NK. It's actually better for them to lose a ship here and there than to go to war. They preffer to wait it out till NK changes it's policy.
Benshin88
Profile Joined September 2010
United States183 Posts
November 23 2010 08:45 GMT
#574
On November 23 2010 17:44 dinmsab wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 17:42 Gooey wrote:
On November 23 2010 17:41 CNugent wrote:
The reason that SK did not fight back is very simple. SK has got more to lose. Even if SK win, I wanna remind you that NK has not just nuclear weps, but also biochemical weps and Seoul is in their range.


South Korea has already returned fire.


I believe no news station has mentioned how did SK return fire. If it was nothing serious then things should calm down really soon. I hope.



Jets were deployed and Artillery was fired back
VikingKong
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
China509 Posts
November 23 2010 08:45 GMT
#575
On November 23 2010 17:42 drhojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 17:39 VikingKong wrote:
On November 23 2010 17:36 drhojo wrote:
On November 23 2010 17:25 StorkHwaiting wrote:
On November 23 2010 17:22 drhojo wrote:
On November 23 2010 17:19 StorkHwaiting wrote:
On November 23 2010 17:11 drhojo wrote:
On November 23 2010 17:10 Fenrax wrote:
If China wanted a war, they'd start one. War is the last thing China wants.

they want an excuse so that they can get public support for it.


Sub 100 poster and you're already trying to flame bait and say nonsense propaganda? Seriously just stop talking. This isn't a thread for infantile bullshit geopolitics 101.

your elitism is so much better than my "infantile bullshit geopolitics." I'm just presenting an alternate, plausible view. as someone who is from China and visits it regularly I can say with certainty you can never trust the Chinese government.


You're claiming you know the inner workings and strategic thinking of a world superpower on a topic as intricate and complex as N. Korean relations, and you think I'm being elitist? Cut the shit. Yeah, you're from China, and you don't like the gov't, great. Keep your anti-China sentiments in a thread that has China in the title. Propagandist crap like you're spouting is half the reason conflicts like the one being discussed in this thread happen in the first place. To me, your comments are more insulting and inappropriate than any of the dumb cracks about Starcraft, because they're actually the type that cause the most harm.

To clarify my statement was merely presently an alternative view and not a declaration. The claim that war is the last thing china wants is unfounded. neither of us knows for sure and thus you can't reject my claims anymore than I can reject yours. I'm not trying to stir up drama, but like the news reports have said escalation could result in war and people should be aware of that portability.

Unfounded. Really. And all viewpoints are identical. You can't honestly be this foolish, can you?
On November 23 2010 17:11 drhojo wrote:
they want an excuse so that they can get public support for it.

is a "an alternate view"? and "not a declaration?" So the "escalation could result in war and people should be aware" and "they want an excuse"? What the fuck? That doesn't even make sense.
I didn't say they were identical. I said neither can be rejected. Initiating an attack versus defending a neighbor are viewed completely different politically.

No one lives their life thinking about shit that can't be rejected because it can't be proved. You disregard the obvious impossibilities. China DOES NOT WANT WAR IN THIS CONTEXT. There is no way anyone with any amount of understanding of the geopolitics of this situation could think otherwise.
Moonling
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States987 Posts
November 23 2010 08:46 GMT
#576
On November 23 2010 17:44 dinmsab wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 17:42 Gooey wrote:
On November 23 2010 17:41 CNugent wrote:
The reason that SK did not fight back is very simple. SK has got more to lose. Even if SK win, I wanna remind you that NK has not just nuclear weps, but also biochemical weps and Seoul is in their range.


South Korea has already returned fire.


I believe no news station has mentioned how did SK return fire. If it was nothing serious then things should calm down really soon. I hope.


I just read either in wall street journal or CNN that SC scambled jets and returned fire
1% of koreans control 99% of starcraft winnings. #occupykorea.
Benshin88
Profile Joined September 2010
United States183 Posts
November 23 2010 08:46 GMT
#577
On November 23 2010 17:44 Spidinko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 17:41 gostunv wrote:
How long is SK just gonna let NK keep killing their people? All signs point to NK not stopping the random attacks. With the recent revelation of NK's new uranium enrichment plant, I'd say taking action faster while SK side still has leverage would be a better idea than to wait for NK to develop their own nukes.

SK really doesn't want to go into a war with NK. It's actually better for them to lose a ship here and there than to go to war. They preffer to wait it out till NK changes it's policy.


We see these type of events as provocation. Today's event was unprovoked aggression on South korean soil. in the 1980s the relations were low too but South korea provoked NK's responses.
MuuMuuKnight
Profile Joined February 2010
Thailand107 Posts
November 23 2010 08:47 GMT
#578
Has there been cease fire? or is it ongoing? I hope for minimal injuries from this incident.
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66366 Posts
November 23 2010 08:47 GMT
#579
On November 23 2010 17:47 MuuMuuKnight wrote:
Has there been cease fire? or is it ongoing? I hope for minimal injuries from this incident.

no further fire since 3.41pm KST
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blackh3d
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia49 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-23 08:48:47
November 23 2010 08:47 GMT
#580
On November 23 2010 17:42 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 17:38 BadWithNames wrote:
On November 23 2010 17:37 blackh3d wrote:
I'm pretty sure it this escalates, the UN will intervene to the best of their abilities.



Which will likely include a stern talking to and a copy of said talking to typed out on a piece of paper.

And perhaps an angry face on North Korea's report card. God the UN is useless.


QFT.

however, i'm sure the UN will have a say about this turn of events. They need to put up a show that they're trying to do something. Especially since the current Secretary-General hails from South Korea (Ban Ki-moon).

who knows? there may actually be some positive action by the UN this time around!

[edited for spelling]
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