Sexism... Against Men - Page 16

On November 23 2010 14:11 Risen wrote:


It's relevant b/c one of the points made earlier was that if you can change prices based upon sex, then you can change prices based upon race.

Differences in race are skin deep only, differences in gender go all the way to the brain

On November 23 2010 14:34 matjlav wrote:


Why is this relevant? Why does it make discrimination okay?

On November 23 2010 13:04 FuRong wrote:
I finally finished reading the whole thread, and am of the opinion that this kind of discrimination should not be accepted.

What if banks, based on statistical evidence that males more reliably repay their loans than females, decided to offer different interest rates to customers? A guy walks in and gets his loan at 6%, but when a female of the same demographic walks in she is charged 7% instead, simply based on the tendencies of her gender, despite having a better credit record than the aforementioned male. People may complain that this is sexist, but as the bank you can tell them to fuck off because you have statistical evidence to back up your policy so it's legit.

Would this kind of policy fly? I highly doubt it, feminist groups would be up in arms overnight. I don't see how this is any different to the insurance dilemma.

On November 23 2010 14:14 Vanished131 wrote:


Science disagrees with that last statement.

On November 23 2010 14:14 Norway wrote:


Crime Rates

* Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery.
* When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times more likely than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a knife.
* Hispanics commit violent crimes at roughly three times the white rate, and Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the white rate.
* The single best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the percentage of the population that is black and Hispanic.

Interracial Crime

* Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15 percent.
* Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against blacks. Forty-five percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are black, and 10 percent are Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime, only three percent of their victims are black.
* Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.
* Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated hate crimes against whites than vice versa.

Gangs

* Only 10 percent of youth gang members are white.
* Hispanics are 19 times more likely than whites to be members of youth gangs. Blacks are 15 times more likely, and Asians are nine times more likely.

Incarceration

* Between 1980 and 2003 the US incarceration rate more than tripled, from 139 to 482 per 100,000, and the number of prisoners increased from 320,000 to 1.39 million.
* Blacks are seven times more likely to be in prison than whites. Hispanics are three times more likely.

Not that it answers your question directly it does give an idea of some of the rates.
Source(s):
Arrest data: FBI, Crime in the United States, 2001
(USGPO, 2002), p. 252. FBI, Crime in the United States, 2002
(USGPO, 2003), p. 252. FBI, Crime in the United States, 2003
(USGPO, 2004), p. 288

On November 23 2010 14:36 pedduck wrote:
I would agree with OP if he walk in to a restaurant and get charged more than what female would.
However, in some case, we have to respect the different. Black-white, Asian-European, male-female, Mr. A- Mr. B. It is depend on each case.

I believe the insurance company doesn't look at gender particularly or intentionally discriminate male. They just doing what they think it's best interest for their company.

On November 23 2010 14:41 Risen wrote:


It's relevant for the same reason we don't let dogs drive, and if we did they'd have STUPID high insurance costs. Wanna know why? Because they're different.

Edit: And people STILL bring up race. Holy fuck people cmon... there is no mental difference between peoples of different ethnic backgrounds. THERE IS A MENTAL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MALES AND FEMALES

On November 23 2010 14:20 Risen wrote:


Science agrees, you mean.



Should I post statistics about how blacks are overrepresented in poor communities, and therefor much more likely to commit crimes? Should I post statistics of purely white communities in which the poor commit more crimes than the rich? Should I post statistics showing that more blacks are incarcerated for equal crimes than their white counterparts?

Statistics are fun

Edit: I've been reading too many business law books lately, forgive all prior, present, and future uses of therefor (in place of therefore)

On November 23 2010 14:34 matjlav wrote:


Why is this relevant? Why does it make discrimination okay?

On November 23 2010 13:43 matjlav wrote:
Hell, if they charged women more, imagine the outrage. It's a ridiculous double standard and I really think that our society needs to start saying "Discrimination is wrong," rather than "Discrimination is wrong but only when it is against a group of people that we feel bad for discriminating against."

On November 23 2010 14:41 Risen wrote:
It's relevant for the same reason we don't let dogs drive, and if we did they'd have STUPID high insurance costs. Wanna know why? Because they're different.

Edit: And people STILL bring up race. Holy fuck people cmon... there is no mental difference between peoples of different ethnic backgrounds. THERE IS A MENTAL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MALES AND FEMALES

On November 23 2010 14:41 Risen wrote:


It's relevant for the same reason we don't let dogs drive, and if we did they'd have STUPID high insurance costs. Wanna know why? Because they're different.

On November 23 2010 14:41 Risen wrote:
Edit: And people STILL bring up race. Holy fuck people cmon... there is no mental difference between peoples of different ethnic backgrounds. THERE IS A MENTAL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MALES AND FEMALES